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** But they never straight up fought in super saiyan form, at least not the same level. Goku always was a step up from Vegeta's Current form when he killed someone. He was SSJ When he fought Frieza, And [[SSJ 3]] when he fought Buu, and didn't even kill Buu with his own power.
* Who ever came up with that whacked up theory must be a huge Vegeta fan.
* Goku relies on his Super Saiya-jin forms a lot more because ''he's usually pitted against the [[Big Bad]]''. Threatening his own safety fighting in his base form when he could power up early on would be the DBZ equivalent of [[Never Bring a Knife
== Cell was holding back ==
Four words. Goku And Piccolo's Cells.
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While I've noticed a lot of hair based comments on this page, I felt this couldn't go explicitly unsaid - that a Saiyan is powered by hair length, style, and/or color, especially the higher levels of Super Saiyan. Think about it... At the start you have Goku with his huge, spiked afro, and he's the most powerful we've seen. Then you have Vegeta who has that wild mountain of spines, and the [[Villainous Widow's Peak|widow's peak]] so large that Everest goes flaccid in it's green tinged inadequacy. After that, the next Saiyan we've seen was Nappa, whose only hair was on his tail, and Goku defeated him handily. Raditz doesn't count, he was just an [[Anticlimax Boss]] and I'll explain why below. This theory only applies to full blooded Saiyans and not half or quarter Saiyans like Gohan, Trunks, or Pan.
* Now, let us observe the various Saiyan transformations, starting with their full moon monster form. Self explanatory, an enormous ape, covered in hair that is BROWN. The Super Saiyan one even had the extra hair to form the Super Saiyan spiked hair of doom. After, we discuss the Super Saiyan transformation itself. In the first stage, the hair spikes all the way up and become gold (an important Saiyan color), Vegeta has this hair style naturally which can explain why he gives Goku, who had MORE hair in their first fight, so many problems. In the Super Saiyan 2 stage, hair gets longer and bigger. In Super Sayian 3, well...[[Department of Redundancy Department|they of course get much, much more hair]], and lose their eyebrows. Now, According to the theory so far, this mean Raditz, who was basically just a Super Saiyan 3 with black hair and eyebrows should have destroyed Goku. But that's just it, his hair was not blonde/gold, and he had EYEBROWS. Perhaps this acted as a sort of power inhibitor, which would also explain why Super Saiyan 3 gives the utterly stupid fashion statement of lacking eyebrows. All Raditz had to do was shave off his eyebrows! So close...
* Now, and lastly, I'll talk about Super Saiyan 4, the most powerful form we've seen yet. Or that I've seen yet anyway... The hair is definitely longer, but not quite as long as in the previous incarnation of the legendary Super Saiyan, however! They compensate by growing red FUR on everywhere but the major muscles, but [[Testosterone Poisoning|hair can't grow on steel so that's okay]]. Not only this, they also grow back their tail, which only exists in this form, even if the Saiyan in question has had his tail pulled out instead of cut, removing it, supposedly, forever. I guess forever means [[New Powers
== Garlic And Garlic Jr. Are Namekians ==
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** I agree, it seems like it may be due to Heterosis - when creautres breed with similar genes breed, the offspring is similar to the parents. When varying creatures breed, the offspring can turn out better due to a wider selection of beneficial genes. Although it's extremely weird how humans can breed with saiyans considering how horses can't even breed properly with zebras. My guess is that humans are descended from Saiyans who used the technology of other races and evolved into being more peaceful due to the Earth being an easier place to live on.
*** Or, alternately, Saiyans are descended from humans taken from prehistoric earth by aliens and genetically enhanced into biological weapons of mass destruction....
