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=== Fall of the Eleventh will take place somewhere in the Medusa Cascade ===
* In Fires of Pompeii, Evelina claims the Doctor's name is "Hidden in the cascades of Medusa herself". This is where Trenzelore is located. Speaking of, unless my memory is faulty, the Question is slated to have been written in the stars. A quaint shout out to Five, if you ask me. When his episodes open, just look at how then show's title appears- written with and in stars.
 
== The Dead(th) Doctor ==
=== Real!Doctor wasn't actually sure the Teselecta!Doctor plan could work. It wasn't an example of The Doctor coming up with a perfect answer to his problem, but an example of The Doctor performing one final, desperate gambit. ===
The key is that The Doctor doesn't actually know ''why'' his death is a fixed point in time. All he knows is that the Silence went out of their way to force it to become one. Now, the reason a fixed point in time is immutable is because so many other events are so casually tied to the fixed!event that attempting to changed the fixed!event causes so many other things to change that the universe gives up in frustration. The fixed!event is the load-bearing block of a universal jenga puzzle. So why is The Doctor's death fixed in stone (and how would that affect his gambit?)
 
1) ''The future of the universe must unfold in a way that requires The Doctor to have absolutely no more influence on it whatsoever.''
If this were true, then the plan using Teselecta!Doctor simply wouldn't work. Teselecta!Doctor touching Married!River would not set time straight again, and Real!Doctor would've eventually had to shrug his shoulders, climb out of the Teselecta, and set things straight himself.
 
2) ''The future of the universe unfolds in a way that's dependent on the news of The Doctor's "real" death.''
Hence, it's not The Doctor's actions that create the fixed point, but actions of other people that create the fixed point. So it doesn't matter if The Doctor lives or dies, just that other people act as if that he did. That's why the Teselecta!Doctor plan worked.
 
3) ''The universe hates people that try to mess with it.''
The Doctor's death didn't start out as a fixed point in time, but the Silence had made it so. The universe remembered the original version of events, decided to flip off the Silence for telling it what to do, and sided with the Time Lord Victorious just this once.
 
 
=== The astronaut is Old!Amy ===
Somehow Old!Amy doesn't die in ''The Girl Who Waited'' but gets rescued (by the Silence?) and is ''really'' angry with the Doctor for lying to her about sustaining the paradox (of both Amys surviving), in order to get her to help Rory save Young!Amy.
* Jossed.
 
=== The astronaut is not River Song ===
In The Impossible Astronaunt, River seems just as surprised as everyone else is that the Doctor is dead, and when he returns, she doesn't see it coming at all, even though she supposedly was the one who killed him. Also consider the fact that she seemed pretty clueless as to who the little girl was, and we can deduce that River has completely forgotten being the little girl, or is not the little girl. We never saw the little girl regenerate into Mels, we only saw the beginning of her regeneration. I think Moffat's messing with us.
* Why didn't Mels kill the Doctor in the cornfield? "''We'd only just met.''" Mels had never met the Doctor before this, but the Doctor seemed to know who the astronaut was. If it was River, surely she would remember seeing and killing the Doctor when she was younger.
* Jossed.
 
=== The astronaut/child is Jenny ===
When Mels/Melody meets the Doctor in the beginning of "Let's Kill Hitler!", she seems like she has never met him before. The young girl in "The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon" did at least get a glimpse of the Doctor, and spoke on the phone with him. Even if it was River, and, at the time, she was too young to know it was the Doctor, you would think she would have "studied" the Doctor enough to at least retroactively realize who it was.
 
I don't think it was ever explicitly mentioned that the astronaut/child was River, but it was made pretty clear she was Timelord. If I remember correctly, at the end of "The Doctor's Daughter" Jenny is shown to start regenerating. Honestly, I'm surprised Jenny hasn't at least been mentioned here.
* Jossed.
 
=== The Vashta Narada killed the Doctor ===
A space suit and River Song, and living in the Library they'd be able to figure out time travel and how to kill the Doctor.
* Jossed.
 
=== The Doctor who died in The Impossible Astronaut is the Ganger version. ===
 
He really is the doctor, and yes he is dead. However, he's the Ganger Doctor and not the original Doctor. This might be the [[Occam's Razor|simplest answer]] as opposed to one involving multiple time lines or time travel or something.
** Alternatively, the Doctor who died in the Impossible Astronaut was the 'original' Doctor, but since there's no fundamental difference between the Ganger and the Original, [[Just for Pun|Doctor Two]] can take his place, allowing the show to continue.
*** There is a fundamental difference-Ganger Doctor will have a 200-year difference with the Doctor who dies.
** Jossed. It's actually the Doctor operating a Teselecta of himself.
 
