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** On the other hand, the Overseer is a massive control freak and has a Vault-sized ego. The sheer act of opening the vault doors to leave must have insulted him so much he simply lost his shit.
** Vault 101 is officially listed as one of the "Experiment" Vaults, the experiment being "Control freak Overseer with much more outright power than the other vaults".
** Over in [[Fallout: New Vegas]] everyone sees what the NCR did to the Khans at Bitter-Springs. For those that don't know the Khans start harassing NCR caravans, the NCR then sends a massive army and kills most of them, many were unarmed and trying to run away.
** Both games have examples of horribly disproportionate retribution by the AI. If you so much as take a TIN CAN from their property, some NPCs are prone to react with lethal force. And should you turn off the King's radio...a crime punishable by death by an entire gang.
*** The Khans actually led a Raider worthy campaign of attacking caravans. They didn't harass them, they annihilated them if they resisted and butchered NCR troops that fought back. The resulting Bitter-Springs battle was wiping out an enemy encampment: the massacre of Khan civilians was either a tragic error or a cruel order, but a lot of NCR troops that participated in it regret it. But gunning down opportunistic raiders? Just life in the Mojave.
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** Something similar happened with Nakago from ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]'' {{spoiler|though not only for his mother, but because ''he'' was also raped by his boss}}.
* In ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', according to Javik, games of chance were punishable by death in the Prothean Empire. However, Javik is a confirmed [[Troll]], so take it with a grain of salt.
* {{spoiler|Kristoph Gavin}} in ''[[Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (Visual Novel)|Apollo Justice Ace Attorney]]'' hatches a plan to destroy {{spoiler|Phoenix Wright}}'s life after {{spoiler|Shadi Enigmar, a.k.a. Zak Gramarye}}, a high-profile client, snubs him after a game of cards in favor of the less-famous attorney. His nefarious scheme succeeds for the most part, but his failure to dispose of two vital witnesses (thanks to dumb luck) resulted in him having to keep a paranoiac eye on all the people involved for the next seven years, making this a [[Disproportionate Retribution]] not just for its effects on the intended victim (''Killing'' a client that snubbed you? Seriously?), but also in terms of how much time and effort he spent on it.
** In ''Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney'', there is a [[Values Dissonance]] where the inhabitants of Apollo's country think that it's disproportionate that {{spoiler|cocoon smuggling is a capital offense}} in Borginia. {{spoiler|Given that the cocoons can be used to make a large amount of a deadly poison relatively easily, the punishment may well be fitting, or at least ''less'' disproportionate, in many cases. Certainly not this case, though, where the cocoon is intended to make a cure for a rare and deadly disease.}}
** In the 4th case of ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney'', {{spoiler|Manfred von Karma shoots Gregory Edgeworth and later adopts his son (Miles Edgeworth) to raise him with the complete opposite ideals from what his father had. And to top it off 15 years later frame him for murder and have Edgeworth believe he killed his own father. And this is because Gregory gave Manfred one, and yes just one, penalty in court once and messed up his perfect record...}}
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**** In fact, one of the first time you see Kendl in a cutscene, she's arguing with her other brother who tells her that she "dresses like a God damn hooker"
* In ''Emily Enough'' the eponymous character has all rights to her story stolen in a scheme where she was promised release from the asylum she was held in as bait. {{spoiler|She decapitates the person responsible off-screen during the game's ending. To be fair, they were [[Too Dumb to Live]], as before the game starts, she killed her parents and servants for less.}}
* Arguably, the titular hero from ''[[Max Payne (Video Gameseries)|Max Payne]]'' is guilty of this, though to be fair, he was really only after three people (four, if you include Gognitti), and everyone else just didn't have the sense to ''get out of the way''. {{spoiler|And B.B. was stupid enough to GET IN THE WAY ON PURPOSE.}}
* Karma really is a bitch in the darkside ending of ''[[The Force Unleashed]]''. {{spoiler|Instead of helping Kota, Galen gives into his desire for revenge against Vader and after winning, still tries to help Kota, so really, he's not even evil, he just had a moment of weakness. The result? Palpatine kills everyone except Galen, whom he ''crushes'' with his own ship and then rebuilds into his apprentice, promising to discard him the moment he [[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|outlives his usefulness]].}} Considering how you get away scot free in other morality ''[[Star Wars]]'' games such as ''[[Knights of the Old Republic (Videovideo Gamegame)|Knights of the Old Republic]]'', it does seem like Starkiller is something of the universe's ''[[Butt Monkey]]''.
