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** This is largely due to the dub, which set up the scene so that {{spoiler|Henry's dad was saying that things would get better eventually, and Henry shaking his head at the notion (as if his dad was wrong). By contrast, in the Japanese version, Jenrya's (Henry's) dad is silent and looking down in shame, and then Jenrya shakes his head (as if in forgiveness).}}
* [[Angst What Angst]]: Ryo is pretty cheery, considering that he is forced to whip his Digimon partner to stop him from attacking everything in sight and that because of him he had to travel through the [[Walking the Earth|digital world, without seeing any other human being,]] for at least a ''year''.
* [[Audience -Alienating Premise]]: The fact it takes place in a different universe than Adventure.
* [[Base Breaker]]: ''Jeri.''
* [[Broken Base]]: Fans of ''Adventure'' were not too pleased about ''Tamers'' (or the ''Digimon'' anime franchise as a whole) taking place in a different universe, with the events of ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' being rendered as an in-universe television show in the dub of ''Digimon Tamers''.
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*** So much so that ''Jeri in general'' might just become [[Nightmare Fuel]] for people upon re-watching the series now that they know everything about her. Also her creepy handpuppet might have already been this.
** Growlmon digivolving into the [[Eldritch Abomination]] that is Megidodramon.
** The motherfucking [[Eldritch Abomination|D-Reaper]]. Imagine a monster that combines the most horrifying aspects of [[Cthulhu Mythos|Lovecraftian horror]], [[Neon Genesis Evangelion (Anime)|the Angels]], and [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|the Anti-Spirals]]. Now remove any [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|WellIntentionedExtremism]] or [[Blue and Orange Morality]] and replace it with [[Complete Monster|sheer evil]] - and put it in a [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's for Kids?|kid's show]].
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Impmon/Beelzemon.
* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: The ''first episode'' ends with the "cliffhanger" on if the main character will be annihilated by his own partner. It's not that kind of show. ...''yet''.
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** Beelzemon's actions are indeed treated as a [[Moral Event Horizon]] crossing in the show, to the point where ''Beelzemon himself'' acknowledges that what he did was "beyond forgiveness."
** Also, Yamaki. Creating what's basically a Digimon black hole - the data gained by experimenting on a relatively harmless [[Monster of the Week]] Digimon until she died in agony - that results in many Digimon being dragged screaming to their deaths in one of the series many [[Nightmare Fuel]] and [[Tear Jerker]] moments as even one of the [[Bridge Bunnies]] is covering her ears to block out the screaming... it's hard to like Yamaki after that, but like Beelzemon, he manages to pull himself back even after doing something horrible.
* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]: Zhuqiaomon is directly responsible for all damages caused in the real world,and indirectly caused Leomon's death which caused the D-Reaper's rise,all on a misguided thought that destroying humans would save the Digital World.
* [[Tastes Like Diabetes]]: Suzie Wong/Lee Shiuchon, Henry's kid sister. She actually forces {{spoiler|her eventual partner, Antiramon,}} into a [[Heel Face Turn]] through ''[[Moe|sheer cuteness]]''.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: With the continuity reboot, some fans of the original ''Adventure'' series stopped watching the show because of how different the setting was.
** Which of course led to many of them complaining about things that either was only there during the first couple of episodes or [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|weren't there at all]].
** Some would subvert it because this is the season with [[Furry Fandom|Renamon]].
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** Actually, she is never subservient (as the Yamato Nadeshiko troupe seems to imply) in the series; she just becomes more caring (which is not flaw, or at least I think so) without losing her strong will or confidence (keep in mind that her earlier confidence was entirely unjustified, since she hadn't actually felt in mortal peril as she did in episode 3). Besides, I would like to point out that all of them had been fighting for a while and were completely exhausted (Jenrya/Henry had even run out of ammunition), so giving up her power was really a last resort/desperation attack meant to give as much damage as possible without allowing the Cable Reaper to regenerate. Finally, note that said action, the one that was supposed to prove that woman should let a man handle things was utterly '''ineffective''' so it just served to prove that she had ''gained'' the ability to trust others. However, the above trope is a bit subjective so fundamentally it is up for the viewer to decide.
*** To add on to that its more of a case of [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses]] considering that during the D-Reaper fight Rika actually has the best kill record of D-Reaper agents of any of the Tamers, and she was also the one who was prone to pulling off [[Big Damn Heroes]], as opposed to Ryo whose record isn't even close to hers( the Tamer with the closest record to hers is Henry), and he even had to be saved by an 8 year old no less. Even during the last battle, she was more useful than him, and even when she left the attack up to Ryo it didn't even leave a scratch, so if there was an implication it would be more on Ryo's uselessness during the D-Reaper arc than anything else.
* [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's for Kids?]]: A major factor as to why most children watching it feel pretty alienated by it, especially when you put this show in comparison to ''[[Digimon Adventure]]''.
* [[The Woobie]]: Jeri/Juri...goodness. Even some members of Jeri's Hatedom (Due to her high-pitched voice, Dub ''and'' Sub) wanted to hug her after all the stuff she endures.
** Impmon has a couple Woobieish moments, too, though mainly he's a [[Jerkass Woobie|jerkass one.]]