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Both "Prince Charmings" look very simmilar, except for different hair colors. They're around the same age. They are both named Charming because that is their last name. Snow White married Ferdinand Charming, and Cinderella married Chad Charming.

== [[The Little Mermaid|King Triton]] is actually [[Hercules (Disney1997 film)|Poseidon]]. ==

First off, the similarities between [https://web.archive.org/web/20140602075226/http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/belle-standup.jpg their] [httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20120524182420/http://adisney.com/peliculas/tarzan/img/jane.gif dresses]. Secondly, they both have similar looks. It's very possible that someone from Belle's family married into the (English) Porter family, or moved to England somewhere along the way.

* If we assume Cindy's prince is descended from Aurora and Phillip, it might explain a few coincidental similarities between the stories. Apparently rebelliously wanting to marry for love instead of politics (and wanting grandchildren when you are older) runs in the family. And the similar taste in women. And if we then assume that Cinderella is her prince's Perfect Match and destined soulmate, it opens up a lot of interesting possibilities:

Prince Adam was the much-younger brother of the King in Cinderella (initially just the Crown Prince), of course). Since Adam was not the heir, when he came of age, he got set up with a castle and and some land in a rural part of France. A few years passed, and then Adam got cursed and became The Beast. 21 more years passes, and everyone assumes that Prince Adam is dead. Then Belle comes along and lifts the curse. They soon marry and are so caught up in each other and the Beast's new-found humanity that they don't even think of Adam's family for a while. When they finally let the King know that his brother is actually alive, his son has just married Cinderella. Prince Adam and Princess Belle will be frequent visitors to the palace and Belle and Cinderella will commiserate over being commoners thrust into royalty by marriage.

Evidence:

Both Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella are set in 18th century France. Take a look at the dress styles between the two films. There are a few differences, but a LOT of similarities. The styles in Beauty and the Beast are a little older, but that is explained by Belle living in a "poor, provincial town" where the newest styles would take a ''long'' time to reach and Cinderella lives in Paris, where the latest fashion trends would ''begin''. The styles in the Beast's castle are even older, because they're from 21 years ago, before the curse. If you look at Cinderella's father from the beginning of Cinderella, he's wearing clothes that are very similar to the Beast's ballroom look.

The Beast being a younger son makes sense because otherwise him being cursed would create a national crisis.

== The reason Belle is seen in "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" is because Belle is reading "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." ==

Yes, Belle and Quazimodo both live in France, but at very different times. Quazimodo is living in the late Middle Ages, while Belle is in the 1600s or 1700s. So how did Belle get from the Baroque French countryside to Medieval Paris? Her books. Belle is "really" in her own hometown, in her own time period, reading the classic book "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." Though magic, or her own imagination, Belle is literally "sucked into" the book, and sees herself walking through Medieval Paris.

We first see Prince Philip as a young boy, betrothed to Princess Aurora. Their fathers are Kings. Although unnamed in the film, obviously StephenHubert (Philip's father) is King of EnglandGermany and HubertStephene (Aurora's father) is King of France. Philip and Aurora marry after Philip kills Maleficent and are happy for many years. Unfortunately Philip is ageless and outlives Aurora. Grief-stricken, he moves to his family's old castle in France and becomes a cold-hearted, selfish jerk until the Enchantress (possibly one of the Three Good Faeries) turns him into the Beast to teach him a lesson. There he meets Belle, falls in love, changes back, and lives happily again until she, too, dies of old age. After that, he decides to move to the coast and enjoy the seafaring life. This is where he meets Ariel, who becomes human in order to be with him, and Eric forges an alliance with Triton and the Mer-People (powerful allies, indeed). The Prince then reveals his true identity as King Arthur, reclaims Excalibur (a.k.a. the Sword of Truth used to kill Maleficent) and reigns wisely and justly with Queen Ariel [[Happily Ever After]].

I have always interpreted the Heffalumps and Woozles as horrific [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch Abominations]]s. They terrorize the Disney Animated Canon, possibly taking the form of all of the bizzarre [[Disney Acid Sequence|Disney Acid Sequences]]s. Chernabog is a mere servant of the Heffalumps and Woozles-the one of them that attacks the dimension we know as [[Real Life]].