* In the first disk of ''[[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VII]]'', the rebel group AVALANCHE infiltrates and destroys two Mako Reactors. AVALANCHE consists of Cloud, Barrett, Tifa, Wedge, Biggs, and Jessie. SIX PEOPLE. What does the Shinra Corporation do? Destroy an entire sector of the city. THEY DESTROYED AN ENTIRE SECTOR OF A CITY TO KILL A GROUP WITH SIX PEOPLE.
** And they failed to kill half of the group. Indeed, at least 2 of the 3 were killed by Shin-Ra soldiers before the plate came down (As they tried to prevent Shin-Ra sabotaging the plate support).
*** It's worse than that. Barret had taken over the reigns of AVALANCHE because his hometown was burned down by Shinra... because one of thier reactors there exploded and there was ONE person in the town who had been against the reactor being built, and he WASN'T EVEN HOME AT THE TIME. So if you trace it back far enough and take the total death and destruction totals into account, the Shinra corporation killed several villages worth of people because one man once said that Mako reactors were a bad idea. JEEZ LOUISE!
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** Let's not forget Sephiroth himself. "I was born because of a Shinra experiment? Whelp, time to go on an omnicidal rampage, smash a meteor into the earth, and absorb millions of innocent souls to become a god."
* Whatever you do, do ''not'' steal a slice of cake from [[Kirby]]. He will hunt you down and <s>kill</s> ''devour you''.
* While YMMV some argue "[[Kingdom Hearts II (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts II]]" has this for some of the Nobodies, but with special emphasis on Demyx whose crime was... trying not to fight.
* In ''[[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' games, pigs and chickens tend to overreact to Link hitting them: They suddenly become some sort of rampaging super farm animal and hunt you down. [[Video Game Cruelty Punishment|And inevitably, kill you]].
** If you steal from the shopkeeper in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: LinksLink's Awakening (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Links Awakening]]'', get ready to be hadoken'd to death if you dare re-enter the shop.
*** [[Shoplift and Die|If you steal from Trill's shop]] in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess]]'', he will peck you to death if you come back.
*** [[The Legendof Zelda CDI Games (Video Game)|"You DARE bring LIGHT into my LAIR?!]] [[Memetic Mutation|YOU MUST DIE!"]]
* Mao of ''[[Disgaea 3 Absence of Justice]]'' claims to ''kill'' people who eat their eggs with salt and pepper instead of hot sauce ( {{spoiler|At least until he unknowingly destroys the embodiment of his love of hot sauce}}), and also wants to kill his dad for accidentally breaking his Slaystation Portable, making him lose 40,000,000 hours of gameplay time. {{spoiler|Turns out his dad is already dead as a result of telling someone about his weaknesses shortly after the aforementioned event, that he's ''extremely'' upset by it, and that he's coping with the loss by denying it happened.}}
** There's also Laharl from ''[[Disgaea]]'', he appears in ''[[Disgaea 2 Cursed Memories]]'' {{spoiler|to drag Etna back to the Overlord's Castle,}} and if you beat him in the first battle he BLOWS UP the world.
* ''[[Fable II (Video Game)|Fable II]]'' has assassination missions where the reasons for the assassinations include "He thinks he's so funny", "very overdue library book", "selling chocolates half-eaten", and "random draw for the week."
