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** Conversely, Splash Mountain is probably much better known by now than ''[[Song of the South]]''.
*** Probably because Disney refuses to acknowledge ''[[Song of the South]]'' exists in America due to [[Unfortunate Implications]].
** Also, people confusing Walt Disney World for Disneyland as Walt Disney's first theme park.
** More people are familiar with Mr. Toad's Wild Ride at this point than the animated version of ''[[The Wind in the Willows]]'' (from ''[[The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad]]'') that the character was taken from.
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: More of an alternate story interpretation, but for ''Pirates of the Caribbean,'' the old man in the bayou is reminiscing about the days of pirates, which is why it goes from the bayou to skeletons to real pirates.
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: *Groan* They're adding [[Disney Princess]] meet-and-greet attractions to Walt Disney World? I swear, we've already had enough of those [[Curse Cut Short|bitc]]-a ''[[Little Mermaid]]'' dark ride? A ''[[Beauty and the Beast]]'' restaurant? *Rousing applause* Best expansion ever!
** Wait, the meet-and-greet attractions will replace [[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White's Scary Adventures]] instead of taking up new buildings? Maybe this expansion will suck after all-Hey, the roller coaster through the Seven Dwarfs' mine looks awesome!
** Changing up ''[[Star Wars]]'' again, including ''Star Tours'' now, is this all [[George Lucas]] does... wait, we'll actually be traveling to planets now? ''Multiple'' plan since the ride changes everytime you're on? ''Darth Vader'' will be part of the ride?! Aw YEAAAAHH!!!
* [[Base Breaker]]: Stitch is an odd example; as a character and star of one of the more popular [[Disney Animated Canon]] efforts, he's generally well liked -- [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|especially in Japan]]. However, the [[Replacement Scrappy]] status of his ride and the fact he's become a [[Sixth Ranger]] to the Fab Five have gotten a rather mixed response.
* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|Complaining About Attractions That Haven't Opened Yet]]: An expansion to Animal Kingdom has been announced, featuring attractions adapted from the polarizing, non-Disney-owned ''[[Avatar (film)|Avatar]]''. Fans do NOT seem pleased.
* [[Crack is Cheaper]]: Beyond the expenses one would normally expect for a theme park/resort vacation, the Disney parks feature a notorious amount of specialized, often collectible merchandise (hence the ''Foxtrot'' joke about [[Souvenir Land]] at the expy Fun-Fun Universe) and "experiences" (i.e., princess makeovers, character dining, behind-the-scenes tours) that cost even more.
* [[Creator's Pet]]: Duffy the Disney Bear. Imagine a character who isn't connected to any of the [[Disney Animated Canon]] and/or [[Pixar]] films. Hey, [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Figment]], [[Phineas and Ferb]], and [[Pirates of the Caribbean|Captain Jack Sparrow]] are well liked, right? Well, the problem is, this character isn't FROM any of the rides, shows, or live-action movies. He exists solely [[Merchandise-Driven|to sell merchandise]], [[Tastes Like Diabetes]], and yet has more presence in the parks than [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Darkhorses]] like [[Tangled|Flynn Rider]], [[DuckTales (1987)|Scrooge McDuck]], and [[Brother Chuck
** This is mostly a result of Duffy being a [[Cash Cow Franchise]] in the Tokyo parks with desperate efforts to re-create the success abroad without realizing the cultural differences.
* [[Dork Age]]: Disneyland had one in the mid-1990s through 2003 when it was run by Paul Pressler, a man who thought people came to the parks for shopping and dining, cutting off a lot of the upkeep budget, closing down classic yet expensive to maintain rides (like the Submarines, Skyway and Motorboats), an ugly [[Real Is Brown|rusty colored]] redo of Tomorrowland and the poor replacement of the Main Street Electrical Parade with Light Magic. This was also the era in which California Adventure opened...
* [[Drinking Game]]: Drinking Around the World at EPCOT. Really. Based on the experiences of others, you ''don't'' want to go clockwise, starting with Mexico's Tequila Cave...