** It would logically follow that Disney and Co. set up several of these portals for ordinary people to enter -- theenter—the theme parks. Not wanting to give his company secrets away, he made these portals imperfect or looped them every few minutes. To us, we see the new universes fold over their time and again, giving a repetitive ghost image of woman whacking pirates with brooms or a rhino goring adventurers. To them, we appear the same way, as a car of ghosts passing the spot time and again. Because the tampering is imperfect, some areas remain stagnant (such as the Jungle Cruise, relatively unchanged since it started) and others are in a constant state of flux (notably, Haunted Mansion, probably given ectoplasmic interference from that particular universe, and the Carousel of Progress, which uses the flux as its main attraction.). Some rides (such as monorails and trains) have flux capacitors on board, explaining how they can go from 1910 middle America, to 1870 western America and 1990s era cartoon land stations in one trip.

* Alternate continuities have their own separate universe and are not restricted by older continuity. This includes an alternate Junglebook ([[Tale Spin]]), an alternate [[DuckTales (1987)]] ([[Quack Pack]]), an alternate [[Donald Duck]] where Donald doesn't abandon the idea of being a superhero (Paperinik, PKNA, and PK Reboot), a Carl Barks/Don Rosa-only version of Duckburg ignoring everything else, a dimension where each animated movie is left intact with no sequel or TV series (maybe), and a version where every sequel and TV series counts.

* There is a separate universe where the original animated movie never has a [[Crossover]] and never cameos anywhere else, and a universe where the characters do cross over. Taking a character from their home dimension creates a separate timeline where they were removed, leaving the original untouched.

* Live-action movies are part of the multiverse, including ''[[Song of the South]]'', ''Pete's Dragon'', and any other world where an animated character can interact with a live-action character.

* Live-action adaptations such as 101 Dalmatians have their own dimension but are unaware of their animated counterpart.

* It's unknown if these dimensions resemble Earth from being a variation of our Earth, or if our Earth is a variation of one or more of them.

* Also, [[Kim Possible]], the [[Recess]] kids, [[American Dragon: Jake Long|Jake Long]] and [[The Proud Family]] all appeared on the TV series [[Lilo and Stitch]].

*** Also, none of the princes are ever actually identified in the movies as being named "Charming" (unless you count Snow White saying "everyone could see that the prince was charming", but she could've been using the adjective).

Particularly those from [[The Disney Afternoon]] Era. It's a little harder to figure the same in the case of most of the One Saturday Morning Era or Modern Era TV cartoons, due to their different art styles (with the possible exceptions of ''[[Recess]]'' and ''[[The Proud Family]]'' from the One Saturday Morning Era and ''[[Kim Possible]]'' and ''[[American Dragon: Jake Long]]'' from the Modern Era, due to their crossovers with the ''[[Lilo and Stitch]]'' series). But what cements this theory is the mere fact that [[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Captain Hook]] once had a swordfight with [[Tale Spin|Don Karnage]] on ''[[Raw Toonage]]''.

[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6301605/1/Fairytales This] fic. For those of you for whom this is tl;dr, [[media:Fairytales2_4811Fairytales2 4811.jpg|this]] image.

** Really? Cool~ The "artwork" is all based off of what the fic calls them, though... Um, curious, but where did you get that info? (Is genuinely curious).

**** Sleeping Beauty's name is definitely ''not'' Leah. Watch the movie. Her name is Aurora. She also goes by Briar Rose.

***** ''Not'' Sleeping Beauty/Aurora/Briar Rose- her ''mother''. ^_^

* Simba and Nala, for the [https://web.archive.org/web/20140117105220/http://judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/tomoenage.htm Tomoe Nage] which gave Nala her edge when she was pinning Simba, and which Simba used to defeat Scar.

* Woody, for the [https://web.archive.org/web/20130918014543/http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ogoshi.htm O Goshi] which he uses in the [[What Could Have Been|Black Friday Reel]] to throw Buzz out the window.