=== The Doctor who died in The Impossible Astronaut is not the Ganger version. ===
Because that would be too easy. It was the real Doctor. The original Doctor. The Ganger will replace him. Has anyone else noticed The Doctor's recent habit of being cloned, by the way? First Jenny, then 10.5, now Odo - I mean - the Ganger?
* Ganger!Doctor is simply a [[Red Herring]]. By the previews for ''The Almost People'', he seems to be at the very least psychotically unhinged and most likely will die in the same episode. The 'theory' that the future Doctor is his clone will probably be brought up between Amy and Rory to make the audience think it may be possible, but then he'll end up being killed. Also, Ganger!Doctor wouldn't probably be able to regenerate, whereas Future!Doctor seemed to be starting to before being killed.
** Why would the Ganger!Doctor be unable to regenerate? The Gangers are exact duplicates of the original people, down to the very last detail. If the Gangers are identical to their originals, then there should be no physiological differences between them (excepting the cellular/DNA/whatever destabilisation). The Ganger!Doctor should therefore be able to regenerate to some degree. Due to the destabilisation the Gangers suffer, perhaps the process cannot be completed, but there does not seem to be a reason he couldn't at least /begin/ to regenerate (Ten pulled that trick off in Journey's End, remember?).
** Also, wouldn't anybody be 'psychotically unhinged' if they realised that they weren't really who they thought they were, but just a copy? Since the preview scenes have been taken out of context, we don't know which Doctor is which or what happened to make either one act the way they did. We all know that the Doctor has a nasty habit of winding people up, and that almost certainly includes himself (all Nu-Who Doctors so far have suffered a huge amount of self-hatred). Er, anyway, point I was trying to make is that anything can happen and the Moff is obviously never going to stop screwing with us. (Long-winded comment got so long I had to cut it in two...)
** Given some credence. The Ganger Doctor was deactivated, but otherwise was sticking pretty well together.
** Confirmed. He's not a Ganger.
 
 
=== The Doctor who died in The Impossible Astronaut is a different Ganger version. ===
Amy and Rory tell him about being killed, and he uses the ganger machine to complete the stable time loop without being killed.
* Jossed.
 
=== The Doctor will come back through a Ganger. ===
Prior to his death, the Doctor created a Ganger version of himself. Containing all his heart, mind and soul, it'll effectively be a [[Replacement Goldfish]]. Since Gangers are supposed to be indentical, the Ganger Doctor will be capable of regenerating. Indeed, since that clone never regenerated, he'll get 12 more lives.
* Jossed. It was a ruse.
 
=== The Doctor that was killed is really the Teselecta robot. ===
It's not like the Doctor to leave a perfectly working transforming robot in the middle of Nazi Germany. We've seen that it can take the form of anyone it has data on, so why not the Doctor? At that moment it only seemed to respond to Amy commands, but I'm sure with a little Time Lord know how, he could adjust it so that it would take his appearance. I'm sure the Doctor would adjust it so that it's movements and interactions won't be as stiff. The Tesselecta is a perfect stand in to take a blow for the Doctor.
* By extension, he could theoretically control it remotely with a ganger-harness or some such device.
* Confirmed! Although he didn't pick it up in Germany. And he was inside, not controlling from afar.
 
=== It will be River's plan and not the Doctor's that saves him from his death in The Impossible Astronaut ===
To echo her saving him in LKH. everyone is expecting the Doctor to have some plan to save himself from death. Last season finale he had managed a last minute plan to set up Amy bringing him back from being erased, so we expect he should manage to change his own death.
* After "The God Complex" he's starting to look like a [[Death Seeker]]. He seems to have resigned himself to dying for real and might even welcome it. It's probable that someone else is going to have to come up with and pull off a clever plan to save his butt this time around.
* Jossed, sort of. It's complicated.
 
=== It was the real Doctor, but he isn't really dead. ===
A couple quotes:
{{quote|"You cut off my hand...And now I know what sort of man I am. I'm lucky. 'Cause quite by chance, I'm still in the first fifteen hours of my regeneration cycle. Which means I've got just enough residual cellular energy to do this." (regrows hand) –Tenth Doctor, "The Christmas Invasion"}}
 
{{quote|"Never shoot a girl while she's regenerating." (blasts Nazis with regeneration energy) -Melody Pond, "Let's Kill Hitler"}}
 
And, above all, '''Rule One: "The Doctor lies"'''
 
He's not going to die, obviously. Matt Smith has signed on for the next season. The question is, how is he going to get out of it? We learned way back in Christmas, 2005 that a regenerating Time Lord can heal injuries, and Melody/River kindly reminded us in "Let's Kill Hitler". The Astronaut waited until the Doctor started to regenerate before shooting again. It was implied that this was because that's when he was vulnerable, but what if it was the opposite? What if the Astronaut, whoever that is, didn't want him to die? He was shot again, but it had no effect. River said he was dead, but it was probably an earlier version of her in the suit, so she knew what was going on and lied to keep the continuity stable. The Doctor stayed quiet while they burned him alive because he's guilty and masochistic like that. Once they were all gone, he popped up gasping and swam to shore. He then lied, lied, lied to the entire Universe, made them all think the Doctor we know to be 11 had been the final regeneration. That's why he told Amy, Rory and River he was 1100 when we've seen him in trailers donning a cowboy had and telling the Tardis it was their last trip. The Doctor lied, River lied, and Stephen Moffat lied. Are you reallly surprised?
* To the argument that the Tessalecta people said his death there was a fixed point in Space and Time: It's canon that Time Lords somehow see how fixed certain points in Time are. Presumably, these Justice Department blokes have a computer program, because they are certainly no Time Lords. No computer could rival the Doctor's own brain. I wouldn't be surprised if he planted that fact himself, so people would stop trying to kill him at other times.
* Confirmed, at least in part. He faked his death, and used a Teselecta to do so.
 