** Dispite what you hear, you ''CAN'' drink in Disney World, just not inside the Magic Kingdom.
* [[Ear Worm]]: Most attractions with some sort of musical theme are like this, ''especially'' It's a Small World.
** It's even worse at Christmas time! They mix in "Jingle Bells" as well!
** "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow/Shining at the end of every day!"
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** How can the Animal Kingdom parade not be mentioned? "So sing it out (and bark and growl and screetch and roar), and dance along!"
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Figment over at EPCOT, the Hitchhiking Ghosts in the Haunted Mansion.
** Peter Pan's flight actually seems to be ''quite'' popular. Guides will tell you that it fills up the quickest next to Space Mountain and Splash Mountain.
** Elec[[Tron|TRONica]] was suppose to be removed at Summer's end AFTER the movie came out but due to popularity it's run was extended to summer of 2012.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: There never was a replacement for Main Street Electrical Parade called Light Magic that involved Celtic remixes of Disney songs and stepdancing characters.
** Nor was there a replacement for Journey into Imagination that removed Dreamfinder, reduced Figment to a cameo and insulted the guests' intelligence right at the beginning of the ride.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: It's near-impossible, if not absolutely so, to find a non-Disney-run "fan" (and the term is used lightly) site that doesn't have [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|a dedicated group of at least a half-dozen people]], if not the entire forum as a whole, devoted entirely to [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|pointing out how dreadfully bad anything at all that Disney changes in the parks must be]], even if it's a change that hasn't even happened yet. Expect at least one person to whine along the lines of "[[Ruined FOREVER|Once again, WDI [Walt Disney Imagineering, the creative force behind the parks] has failed/screwed up/proven they're nothing but]] [[Corrupt Corporate Executive
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: Disney in general is very popular in Japan. Even [[Disney Theme Parks|Tokyo Disneyland]], the first park to open overseas, was done in the style of the American park, compared to the massive changes made to Disneyland Paris a decade later. Disneyland and Walt Disney World in the US ''still'' receive a massive amount of Japanese tourists, who treat the American parks as a sort of "Mecca".
** When [[Dave Barry]] went to Tokyo Disneyland, he was amazed at this. Why would the Japanese feel nostalgic about [[The Gay Nineties]] version of small town America?
* [[Hate Dumb]]: There are people who hate the park for not being "Thrillish" or "Adultlike" enough without realizing how one, many of the customers ''are LITTLE KIDS'' and two, you actually ''CAN'' buy alcohol at several Disney Theme Parks.
* [[I Am Not Shazam]]: Because the Magic Kingdom park at Disney World was the only park there for 11 years, many people did refer to that park itself as Disney World even after the other parks started opening. "We went to Disney World and EPCOT."
** Also a case of [[First Installment Wins]].
* [[The Producer Thinks of Everything|The Imagineers Think of Everything]]: Even the most mundane elements of the resorts adhere to strict themeing. Really, where else on the planet are you going to find miniature golf courses with such elaborate backstories? The one time they really dropped the ball on this, we ended up with California Adventure, and now they're paying the 2 billion dollar price to [[Rescued
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: They're going to add a loop!
** The WDWMagic community has The Ladder, whose presence at any construction site is a good sign for the upcoming attraction or, in it's initial appearance during Mission Space's construction, being the epic ride itself.
** Please stand clear of the doors; [[Gratuitous Spanish|por favor manténganse alejado de las puertas]].
* [[Misaimed Marketing]]: The Character Greetings are a good idea. Meeting the villains? Well, [[Evil Is Cool]], but some villains who many consider to be [[Complete Monster
** At EPCOT, there's currently an exhibition on Japanese mythology influencing [[Anime]]. It includes displays on such popular, [[Shonen|relatively]] kid-friendly series as [[Naruto]], [[Dragon Ball]], [[Mario]], and... [[Mind Screw|Neon]] [[Nightmare Fuel|Genesis]] [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Evangelion]]?!