* Similar to the above example, ''[[Star Wars: Bounty Hunter]]'' has a number of extremely harsh sentences for minor offenses. As the bounty hunter Jango Fett, the player runs through a handful of locations tracking down bounties or sources of information in his overall mission. Mixed in with the enemies and bystanders are minor bounties, wanted dead, alive, or either. Some of them are real scum: murder, arson, kidnapping, political assassination, etc. Some are not: bounties that are wanted dead (including those wanted dead or alive) include a Gamorrean who killed the animal he threw as part of a competition, a Jawa who is begging outside of a shop owner's store, a Gran who painted slang on some transports, and perhaps the best example yet: a death sentence posted by Sebulba on a man for betting against Sebulba in a podrace.
* ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'' kobolds are considered by much of the fanbase to be [[The Woobie|woobies]], because their main reason for living is to wander into your fortress and pilfer a few things. The main response of your dwarves? Rip them in half. The imports/exports screen explains that they offer "petty annoyance" in return for "death". Someone here is getting shafted.
* ''[[Sharin no Kuni (Visual Novel)|Sharin no Kuni]]'': the opening of the game has the main character witness female trainee get shot through the head for ''arriving late to an exam'', and that's just the beginning.
** What's worse is that she really should have known that would happen. Everyone undergoing that training is supposed to have been living with that threat for years. {{spoiler|It's also implied in the endings that the shooter in question is egging Ken on since Special High Class Individuals or whatever is a pretty easily abused system.}}
* ''[[The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind (Video Game)|The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind]]'' and ''[[The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion (Video Game)|Oblivion]]'' both have guards that react to all crimes by impaling or hacking the criminals into the small pieces, regardless of whether you [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|committed senseless mass murder or stole a clay pot barely worth one gold.]]
** What makes this even more aggravating is that if you even ~accidentally~ pick up said clay pot, they will hunt you down.
*** It's even worse since the guards are ridiculously [[Psychic Powers]], any offense committed will have scores of Legion troopers from all over the city, and wilderness [[Traveling At the Speed of Plot|suddenly alerted]] of your wrong doings and chasing you down. Then there's the fact you [[You Will Not Evade Me|can't even evade them,]] they always know [[Big Brother Is Watching|exactly where you are,]] and [[Goddamned Bats|they're everywhere.]]
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** In Morrowind you can get kicked out of a few organisations by simply trying to rest in a wrong bed, sometimes permanently! Especially annoying with Tribunal Temple.
** Also, a book found in ''[[Oblivion]]'' talks about a bard who made a comedic ballad about a certain general. How did the general react? He had the bard mounted on the front of a battering ram being used in a castle attack!
* Ares tricking [[God of War (Video Gameseries)|Kratos]] into killing his family sort of snowballs into most of the gods being brutally murdered and [[Inferred Holocaust|essentially plunging the entire planet into an uninhabitable wasteland]].
** Really, Ares' dickery only snowballs into a brutal battle that probably levels half of Athens, which was going to be destroyed anyway. Zeus killing Kratos results in the rest (which is still [[Disproportionate Retribution]], mind you).
* ''[[Tower Madness]]'': [[The Greys]] [[Excuse Plot|are trying to abduct your sheep so they can make a new scarf for their emperor]]. Your response? [[Shock and Awe|Zapping them]], [[Kill It Withwith Fire|frying them]], [[Stuff Blowing Up|blowing them up]], and even '''''[[Nuke'Em|nuking]]''''' them, including the emperor himself! All because they wanted some wool without paying for it, but still...