* I always thought that the Beast not hurting gaston was the latter's pleading-- probablypleading—probably something the Beast did when he was face to face with the Enchantress. He knows the pain of one's pleas falling on deaf ears, so he shows Gaston mercy. We all know how that turned out, though...

...magic. That's why it wouldn't fit anyone else in the kingdom. It magically only fits Cinderella- no matter ''what''.

# Anastasia was not with the baker, nor was she in love with the baker in C3, ergo C2 is false.

* We know that the Baker scene in C2 cannot have happened in C3, because by then Lady Tremaine and Druzella had been punished to live as servants, and would not have had the control over Anastasia's life as they did in C2. Using all of this (and the fact that C3 is a bit better than C2), we can determine that C2 NEVER HAPPENED. (And there was MUCH rejoicing).

== The Junior Woodchucks Guidebook from ''[[DuckTales (1987)]]'' is a proto [[Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy|Hitchhikers Guide]] ==

[[Genre Savvy|The Tradition]] is a force that causes people to live out their lives the way that stories tell them to. Giselle and Edward (and really all other Disney Pricessess) fall in love because of The Tradition. However, when Giselle leaves for the 'real world' The Tradition's hold loosens on her until she is no longer in love with Edward. The lingering after affects however, are what cause Giselle to cause the magic by singing effect. By the end of the movie, The Tradition is trying to get a 'Happily Ever After' from anybody, but Giselle is not complying. As a last resort The Tradition takes its hold on Edward (who has not been in the 'real world' as long as Giselle) and has him put the shoe on Nancy ala Cinderella. She doesn't really 'love' him, not at first, but she's willing to go with him because there is nothing left for her. Once they travel through the portel, however, Nancy and Edward fall in love because Edward put the shoe on Nancy's foot.

Think about it: His body type looks a lot like the Genie's. Assuming the former theory is taken into consideration, a lot of the deals he makes and the powers he grants are in line with what Genie could do. Assuming Disney doesn't want Satan running around their universe, he could be an earlier Genie who conned his way into freedom with significantly less noble intentions than Aladdin's Genie.

In the beginning of Hercules, we saw Zeus seal away the Titans in an underground vault. But Zeus' father, the mad deity, was never mentioned. Zeus sealed the elemental Titans away in a secure place, but for his father, a [[Complete Monster]] if there ever was one, he created an even more secure prison, deep inside the underworld. Since then, Kronos has grown in power by collecting evil souls, evolving into an all-powerful God of evil for Disney - but still trapped within his son's prison.

== lassicalMythology is accurate in the world of ''[[Hercules (Disney1997 film)|Hercules]]''. ==

The Muses are just [[Unreliable Narrator|Unreliable Narrators]]s. And they seem to be in a modern-day museum, so that explains how they picked up R&B gospel and all the current references. They just updated the story because that's what they do -- theydo—they're basically the goddesses of storytelling, right? And they're only five of them because four wouldn't go along with it, so they kicked them out.

* Mickey wants to marry a princess because of the perks of being royalty. True, he's made millions upon millions in merchandising alone; perhaps he became a [[South Park|money-hungry]] jerk over the years who wants a crown to be adorned upon his head. Also, what stopped Jessica from marrying Roger Rabbit (even if only he made her laugh) despite being different species?

What with all the various stories and places and time periods they've been in, it's possible to say that they married each other in each one, but we just never got to see it.

And besides, why would [[Mars Needs Women|a mouse find a human princess attractive anyway]]?

In "Mulan," the ancestors try to send the Great Stone Dragon, the family's most powerful guardian spirit, to retrieve Mulan before she can join the Imperial Army disguised as a man. Only when Mushu goes to wake up the Great Stone Dragon, the damn lazy beast won't wake up and the statue accidentally crumbles. Mulan had spent the night before huddled under the statue, and in the morning had left to join the Army. I am of the opinion that the Great Stone Dragon could not be awakened because he wasn't there; instead, he was invisibly watching over and guiding Mulan on her quest to protect her father.