*** Not only that, but they actually sell Eva merchandise in Mitsukoshi. This Troper actually bought a Robot Damashii toy of ZA BEASTO there, and saw a lot of [[Gundam]], [[Bleach]], and [[Suzumiya Haruhi]] merchandise in addition to the more actually-known-to-kids [[Pokémon]], Sanrio, [[Nintendo]], [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Transformers]] merch they sell there.
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* [[Most Wonderful Sound]]: [[Memetic Mutation|Please stand clear of the doors.]] [[Gratuitous Spanish|Por favor, mantenganse alejado de las puertas.]]
* [[Munchkin]]: There is a certain class of fan that treats a day at the park like a game. Most time on rides and least time in line wins. With the addition of FastPass, the strategy has become even more [[Serious Business]].
* [[Narm Charm]]: A lot of the rides/shows, combined with a healthy dose of [[Nostalgia Filter]].
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** "It's a Small World." Little kids actually tend to like it.
** The Jungle Cruise became this when the animatronics did not age well, and they re-tooled the script to generally mock them.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: At a kids park? [[Disney Theme Parks/Nightmare Fuel|Buddy, you better believe it!!]]
* [[Obvious Beta]]: Some criticisms seem to be merely because of maintenance and construction - "When I last went there; half the park was walled off", "*insert ride here* were closed so everybody swarmed Mullholland Madness/California Screamer/Soarin' over california/Other attraction here", "The halls are too narrow because it's all under construction." This gives the ''feel'' of an [[Obvious Beta]] but really; construction and maintenance has to happen ''sometime''.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: Nigel Channing at EPCOT's Imagination pavilion, who replaced Dreamfinder, a tough act to follow even for [[Monty Python|Eric Idle]].
** And don't get us started on ''[[Lilo and Stitch|Stitch's Great Escape]]'', which replaced the ''ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter''.
** Back in the 1970s, The Walt Disney Story became a Replacement Scrappy when it opened in the building that previously occupied Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln. As a result, Disney decided to replace The Walt Disney Story with a shorter tribute (that bore the same name), followed by Mr. Lincoln's video and speech. (Currently, the attraction begins with mementos and videos from the history of Disneyland, instead of a Walt Disney tribute.)
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* [[The Scrappy]]: The American Adventure is an adventure in name only.
** No, no, no, if you want a Scrappy, look at Hester and Chester's Dino Rama, a spoof of [[Souvenir Land]] - and not a very good one at that.
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* [[Sending Stuff to Save the Show]]: The Pleasure Island Adventure Club. At the moment, fate undetermined.
** Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. [[Downer Ending|It didn't work.]]
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: Some of the attractions, especially the original ones in the California Park seem like boring stuff compared to other theme parks that came after and catered more on the thrill side, rather than immersive side. The park thrives a lot on the [[Nostalgia Filter]] as it isn't uncommon to see parents taking their kids to the parks and talking about how ''they'' went there when they were ''their'' age.
** Several rides actually have a lot more staying power than you would assume - It's no secret that people ''LOVE'' Space Mountain, or Splash Mountain. But you know what ride is ''still'' one of the most popular, even amongst adults? Peter Pan's Flight.
* [[Special Effects Failure]]: Sometimes during shows, the special effects don't work as planned. not to mention sometimes during rides, the special effects don't properly display or fail. Sometimes; if a special effect in the ride doesn't work the cast members don't bother to fix it until closing so a lot of people can see something wrong.
** The Jungle Cruise gets this a ''lot''. Perhaps the most out of the original attractions. Originally; it was meant to pretend to be a jungle cruise, but nowadays everyone just mocks the special effects. Storybook Land does have some of the same plants that were there ''in the 1950s''. (They only grow a quarter of an inch every couple years!) but the idea was to see the plants. Plus it's not like the display of the small sets in said ride really do anything other than look cool. (Which they are!)
** One particular mention. In EPCOT; they replaced "The Living Seas" with a ''[[Finding Nemo]]'' themed attraction, with a couple of the seagulls programmed to move their beaks and shout "MINE" every now and then. One time, it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dnt9f9vFY malfunctioned]. [[Hilarity Ensues]].
