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* If the human race doesn't start exploring the rest of the galaxy (never mind living there) until the time of Adelaide's granddaughter then how in the world could humanity have built the space Titanic and had it almost crash in 2008? I don't think we hear anything about it being a time-travelling ship. Did humanity happen to coincidentally evolve on two different planets far away from each other and one of them discovered the rest of the universe before the second one?
** Humans didn't build any such thing. It was built by a race of [[Human Aliens]], and hardly the only ones; most are from the classic series, granted, but the Time Lords blend into human society just fine, noting that humans look Time Lord rather than the other way around. I think it's stated (in the [[Expanded Universe]]) that the Time Lords caused the humanoid template to spread across many sentient races. The Titanic's passengers hail from the planet Sto, and lived far away enough that most didn't know anything about the Earth.
*** Human aliens and indeed most aliens in the Doctor Who setting are derived in some form or fashion from humans. Including Gallifreyans. Now, remember what Gallifreyans are good at, and realize that at some point humans developed technology that explains this question.
 
* So the hosts are loyal to Max Capricorn, but once Capricorn is dead they switch their allegiance to...the Doctor? Why? He makes some reference about being the "highest authority" sans Max, but it's not really explained. If anything, Alonzo should be in charge now, because he's actually a crewman.
** Alonzo's not actually there, though.
 
 
== Partners in Crime ==
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** According to a later episode, Miss Foster DID go to America {{spoiler|after the Doctor died, in an alternative timeline}}. That's likely because {{spoiler|London was a radioactive wasteland due to the Titanic crashing onto it}}.
** Maybe London's the only place that has decent info available to the cosmos, considering how everyone else and their dog has tried to invade it at some point or another. Or maybe it was just a testing ground- First get off a smaller area, then go on to America for mass baby production.
* Something always bothered me about this episode - is Miss Foster meant to be a villain? Because, really, all she wants is to convert babies from fat. Humans don't want fat; The Adipose want babies, so win-win. In fact all the bad events of the episode are the fault of the Doctor- if he and Donna hadn't stuck their noses in, Miss Foster wouldn't have had to use full conversion, and left after getting enough babies from the 1kg1 kg-a-week plan. The first death is actually caused by ''Donna'' fiddling with someone's pendant, and Miss Foster was killed because the Adipose got scared because they knew The Doctor found out about it; again, if they'd kept out of it, humanity would be fitter, and the Adipose get their babies, everybody wins.
** The very fact that she decided to use full conversion in the first place rather than, say, abort the current plan in favour of one less lethal to the native population of the planet she was on, suggests that Miss Foster is at the very least a raging sociopath.
* Why throw away a perfectly good sonic pen?
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* The first is acknowledged to be a problem and part of why the Ood evolved to be so peaceful and trusting; they can't afford to risk it. As for the second, psychic-ness doesn't need to match up with science.
 