=== The Doctor Killed The Doctor. ===
* Either through a bizarre timeloop or something Ganger related, the Doctor was the astronaut as well, and the "death" was something quite different then what everyone else thinks it was.
* Jossed.
 
=== The Doctor's death only became a fixed point in time after the Big Bang 2 ===
When River Song tries to work out what point in his timeline the Doctor is in relation to her in Silence of the Library, one of the occasions she asks him if he remembers is the crash of the Byzantium. This happens in the Time of Angels, during which the Doctor is in his Eleventh incarnation - the same incarnation that River witnessed him die in. But when she asks his Tenth incarnation if he's gone through that adventure yet, she has to believe that the Doctor could be in an incarnation following his Eleventh, otherwise the question makes no sense - if he died in the same incarnation he witnessed the crash she's talking about, she'd know a different incarnation can't have witnessed it, and therefore the question is pointless (and potentially dangerous, given the views of herself and the Doctor on "spoilers").
Perhaps when the universe was destroyed and rebooted, someone or something took advantage of the re-creation to try and make some alterations to what normally couldn't be altered, such as changing the time and events that cause the Doctor to die. He can't have always been destined to die in his Eleventh incarnation, as we know from the events in the Sixth Doctor's trial that the Valeyard split off from him between his Twelth and Final incarnations. So perhaps the universal reboot allowed a new fixed point in time to be created. And maybe this is the Doctor's chance to survive. Protected by the Pandorica, he still counts as being from the original version of the universe, not the new version, so maybe he's not as bound by fixed points in time as is made out to be.
 
=== The Doctor used the Two Streams facility on himself to deliberately create a paradox, after seeing what happened to Amy. ===
The Doctor wasn't shown often during the episode, so it is possible that he had wandered off into his own personal stream for a while. He then found another stream from some time into the future and rescued his older self, who then took his place as the Doctor. Due to being a Time Lord and near the Vortex both versions of him could, for a while, be able to exist together. The present Doctor hid in the TARDIS away from Amy and Rory, and soon left for Lake Silencio after careful discussion and planning with his other self, while the future Doctor took over the Doctor's role. From ''The God Complex'' on, the Doctor we've seen is a paradoxical future-self that shouldn't be able to exist.
 
The present Doctor is the one to be shot by the astronaut, who is actually the future-Doctor about two hundred years older. Once he dies, the universe can't quite make up its mind whether his other self should be dead or alive. After everyone else was gone and the Doctor's body reduced to a mere skeleton, he recovers it and does much the same thing that River Song did to him in Berlin... he uses up his remaining regenerations, and indeed his entire life force, to revive the Doctor. He is completely absorbed into the 'real' Doctor, leaving no body behind, making them one once more with all the memories and experiences of both and ending the paradox.
* Time goes wibbly, but it has nothing to do with Two Streams.
 
=== The Eleventh Doctor will be the last ===
If his future self's death ''The Impossible Astronaut'' was [[Killed Off for Real|for real]] and won't be retconned, then there will never be a twelfth doctor. There is unlimited time for the series to continue, as the Doctor lives another two hundred years, but he will not regenerate again.
* It turns out that he didn't die for real. Rule One in action.
 
=== Canton Everett Delaware III was lying. ===
Either the Doctor isn't dead, or he was a copy or a robot or something. But, for reasons yet unknown, the Doctor needed everybody to think he had died. But since this would be the last time Canton would see Amy, River, and Rory, there would be no way for them to discover this until the Doctor Revealed that he wasn't dead. Why do this? [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Who knows]]! The best theory this troper can imagine is that, for some reason, they needed to see the Doctor die so that Amy would try and kill the astronaut in an attempt to save him, for some reason I can't determine because we're only two episodes in as of this writing.
* He was in fact a robot. Or something.
 
=== The Astronaut is some incarnation of Susan Foreman. ===
A bit out there, but the impossible astronaut can be thought of as unearthly, a call-back to ''An Unearthly Child''.
* Jossed. It's River. And NASA astronauts are ''from'' Earth, so what does that even mean?
 
=== It was River who... ===
killed The Doctor (or whoever it may actually have been) in "The Impossible Astronaut. Seems likely. She's Amy and Rory's daughter and after firing at the astronaut, she says, "Of course...". Seems like she knows why it didn't drop dead at the very least.
* Confirmed. Sort of.
 
 
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