** During one showing of [[Finding Nemo]] [[The Musical]], one of the "Bubbles" on the side suddenly shuts off. What shows up next? A [http://a.yfrog.com/img739/3443/4wd3.jpg Blue Screen of Death]
* [[Take That, Scrappy!]]: A quick one is thrown to [[Star Wars|Jar Jar]] [[Alien Scrappy|and Gungans]] in the queue to ''Star Tours''.
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* [[Tastes Like Diabetes]]: Portions of fireworks shows and parades. [[Narm Charm|And we wouldn't have it any other way]].
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*** California Adventure was actually criticised for "not being Disney enough"...not to mention if you think about it; it might be a nice place to put pixar-and-recent-themed attractions given that space is limited in that specific park. (Disney did not actually have a lot of money and was almost broke when they bought the land. This is why a lot of attractions are sponsored by companies such as Dole, Mattel, Brawny, and why the park is practically ''surrounded'' by third-party hotels that have little to no association with Disney; compared to other parks where they were able to build their own resorts.)
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: Disney park fans (especially Disney World fans) have this attitude a lot, though it's sometimes justified. Take Journey Into Imagination's disastrous revamps at EPCOT (and the ride's creators [[Writer Revolt|seem to agree with them]]!)
** Sometimes it even reaches [[Ruined FOREVER]] proportions. Visit any Disneyland message board and find the discussion about the 2009 changes to "it's a small world". You can't miss
*** Another anal example involves the 2009 music for the Disney Electrical Parade. "Oh noes! They're using a different synthesizer! Even though the melody hasn't changed, Disney's greatest parade of all time is now [[Ruined FOREVER]]!"
** Part of the criticism behind some of the changes has to do with the thinly-veiled [[Product Placement]] they've brought to the rides.
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** Knowing the background of Splash Mountain can invoke some of this, considering Brer Rabbit's "lesson" is to stay where you're "born and bred in". Not ringing any bells? Before the Civil War, blacks were... strongly discouraged from moving about. [[Don't Explain the Joke|With violence.]]
* [[Values Dissonance]]: The original ''Carousel of Progress'' attraction, in which an American family rhapsodizes about the ability of electric appliances to ease the woman's burden of housework. Since much of the attraction's script was written in the 1960's, it never occurs to any of them that her burden could have been eased a long time ago if her husband and children had pitched in more.
** Not to mention the "I Love Fossil Fuels!!!" [[Script Wank]] in ''Ellen's Energy Adventure''. At the end of each of the ride's "acts", an announcer would ask everyone to "stay in your seats or we'll have to shut down the whole show!" Which implies that people had been ''walking out of the theater!''
*** And note that this is actually a safety issue, as the "theater seats" are actually enormous ride vehicles that move from one theater to another. Getting up from ones seat (not to mention being eaten by a dinosaur) is a lawsuit waiting to happen. So you're just going to have to sit there and take the wank.
*** This actually used to be worse. In the original version of the ride (before Ellen was added), there was a ''long'' video at the end talking about how great Exxon was and how awesome their lovely oil rigs and tankers were. Three guesses as to [[Funny Aneurysm Moment|why that was removed]] (just one guess if you live in Alaska).
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* [[Visual Effects of Awesome]]: Many rides including the Pepper's ghost effect on ''Tower Of Terror'', the lights inside Space Mountain and Bigfoot on ''Everest'', but ''The Haunted Mansion'' takes the cake.
** The Paris version of Big Thunder Mountain is more heavily themed than the others.
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** Earlier than that, Disney World had "The Enchanted Tiki Room: Under New Management", in which [[Aladdin (Disney film)|Iago]] and [[The Lion King|Zazu]] host a [[Totally Radical]] '90s-targeted [[Retool]] of The Enchanted Tiki Room. It lasted until 2011, when one of the Iago figures became damaged in a fire, leading the Imagineers to make the show ''much'' closer to the original Tiki Room.
** Speaking of the Tiki Room, they mashed up that song with ''[[Dance Sensation|the Macarena]]'' of all things. Not in the attraction itself, thankfully.
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