* The [[Peter Pan and The Pirates|Fox]] version suggests that Peter thinks all grownups are greedy, cheerless, and self-absorbed, so he simply decides not to ever be one. Considering the only adults he's ever met are Capt. Hook and his (deceased) brother Patch, it's little wonder he's so prejudiced.

Queen Leah, if you like. I was thinking how odd it is that she was graced with specific beauty traits her mother already has--Aurorahas—Aurora is the spitting image of her mother, so what was the point of magically make them look alike? But maybe Queen Leah was originally gifted with those same traits, and the fairies magically passed them on.

This was the original plotline for the third movie, before it got canned, but it makes the most sense given what we know of how the Buzz Lightyear toy line acts; every one of them believes themselves to be ''the'' characters they're based on, and have no recollection or notion of being a toy at all. None of the other, functioning toys we've seen in the first two movies are like this, not even the horrific monstrosities of Sid's; obviously, they all started out as "perfect", unflawed toys. It's possible that, if a toy line suffers from a design flaw that forces a recall (like what Buzz's line would've done in the original script), those flaws would affect the toys' perceptions of their world and themselves, warping their self-image and their personality unless the flaw can be corrected (if it ''can'' be corrected).

* Or, all franchise toys start out believing they are that fictional character, but eventually grow out of it. Woody's so old he's forgotten where he came from, and more generic toys don't have much backstory to bother with. Zurg supports this, and the Barbies are acting out the personality they've been given, it just doesn't come up very often because of the suspicious absence of franchise toys in Andy's room.

Following the theory above, Christopher Robin and his toys are all mental projections of several insane individuals, all with many different problems, listed in detail [httphttps://web.archive.org/web/20041209042210/http://stoli990.tripod.com/pooh.html here.]

* This theory is totally awesome. Also, the "Very Tigger Movie," or whatever it's called, has a new frightening implication -- THEREimplication—THERE ARE OTHER TIGGERS OUT THERE.

First ''[[Mickey Mouse Clubhouse]]'', then ''[[My Friends Tigger And Pooh]]'', then ''[[Jake and the Never Land Pirates]]'', and now the upcoming ''[[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|7D]]'' and ''[[Disney Princess|Sofia the First]]''... Sure John Lasseter may have temporarily saved Disney's loved characters by putting an end to the [[Direct to Video]] cheapquels... but at roughly the same time, the Disney execs noticed that little kids were way more interested in ''[[High School Musical]]'' and ''[[Hannah Montana]]'' than their classic characters. So they decided to put [[Mickey Mouse]] in a Playhouse Disney ripoff of ''[[Dora the Explorer]]'' to try and find a new audience for their mascot. It was popular with its intended audience, so they later did the same thing to ''[[Winnie the Pooh]]'' and ''[[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Peter Pan]]''. Undoubtedly, those are going to make a profit too, so they'll keep churning out the kiddie shows and we'll get insipid crap like ''[[The Lion King|Simba's Jungle Adventures]]'', ''[[Hercules (Disney1997 film)|Baby Herkie's Adventures on Mount Olympus]]'',<ref> with an [[Villain Decay|insultingly]] [[Harmless Villain|harmless]] Hades, just like what they did to Captain Hook</ref>, ''[[The Little Mermaid|Ariel's Mermaid School]]'', ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney film)|Daisy the Littlest Wonderland Flower]]'', ''[[The Black Cauldron]] [[Spinoff Babies|Ba]][[Beyond the Impossible|bies]]'', well you get the picture. Prepare to have your childhoods smashed to smithereens. ([[It Got Worse|Oh wait]], they'll probably also add [[Goof Troop|Max Goof]] to ''[[Mickey Mouse Clubhouse]]'' and stuff like that along the way.)

Stuff like [[Marvel]], [[Pixar]] and [[The Muppets]] will probably be spared.<ref> even so, for the latter, they could just air ''[[Muppet Babies]]'' reruns, and that cartoon is considered a classic</ref>. '''''[[Tempting Fate|Or will they?]]'''''