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** I reckon they could be related. While it's understandable he'd be freaked out under the circumstances, Topher seemed absolutely ''digusted'' at the concept of waking up with [[Amy Acker]] in his bed. Like he's embarrassed by the implication he's getting turned on by his sister..?
'''2. Topher imprinted Whiskey with some of himself'''
* It explains how she was able to hack into his personal
'''4. Topher likes Whiskey.''''
* In the man-reaction sort of way. And so, to avoid temptation (because he's really a good guy), he imprints the new Dr. Saunders with a distaste for him.
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** It would predict multiple actors for Alpha. If he's a stand-alone complex, he can change Dolls without the Dollhouse machinery. Hostile takeovers also become an option - he could override a Dollhouse-assigned imprint.
'''4. Alpha wasn't an aberration or a freak event. He was a near miss.'''
* The ultimate purpose of the Dollhouse is to synthesize an ultimate polymath. Alpha was
'''5. One of the imprints that surfaced during Alpha's composite event is Topher.'''
* As suggested below, it seems likely that when Topher did his diagnostic-birthday-thing, he imprinted Sierra with his own personality.
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== Alpha wants to make Echo into someone like him ==
Setting up the [[Hunting the Most Dangerous Game]] scenario was all part of his plan to force Echo to evolve or die. Somehow, when he encountered her on his post-integration rampage, he recognized that she had the potential to undergo that same integration; he knows that only some form of great stress can force the memories
* As a corollary: it's possible that Alpha is obsessed with making her 'wake up' because they knew each other before they became dolls. [[Love Makes You Evil]] and all that.
** Alternately, Alpha is the reason Echo became an Active. He was assigned to bring her in after the events flashed back to in 1x07, and feels responsible for her as a result. (And that was the reason he went crazy?)
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** But wait, wasn't that [[Universal]]?
*** If it is Universal, then the odds of an Active going berserk over a granola bar [[Product Placement]] approach certainty.
* And when the Operative says he has no name, he means that
** Would also explain why Earth has been abandoned in the Firefly 'verse, {{spoiler|what with the Apocalypse and all. All the Firefly people are descendants of ihabitants of Safe Haven}}
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== There is no mole ==
Topher inputted the subversive subroutine at the behest of Adelle so that Paul Ballard would back down for the time
The mention of a single person on the inside to Agent Ballard was to throw him for a mental loop and confuse him enough to both have him worried about protecting Mellie and get him out of the FBI. In other words, it's a [[Mind Screw]].
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"Dollhouse: Awakening" sounds a hell of a lot like a finale. It's only the eighth episode. Yep, [[The Firefly Effect]] lives on.
** [[The Other Wiki]] says the eighth episode is called Needs, and involves Echo, Sierra and Victor regaining part of their real personalities. Sounds more like a turning point in the arc-plot, not a finale.
** ALL 13 episodes WILL be shown on Fox (apart from on April
** Well, not exactly; only 12 of the 13 episodes were shown, with the last being available only on DVD. But since the show was renewed for a second season, this theory has been [[Jossed]].
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The events of episode 10 represent either a dry run, or a rediscovery by the Los Angeles branch of this particular function.
* If you like, you can combine it with the "the Dollhouse's ultimate purpose is to produce polymaths" theory above, and say that the plan is to allow their customers, after they die, to wake up in young attractive bodies knowing kung fu.
* The department Adelle was working for before her transfer to the
* Wait a minute - did you just say [[Battlestar Galactica|"Resurrection"]]?
* This doesn't really work though. The original person (Their 'soul', I guess) stays dead, the dollhouse just creates a copy. It's like with vampires in Joss' other work- they may look like you, act like you, have your memories, they may even think they are you... but the original you is still dead. Of course, strictly speaking this means that all the dolls' original personalities are also technically dead. Perhaps you could skirt around this a bit by taking Ballard's suggestion that you can't erase someone's soul, so putting a mind back in its original body means it's really them, but... this is all getting rather philosophical now.
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== Echo-Omega had a heart-to-heart talk with Boyd and Ballard during the drive back to the Dollhouse ==
Ballard had a pretty impressive shift in attitude by the end of the episode; during the drive back to the Dollhouse, he undoubtedly had a long talk with Echo-
== Victor will {{spoiler|be the new Dr Saunders}}. ==
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* It would explain where she was during that episode (possibly with Boyd covering for her). But it would also give the surviving Wesley/Fred shippers a happy, and Joss would never do such a thing. Unless it was to make their later misery all the more profound. Okay, it was sent by Whiskey.