 
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== The Doctor's Daughter ==
* Why the Hell did Martha leave at the end?
** She never wanted to go with the Doctor in the first place -- theplace—the TARDIS door locked before she could exit it.
** She's got a career, a family to be part of, and she knows traveling with the Doctor isn't healthy for her, no matter how much fun it can be.
** On top of that, she's also got a soon-to-be husband now, and is no longer in love with the Doctor as she was before.
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* In "Silence in the Library" the Doctor makes this huge deal about most creatures being afraid of the dark and it's supposed to be all ominous sounding and what not. But don't most animals thrive in the dark (predators, many insects, badgers, &c.)? It would seem unlikely then that in all of the cosmos such a vast majority were afraid of the dark, would it not?
** Presumably, for nocturnal species, the fear is more about the unknown things in the dark, rather than the darkness itself.
** The Doctor was just wrong about it. He is on occasion, you know. He took the Human/Gallifreyan fear of the dark and extrapolated from there to all life in the universe-- auniverse—a logical fallacy that many people fall into in [[Real Life]] too.
*** I'd considered that myself at the time. It just seems rather odd that an incorrect theory had a whole two-parter episode dedicated to justifying it (generally, if Doctor's wrong, he gets proven wrong).
**** I don't think that episode was so much about whether the Doctor was right or wrong, as it was about how incredibly broken he was. Also, establishing River Song.
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**** Considering that two parter was written by Stephen Moffat, who will be taking over the show when the next doctor is adventuring, I would have thought it'd be picked up at some point on-screen. I wouldn't have thought he would bother having River Song be such an important character if she'd never show up again. She's clearly more than a bog standard companion, since she knows his name, so we more or less have to see her again.
**** Maybe she just took a guess? I mean, she and her crew enter in spacesuits to find a man in trench coat and blue suit, and a strange woman just standing there, when there was no way for them to be there at all. She expected the Doctor to be there to help and probably just assumed it was him. Up until she realized it was a very early version of the Doctor, she likely just assumed it was a new regeneration. Hell, considering how well she seemed to know him, it's possible that he showed her a way to recognize him even in a new (or as the case was old) regeneration.
** Explained in "The Time of Angels" -- it—it's revealed that the Doctor will at some point provide River Song with a 'spotter's guide' of what he used to look like in order to enable her to recognise him in his different incarnations. Presumably he either didn't mention or she forgot which one he was wearing the first time they met.
*** That explains things a little, but it still doesn't explain why she didn't realize that the version of the Doctor she was talking to wouldn't recognize her, especially if the Doctor she met had shown him what his past selves looked like, but then again, maybe he had reasons not to mention it considering what he knew about her ultimate fate.
*** [[Anachronic Order]] people.
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** In line with the above, perhaps psychic paper doesn't work if the targets are sufficiently panicked?
 
* The episode. What was the point of it? To show that [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters]]? I mean, an alien creature makes someone repeat the same thing everyone else is saying and the humans are "KILL IT! KILL!!!" Why does the Doctor even bother sometimes?
** The point of ''Midnight'' (besides what [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|you mentioned]]) was to scare the pants off of us, something Who has specialised in since almost the beginning. I don't see why it needs to be anything more than that. Entire shows have existed based on far less substantial intent. You could also ask what the point was of a LOT of who episodes, and the answer would probably be along the lines of "entertainment."
** On the [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters]] front, remember that the driver and mechanic both ''died'' before anybody really freaked out. Freaking out is a pretty reasonable response to death (especially when you might die next), so the human's weren't really being bastards at all.
** I believe it said in the commentary that the point of the episode was to strip the Doctor of all his speical abilites and leave him utterly powerless.
 
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*** Perhaps, but the scene with the tank shooting down the Racnoss ship was shown in the divergent universe, and no mention is made of Mr. Saxon - unlike in the original universe.
*** No; as the original post points out, the events of "Utopia" never took place in the "Turn Left" alternate universe; the Doctor never met Professor Yana at the end of the universe, so he never became the Master and never returned to 21st Century Britain. The Paradox Machine prevents the Toclafane from disappearing when wiping out their own ancestors; it doesn't protect the Master.
** The only weird thing about all this is that Harold Saxon is established throughout season three, before the Doctor has made him happen, similar to the joke about wondering how he made an enemy of Elizabeth I and things like that -- sothat—so that when the Doctor is dead in the alternate timeline, the fact that "Utopia" et al didn't happen is represented by not having those pre-"Utopia" Saxon references. Either the Doctor can encounter things he'll cause before he's caused them -- seeminglythem—seemingly meaning that in those cases at least, he actually has no choice about whether he will eventually cause them -- orthem—or history doesn't change until he makes it change -- whichchange—which is pretty much the assumption most of the time, including in an episode that revolves around the question of what would have happened if he hadn't been around to change our history after a certain point. Having it both ways -- withways—with the odd [[Stable Time Loop]] -- doesn—doesn't make sense. (I know: wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, [[Rule of Cool]].)
** And unless I'm mistaken, didn't Luke Rattigan live in ''London''? OK, so the Sontarans could have found someone else to design something similar to ATMOS, but wouldn't it be called something different?
** Could you clarify this a bit? ATMOS stands for "Atmospheric Omissions System". Why would it have made a difference where the creator came from?
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** That might be it. Also, he was born that way, not modified.
** Also, we kind of know that if a Time Lord chooses to regenerate into a half-human form, it's not the end of the world. Jamming all that knowledge / power into a pre-existing human brain had consequences, however.
** CloneTen also might not have the entirety of Ten's Time Lord knowledge. He might have Ten's memories and personality, say, and be incredibly brilliant, but not have that innate understanding of time and space burning up his brain.
 