* ''[[Saints Row|Saint's Row 2]]'''s Brotherhood missions, full stop. Worse, it's pure tit-for-tat [[Disproportionate Retribution]]. From peace talks where Maero, the Brotherhood leader, offers [[Fan Nickname|Boss]] a 20/80 split out of respect for his accomplishments (as well as a realistic appraisal of the situation in light of Boss' fall from grace,) Boss basically spits in his face and declares war over the implied insult. Boss opens by injecting Maero's tattoo ink with radioactive waste, Maero escalates by dragging Boss' second-in-command to death behind his gang's trucks, Boss then ruins Maero's rocker friend's career by burning his hand with a pyrotechnics display ''and'' locking Maero's girl in the trunk of her own car, then putting it last in a line of cars Maero would later crush with his monster truck. He even stays to gloat, tossing Maero the keys to the car just as the ganglord recognizes it. And all of this only comprises about half of the Brotherhood missions.
* ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics a 2]]'' has a mission involving this. The Lang Bros. (back when they were with the Arbiters of Death) were enjoying drinks at a bar when something causes the drink to spill. One of the brothers ganked the guy responsible, and when others came to restrain them, they subsequently got slashed. Then the Arbiters of Death themselves got involved, and were shanked for their efforts. All of this gone over in detail to Clan Gully. There's [[Serious Business]] and then there's ''this''.
{{quote| '''Luso''': You knifed nearly thirty guys over a spilled drink?! You're a threat to society!}}
* In ''[[Jet Set Radio (Video Game)|Jet Set Radio Future]]'', the response for some errant graffiti is initially little more than police shakedown. Just a few levels later, though, the police {{spoiler|start sending tanks, mecha and later a private trenchcoat-wearing assassination force. When that doesn't work either, they decide they're going to burn an entire section of the city to the ground just to draw you out.}}
** In between chapters, DJ Professor K tells a story of how Captain Hayashi freaked out and trashed a patrol car. And why, you may ask? Because he sent another officer to get his favorite mint candy, and came back with coffee flavored instead.
* [[Paper Mario (Video Gamefranchise)|There once was a man named Count Bleck]]. When he was young, his father had his fiancé assassinated. So he decided to use a forbidden book to destroy all of existence. The end.
* If you shoplift in a [[Sierra]] game, [[Shoplift and Die|the shopkeeper will kill you]].
* In ''[[The Adventures of Sam and& Max: Freelance Police (Video Game)|Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse]]'', {{spoiler|Max's superego, AKA the narrator, wants to destroy New York City just because he was ignored by Max.}}
** They also torture Leonard and then keep him tied up in their cupboard feeding him only spiders for ''two seasons'' for stealing a sandwich.
** From the comics:
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'''Sam''': ''(To Max)'' "McGruff"? Did you hear what he just called me? I hate that! Let's sneak into his room at night and drain all the fluids out of his body. }}
* In ''[[Chu Lip]]'', if you get three crime stamps (for smoking, [[Naked People Are Funny|being seen naked]], and [[All Crimes Are Equal|theft]]), you get chained to a wall [[Crucified Hero Shot|crucifix-style]], in a locked cell buried beneath the Graveyard, with ''people treating it as if you've died''.
* In ''[[Monkey Island 2: Le ChucksLeChuck's Revenge (Video Game)|Monkey Island 2 Le Chucks Revenge]]'', the game (nearly) ends with Guybrush maiming LeChuck and pulling his mask off Scooby-Doo style to reveal...'''his brother, Chucky!''' You can ask him one of two questions regarding his motivation for hunting and torturing you relentlessly across two games. One of the questions garners the response that when you were both children, you stepped on and broke his favorite toy.
* One of the major quests in ''[[Dragon Age|Dragon Age: Origins]]'' involves an ancient curse that a vengeful elven leader inflicted on humans. After his son was tortured and murdered by humans and his daughter raped (and subsequently committed suicide), Zathrian was understandably enraged and sought justice. He {{spoiler|bound the spirit of the Brecilian forest to a wolf}}, creating a savage creature that attacked and infected the responsible humans with lycanthropy. However, the curse lasted indefinitely and spread to many innocent humans, and even the original criminals [[Your Mileage May Vary|probably]] didn't deserve two hundred years of unbearable suffering.