* I consider it unlikely that Whiskey wants to bring down the Dollhouse. If that happened, Whiskey's pre-wipe personality would be restored and "Claire Saunders" would cease to exist, which is exactly what Whiskey doesn't want, according to "Vows".
** Unless she brings it down from the outside, without making her presence known to anyone who knows she's an Active. She may be thinking she can tear it down and walk away as the person who she's become. The flaw in this plan is that, presumably, she needs regular treatments to maintain her
*** I don't think most imprints need to be
{{spoiler|Jossed, it was Rossum}}
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== Topher is falling for Sierra. ==
Am I the only one who got that vibe from "Belonging"? Not that he'll do anything about
== Senator Perrin is NOT helping Rossum. ==
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* The problem with that is Topher's magic taser, which very clearly didn't work on him or on DeWitt. While in theory some kind of handwave would be possible, it just wouldn't sit well.
** If DeWitt were the partner, there is no reason why the taser would have worked on her. Clyde doesn't imply that the partner transferred his/her personality, and the ages match. As for Topher being Clyde 2.0 (or, more likely, Clyde 2.5, Clyde 3.0, Clyde 3.1, etc) I was under the impression that the taser worked on the current Active architecture. And this architecture seems to be what is necessary to constantly load and delete new imprints into a brain, which means it may have not been necessary for one wipe followed by a single, permanent imprint. The bigger problem with Topher being Clyde 2.0 is that we are specifically told Clyde's knowledge of the technology was suppressed in the new imprint.
*** Except that Clyde's been in there 17 years, with no idea how much time has
**** But the fact remains that the guy says they were 'students' which suggests 18-25; it was 16 years ago, and he, like DeWitt , seems 40-ish, fitting the timeline of events well.
* The thing though is that DeWitt is very clearly not in control of Rossum or what have you. Even Harding answers to higher ups. Were DeWitt the original, surely she'd be good enough to stay in control.
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== It doesn't matter who Clyde 2.0 is. ==
Because s/he's just going to be implanted into a different body anyway. There are at least 6 named characters running around with active architecture in their heads who could end up as Clyde 2.0. My money's on "You don't want to end up like November."
* Well, maybe. Don't forget that we are going back to an earlier version of the technology. We take it for granted that the 'point' of the technology is and always has been to constantly change imprints but that's because the Dollhouse needs to use it this way for its business. Therefore, the technology has been developed to enable constant loading and wiping of (modified) brains. But consider how much trauma wiping and imprinting must
** Possible, but Clyde 1.0 does note that his copy will probably have changed bodies by now.
** Maybe Bennett is Clyde 2.0. Or, Ivy.
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**** But the tabula rasa is an imprint, it's just a default, probably built into the architecture. Once you have active architecture, everything is an imprint, including your original self, your original self just hasn't been tampered with and had bits added, like the imprints Topher et al create. Proof: the disruptor will knock Madeline out, and someone's release procedure involves a more or less routine round in the chair.
** If Clyde 2.0 had no special knowledge and no free will, then what was the point of him? How can a personality with no 'aspiration' resemble ''any'' human being, let alone one who must have been some kind of genius?
*** He does have special
**** It's Clyde 5.0, he's not a known character, but Clyde 6.0 very much is.
== Epitaph One is not the literal future - it's a symbolic one representing two competing groupminds. ==
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== Echo is DeWitt's daughter ==.
* Possible, but unlikely, given that Adelle is ''at most'' 15 years older than Echo. Still, that'd be one more reason for their relationship it to be a secret, if this guess is true.
** Fifteen is certainly old enough to have a child. It's also certainly a likely age at which to have a child and give her up for adoption, which would explain why Caroline doesn't seem to know
== Boyd will die between 2.11 and the series finale ==.
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== Active Architecture enables stable imprinting of full personalities ==.
In the Dark Future of Epitaph One and Epitaph Two, there are a) Actuals : people whose minds and brains have never been tampered with ; b) 'dumbshows', who are wiped but not imprinted (unlike Actives, they cannot even speak and are hardly functional) ; c)'butchers' who have been wiped and imprinted with a crude program that makes them mindless killing machines ; d) 'tech-heads' ex-Actives (with Active Architecture) who have taken the technology into their own hands ; e) 'immortals' who move from body to body such as Harding, Ambrose and Iris. These last presumably also use Active Architecture. This seems to be what is required to imprint someone with a fully functioning copy of a personality rather than a simple program designed to turn them
== Alpha was created intentionally ==
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