** According to some theorists, notably among the [[
** Also note that it is only in the anime movie that Future Trunks' SSJ transformation was triggered by his grief and rage over Future Gohan's death. In the manga he was ''already'' able to transform, and the events that triggered his transformation is in fact not ever mentioned. And really, Gohan wasn't subjected to all that much emotional stress during his transformation sequence either, not when compared to what Goku and Vegeta went through. Then consider all their ages: Future Trunks (anime movie) - 14, Future Trunks(manga) - younger than 13, Gohan - 11 (physically 11.5-12 counting subjective time), Future Gohan - unknown, but implied to be soon after Goku's and the other Z-fighter's deaths, which would be mid teens at the latest. In short ''all'' the half-Saiyans in ''all'' the time lines ''all'' made SSJ at ridiculously young ages.
* This theory (that SSJ transformation ability is inherited in a partly Lamarkian fashion) also potentially explains why Pan did ''not'' ever transform into SSJ, despite several instances of extreme emotional stress/rage that might have caused such a transformation. At the time ''she'' was conceived, her father had undergone the Elder Kai's manipulation and did not need to transform to access his full power. Couple that with the fact that Pan appears to be at least as strong as a low-level [[SSJ 1]], on par with Goku when he fought Freeza (note how easily she disables and captures Dr. Gero/Android 20 in one scene), and how her ki aura turns SSJ gold when she powers up, and it raises the possibility that Pan inherited some part of the "mystic" transformation from Gohan, enabling her to access SSJ level power without physically transforming.
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*** That would be pretty ruthlessly funny if he had been made into one against his will, no?
* Remember, it was only in the anime that #17 has a male voice. Maybe in the manga Toriyama intended for them to sound the same--after all, they look exactly the same except for the hair. And #17's bandanna could be covering up some cleavage...
* [[Unfortunate Implications|Oh my god, you mean there's a strong guy in ]]''[[
== The "heart virus" Goku dies of in the alternate future is a biological weapon made by the aliens who taught him the teleportation move. ==
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== Frieza's death caused problems only slightly more preferable to the ones it solved. ==
We're talking about an empire that may span dozens, if not hundreds, of planets. We're talking about a creature that was so powerful that nothing could challenge him. So now that he's gone, the universe is suddenly facing a massive power vacuum. Numerous people will be competing to fill that vacuum - many of them probably a little whacked, others completely insane, and still others just dumb and selfish with no clue what it takes to rule properly. And each of these people will have their supporters, some looking for a free ticket to power and status, and others showing cultlike devotion to their new master and his grand destiny. Bloodshed for years. Huge-scale anarchy. Err, maybe Vegeta taking over wouldn't have been so bad?
* It wouldn't happen because almost everyone that wanted to take over when Freeza eventual death would happen was working for him ''and'' died. The only one that wanted such thing is alive after his death is Vegeta (who pretty much redeemed himself); or, if you take in consideration [[Sealed Evil in
** Two problems. The first is that power levels for better or worse seem to make a lot more difference in who wins a fight than inteligence or talent. So once the Ginyu force and Freiza were wiped out Zarbon likely could have taken command with little trouble. Possibly less trouble than the Captain Ginyu since all the flashbacks suggest that Zarbon and Dodoria are the next in command regardless of their power levels. The second being that Frieza couldn't be everywhere at once and since it's implied that the Saiyans are well above the rank and file (and lets be honest Raditz wasn't all that powerful by any scale used in DBZ) the elimination of Frieza, King Cold, the Ginyu Force, Zarbon and Dodoria and Cui all at once is an enormous vacuum.
** Why assume that the only megalomaniac villains out there are the ones we see? Surely, some reasonably powerful people are going to come crawling out of the woodwork when they get their chance?
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*** This would imply that Time Lords can go Oozaru at some stage. Maybe Gallifrey has something to do with Blutz waves?
== Vegeta is American. ==
Think about it! His attacks have English names in Japan, his Big Bang Attack causes Nuclear Explosions, he's the most arrogant person in the series. There's no doubt he's more [[Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Abridged Series
* Alternately, everyone in Planet Vegeta were Americans. Most of them happen to have vegetable names in English, only slightly modified.
** Lol, possible. But [[Word of God]] has it that Vegeta was given English moves so as to seem more alien to the Japanese audience.