* In the series four finale, how is it that {{spoiler|the reality bomb hits Rose's universe first, then Donna's alternate universe despite being detonated in the Doctor's universe}}? Shouldn't it {{spoiler|hit the Doctor's universe first, or at least all of them at once?}}
** For that matter, if the universes are constantly splitting, in a parallel universe the bomb would have gone off, no matter what.
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* Why was the Doctor so worried about there being another Doctor who had committed genocide in ''Journey's End''? Let us remember that the genuine Doctor once thought he ''should'' have exterminated the Daleks when he had the chance (the Fifth Doctor in ''Resurrection of the Daleks'') and has actually exterminated the entire Dalek race on two different occasions (indirectly in "The Evil of the Daleks" and the Seventh Doctor did so directly in ''Remembrance of the Daleks'', and the Ninth Doctor alludes to having done it in ''Dalek''). It seems a little hypocritical of him to get annoyed at a clone of his doing it.
** I think that's exactly why he exiles the clone. He knows that's an aspect of his character -- hecharacter—he came close twice in the first series, before Rose's rebuke and the Dalek Emperor's taunting made him realize what he was doing -- anddoing—and is deeply ashamed of it. If you take it a bit symbolically, you could say he's trying to exile or excise that element of himself, or perhaps distance himself from the act, since while it was the human Doctor who technically did it, in any practical sense, it was The Doctor who exterminated the Daleks. (Also, while pointing out that Nine alludes to committing genocide in ''Dalek'', it's worth noting that Ten compares the human Doctor to Nine during that final scene, which I think furthers that idea.)
** People can change. The Doctor feels ashamed of some of his past actions. He has certainly moved on from "Dalek". In "Genesis of the Daleks" {{spoiler|the Doctor explicitly chose not to destroy the entire Dalek race (or try to anyway) before they got going.}}
*** Actually, he was saved from having to make that choice at the last moment.
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* Why are {{spoiler|the Daleks and their plan all connected to that one computer? And why keep it down there with Davros and Dalek Caan, the crazy cousins they've locked in the basement? And why do they let him keep prisoners down there?}}
** {{spoiler|Davros}} is too cunning to be caged. He'll have schemed his way to a control terminal with which he could hack into the {{spoiler|Dalek computers, a terminal he probably managed to hide from them. Donna}} simply took it over, using it in ways he never expected.
*** Or, it's a Dalek version of [[Everything Is Online]], coupled with use by a trio of [[Magical Hacker|Magical Hackers]]s.
*** I think the whole Vault is a sort of prison cell for {{spoiler|Davros and Dalek Caan.}} If you phrase it as letting {{spoiler|Davros}} keep prisoners, that keeps him happy at no real cost to you so he doesn't try to escape or hack the computers. Or it's part of a plan to make the {{spoiler|Supreme Dalek}} head honcho without {{spoiler|Davros}} noticing.
*** In keeping withthe Daleks = Nazis symbolism, it's just that they're crazy, arrogant, and utterly convinced that since it's their "destiny" to win, nothing they do can make them lose.
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* Sure the Daleks ''could'' take the Lost Moon of Poosh, Pyrovillia, and the Adipose Breeding Planet out of time and have them disappear before the other planets they took did but why would they? What is the point in taking three planets at different points in history and then taking the other twenty-four all at once?
** Presumably because something was scheduled to happen to those worlds anyway before the Dalek plan went into effect -- Losteffect—Lost Moon of Poosh, for example, implies that it went bye-bye for some reason, and for all we know Pyrovillia and the Breeding Planet could have been destroyed centuries before the Dalek plan occurred anyway) and they needed them. The others, however, were more or less around anyway, so why not just get them all at once?
** [[Stable Time Loop]] my friend. The planets vanished because of the Daleks. So the Daleks went back and stole the planets from the last moment they were seen.
*** But there was no reason for those planets to have been taken earlier in the first place.
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