** In [[Dragon Age II|the sequel]] it is played a little more straight in the end game after {{spoiler|Anders blows up the chantry}}, and in response to a ''single'' mage who wasn't even part of the local circle's actions, Meredith orders {{spoiler|the Rite of Annulment: the death of every mage in Kirkwall.}} [[Lampshade Hanging|Sebastian even asks why it's necessary when the real criminal is right there.]]
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* In ''[[Liberal Crime Squad]]'', when death penalty laws goes Arch-Conservative, [[All Crimes Are Equal|any crime is punished by death penalty]]. Murder. Arson. Kidnapping. Assault. Vandalism. Disturbing the peace. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Loitering]]. And if you add Arch-Conservative police regulations law, the death penalty is no longer applied, because the Death Squads will execute any criminal caught on the spot. Without trial.
* ''[[Eagle Eye Mysteries|Eagle Eye Mysteries: The Original]]'', Book 2, "Case of the Crazy Compass": {{spoiler|Dave Grant}} slips a magnet into Alex Hane's backpack right before Alex is scheduled to go into the woods with his exploring club. Said magnet is so powerful that it disrupts Alex's compass badly enough to get him lost in the woods for hours, in the process ruining his chance to get a good grade for his explorer club and also ([[Fridge Horror|in hindsight]]) exposing him to the inherent dangers that come with being lost in the woods--and {{spoiler|Dave}} [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|did that]] [[Moral Event Horizon|with full knowledge]] that Alex would be going into the woods. And his reason for all this? {{spoiler|Alex's science project came in first place ahead of his own}}.
* In ''[[Homeworld (Video Game)|Homeworld]]'', the protagonist race builds a mothership, takes it on a test drive, and comes home to find their planet incinerated and 300,000,000 people dead. Why? They violated a 4000 year old ban on interstellar travel, which they weren't even aware of.
** [[The HitchhikersHitchhiker's Guide to Thethe Galaxy|I'm sorry, but if they can't be bothered to take an interest in local affairs... I don't know, apathetic bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all.]]
* In a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOmipBFS64 special movie] for ''[[Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops]] Plus'', a Yellow Genome Soldier ends up winning a race despite the fact that not only was the race meant for GA-[[K Os]] and not humans, but he was supposed to act as a referee/race starter. Campbell and Raiden, under Old Snake's command, then repaid him by shooting two RPG-7s at him while he was savoring the victory.
* [[Angry Birds]] forces this trope into being, but that's somewhat the point, since the pigs stole the birds' eggs.
** Even more so in the animations, where when a mosquito touches one of the eggs, the red bird crushes it to death. Repeatedly. In an additional animation, a butterfly simply ''brushes'' an egg...and gets crushed to death.
* Remember {{spoiler|Future Luke, a.k.a Clive}}, the adorable kid from ''[[Professor Layton and The Unwound Future (Video Game)|Professor Layton and Thethe Unwound Future]]''? Yes, I'm talking about the one {{spoiler|who created a gigantic underground futuristic version of London, built a giant robot, put up a great farce, and tried to blow up the real London only because his parents died in an unfortunate accident. He attempts to justify it by saying that it's teaching the government not to callously disregard ordinary people (since Bill Hawks managed to not only avoid responsibility for his failed time travel, but reached high office).}}
* In ''[[Sonic Generations (Video Game)|Sonic Generations]]'', Time Eater absolutely hates Sonic and wants to kill him. To do this, it sets out to destroy time from 1991 to the present, leaving this 20-year stretch as a sterile void.
* In one of the scenarios in ''Wargame: European Escalation'', an East German Border Guard defects to West Germany. He kills two of his fellow border guards in the escape. East Germany wants him back. West Germany says no. [[World War III|Enter World War 3, stage East]].
* In [[Brass Restoration]], an employee of a book store Ryo enters in Kouri's route points a gun at his head and attempts to kill him for not buying anything and for talking.