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* [[HerculesPinocchio (Disney film)/Headscratchers|HerculesPinocchio]]
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* [[Pinocchio (Disney)Fantasia/Headscratchers|PinocchioFantasia]] and Fantasia 2000
* [[FantasiaThe (Disney)Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad/Headscratchers|Fantasia]]The Adventures of Ichabod and FantasiaMr. 2000Toad]]
* [[PocahontasCinderella (Disney film)/Headscratchers|PocahontasCinderella]]
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* [[Alice in Wonderland/Headscratchers|Alice in Wonderland]]
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* [[MulanPeter (Disney)Pan/Headscratchers|MulanPeter Pan]]
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* [[TarzanSleeping (Disney)Beauty/Headscratchers|TarzanSleeping Beauty]]
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* [[101 Dalmatians/Headscratchers|One Hundred and One Dalmatians]]
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* [[DinosaurRobin Hood (DisneyTV series)/Headscratchers|DinosaurRobin Hood]]
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* [[The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (Franchise)/Headscratchers|The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh]]
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* [[The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. ToadRescuers (Disney film)/Headscratchers|The AdventuresRescuers]] ofand IchabodThe andRescuers Mr.Down Toad]]Under
* [[CinderellaThe (Disney)Great Mouse Detective/Headscratchers|CinderellaThe Great Mouse Detective]]
* [[AliceThe inLittle Wonderland (Literature)Mermaid/Headscratchers|AliceThe inLittle WonderlandMermaid]]
* [[PeterBeauty Panand (Literature)The Beast/Headscratchers|PeterBeauty and The PanBeast]]
* [[BoltAladdin (Disney film)/Headscratchers|BoltAladdin]]
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* [[SleepingThe BeautyLion (Literature)King/Headscratchers|SleepingThe BeautyLion King]]
* [[One Hundred and One Dalmatians (Disney)Pocahontas/Headscratchers|One Hundred and One DalmatiansPocahontas]]
* [[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney film)/Headscratchers|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
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* [[TangledHercules (Disney1997 film)/Headscratchers|TangledHercules]]
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* [[RobinTarzan Hood(Disney (TVfilm)/Headscratchers|Robin HoodTarzan]]
* [[The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (Disney)Dinosaur/Headscratchers|The Many Adventures of Winnie the PoohDinosaur]]
* [[The RescuersEmperor's (Disney)New Groove/Headscratchers|The RescuersEmperor's New Groove]] and The Rescuers Down Under
* [[Atlantis: theThe Lost Empire (Disney)/Headscratchers|Atlantis the Lost Empire]]
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* [[LiloandLilo and Stitch (Disney film)/Headscratchers|LiloandLilo and Stitch]]
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* [[TheChicken Great Mouse Detective (Disney)Little/Headscratchers|The Great MouseChicken DetectiveLittle]]
* [[Meet the Robinsons (Disney)/Headscratchers|Meet the Robinsons]]
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* [[The Little Mermaid (Disney)Bolt/Headscratchers|The Little MermaidBolt]]
* [[BeautyThe Princess and Thethe Beast (Literature)Frog/Headscratchers|BeautyThe Princess and The BeastFrog]]
* [[Aladdin (Disney)Tangled/Headscratchers|AladdinTangled]]
* [[TheWinnie Lionthe King (Disney)Pooh/Headscratchers|TheWinnie Lionthe KingPooh]]
* [[Pocahontas (Disney)/Headscratchers|Pocahontas]]
* [[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)/Headscratchers|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]
* [[Hercules (Disney)/Headscratchers|Hercules]]
* [[Mulan (Disney)/Headscratchers|Mulan]]
* [[Tarzan (Disney)/Headscratchers|Tarzan]]
* [[Dinosaur (Disney)/Headscratchers|Dinosaur]]
* [[The Emperors New Groove (Disney)/Headscratchers|The Emperors New Groove]]
* [[Atlantis the Lost Empire (Disney)/Headscratchers|Atlantis the Lost Empire]]
* [[Liloand Stitch (Disney)/Headscratchers|Liloand Stitch]]
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* [[Chicken Little (Disney)/Headscratchers|Chicken Little]]
* [[Meet the Robinsons (Disney)/Headscratchers|Meet the Robinsons]]
* [[Bolt (Disney)/Headscratchers|Bolt]]
* [[The Princess and The Frog (Disney)/Headscratchers|The Princess and The Frog]]
* [[Tangled (Disney)/Headscratchers|Tangled]]
* [[Winnie the Pooh (Franchise)/Headscratchers|Winnie the Pooh]]
 
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*** Rule of Pretty.