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The similarities? Both require a tremendous level of power in base form, they both require the user to go through a personality change of sorts, both have a golden aura, and both grant the user ridiculous levels of power. The only difference between the two is that Sacred Energy doesn't change the eye color of the user. But maybe the hair and eye color change is just a Saiyan trait.
== Dende is an avatar of [[
He is made the new Kami-sama of Earth for a reason.
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Goku drank the Divine Water in Korin's Tower in order to defeat King Piccolo. It changed him from being a lowly C-Rank warrior to probably an A-Rank Warrior. Guru's raising of Gohan's and Krilin's potential probably had a similar effect.
* Interesting, and entirely possible! That would explain why Krillin pulled far ahead of the other humans after the Namek saga.
** Now that I think of it, if [[Lamarck Was Right]] biology applies to the [[
* You mean the divine water he drank before his fight with King Piccolo? Because the 'divine water' in Korin's tower was just ordinary water.
** Right, that 'Divine Water', the one that's potentially fatal. Not the ordinary water that Korin normally guards.
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== Frieza is an alternate-universe version of [[Batman]]. ==
Assuming that his actual parents are dead, and King Cold is his subordinate (very nearly canon) and parental figure ("king" being a given name like King Vegeta is guessed to have on the [[Dragon Ball
* So…if Batman ever got selfish…[[The DCU]] would become something akin to a [[Hell
== Future Bulma didn't actually build a time machine - she built a machine made to travel through to ''alternate realities''! ==
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== Tarble looks so young because the planet he was sent to is so very far away ==
Tarble spent most of his life in cold sleep. He heard of Frieza's defeat shortly after it happened, but it took him another several years of travel to get to earth.
* So, a male [[Tenchi Muyo!|Ayeka]], huh? Wow, that explains everything.
== Saiyans have a collective source of energy from which they draw their transformative powers. ==
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== Kaio-sama/King Kai [[Narrator All Along|is the narrator]]. (In the Japanese version.) ==
Both are played by [[Jouji Yanami]], besides King Kai ''is'' a God of sorts. Why wouldn't he be able to narrate the story? (This kinda falls apart in the dub where [[Sean Schemmel]] is King Kai, Brice Armstrong narrates [[
== Saiyans & Nameks are polar opposites ==
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All in all, proof for the Saiyan Sharingan is irrefutable.
* A Saiyan's iris isn't really emphasized, I believe that you are just another ''[[
== Dragon Ball takes place in Shadowrun's Sixth World ==
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**** The only time I can ever remember someone accusing Yamcha of cheating was a pre-22nd Budoukai-vaguely-Red-Ribbon-Army-ish episode where a thief or soldier flirts with him, he looks incredibly uncomfortable with it. Bulma ''misinterprets the entire scene,'' and refuses to wait for an explanation before going off to adventure with Goku. Yamcha is cocky, yes. He's proud, a bit devious in his early appearances, but while I'm not sure I'd say he was deeply in love with Bulma, it's clear the two of them cared about each other, and the whole "Yamcha cheats on Bulma and she runs crying to Vegeta because he's ''so understanding''" scenario has never really rung true. It is a gross disservice to all three characters. It would have been much more believable if it had been written as "Bulma got fed up with Yamcha going off to train all the time and got with Vegeta because, hey, he stays close to home and he's not all bad." And furthermore, it's also just... not very ''like'' Toriyama. It actually sounds really out of place in a series like ''Dragon Ball''.
== Dr. Briefs and his wife are actually [[Panty
It'd be hilarious if it was true, after all, Bulma's mother DOES look a bit like a curly-haired Panty, not to mention Dr. Briefs' name. Bulma's hair color (taking in consideration the manga, where it's purple)? Comes from her mother's side. After all, her possible aunt Stocking has a weird hair color which can only be defined as upper-purple/lower-pink... She was conceived when Panty still was powerless, explaining why she doesn't have any outstanding angel powers... But still explaining why she's resistant (and convincing) enough to go to bed with Vegeta. There, I think I created the craziest theory WMG could ever have.
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