*** Its the [[Dwarf Fortress|Dwarven thing to do]].
*** [[The Hobbit (novel)|And elven]].
*** It's not the main gate. The road comes in from another side. And wouldn't you want a fresh source of water if you were under siege?
*** [[Completely Missing the Point|Who would want to lay siege to Disney Castle?]]
*** [[Vile Villain Saccharine Show|Disney villains, most likely]].
* What's with the 1990's movies and parents? Every father in them is either a [[Bumbling Dad]] (Belle's father, the Sultan, Zeus, Fa Zhou, Jane's father), a Jerkass (Triton, Chief Powhatan, Fa Zhou again, Kerchak, and if he counts, Frollo), or a [[Disappeared Dad]] (Aladdin's father, Quazimodo's father, Tarzan's father). Only Hercules' human father and Mufasa don't fit either of them, but Herc's father is irrelevant and Mufasa, the only father with any real positive influence, dies. As for mothers, they are either a [[Missing Mom]] (Ariel's mother, Belle's mother, Aladdin and Jasmine's mothers, Pocahontas' mother, Quazimodo's mother, Tarzan and Jane's mothers) or irrelevent (Sarabi, Fa Li, Herc's human mother, and Hera). The only mother with any positive influence is Kala, and she's the only active positive parent in all ten films.
** The first reason would be that in a lot of the original fairy tales, the parents are either dead or [[Adults Are Useless|unhelpful]]. In "[[Beauty and The Beast]]", "[[The Little Mermaid]]", "[[Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs (Literaturenovel)|Snow White]]", and "Literature/Cinderella", for example, there were no mothers, and the fathers themselves were virtually nonexistent. The second reason, if one wants to probe a little deeper than Disney probably was considering, is that a lot of Disney movies are coming of age, with characters in their late teens. If one looks at the movies from that perspective, then the point would be that the focus of the movie is on the protagonist learning to make a life away from his or her parents. The third reason is that many times, a bumbling or nonexistent parent is a step up from the parent in the source material. Belle's father in the fairy tale agrees to give his daughter to a monster. Belle's father in the movie is helpless to protect her, but still does his best to. Quasimodo's mother in the book really did abandon him because he was too ugly. Quasimodo's mother in the movie died trying to save his life. The final possible reason is the same reason that any story centered around children or teenagers don't have active parents in them. The children and teenagers watching use the story as a sort of fantasy escape, and they want to pretend for a bit that they're tough and on an adventure and don't have their parents along, while identifying with the protagonist.
** Fa Zhou was a [[Bumbling Dad]] and a [[Jerkass]]? Okay, there were times when he snapped at Mulan, but it was only about twice, and those could be more chalked up to his [[Honor Before Reason]] nature than to being a [[Jerkass]]. Chief Powhatan wan only a jerk when he thought his tribe was in danger, and seemed to be willing to reconcile with the settlers after Pocahontas gave her little speech at the end. And Sarabi did at least ''try'' to stand up to Scar, so she's hardly irrelevant. You do kind of have a point about everyone else, though.
* Is it just me, or do all these animated films seem to have its pacing really pick up in the last third of the movie? After the nice pace of so many of the movies, why is it that some of them feel rather rushed towards the end?
** The 90's Disney movies have been criticized for being formulaic; whether they are or not is up for discussion, but what is known is that they are ''always'' divided in three acts; Act I (there is issue yet), Act II (the issue arises and creates a dangerous conflict / the villain steps in and endangers the heroes) and Act III (the hero deals with the villain / the lingering danger in an action sequence). Bonus points if before Act I, there's an introduction that tells the tragic tale of how the story came to be (in [[Beauty and The Beast]], [[Mulan]], [[Hunchback of Notre Dame]], [[Tarzan]]..). So I guess your explanation is that the third acts would ''always'' have to violently deal with the villain/the issue and complete it quickly enough to not drag out, after the nice pacing and story build-up usually seen in Act II.
** As additional proof, the third acts don't usually last long. [[Pocahontas]] for example had it's third act pretty much stretched out over the course of ''[[Mob Song|Savages]]''. Presumably the ones that took the longest are ''Hunchback'' and ''Beauty and the Beast''.
 
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