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* [[Abridged Arena Array]]: The level 40 patch gives us the Dark Overlord Training Camp which had a [[Good Bad Bug]] allowing for [[Sequence Breaking]] [[Speed Run|Speed Runs]]. This became a popular training spot for [[Super Speed]] classes like Warriors and Archers but it made [[Mighty Glacier]] [[Combat Medic|Clerics]] [[Tier -Induced Scrappy|Tier Induced Scrappies]] as a result. Needless to say, it spawned '''MASSIVE''' [[Flame War|Flame Wars]] between Clerics and ''everyone else'' in the SEA server.
** Other dungeons are either [[Nintendo Hard]] or [[It's Easy, So It Sucks]], but don't give much EXP per hour than DOTC can. This is not helped by the associated [[Repeatable Quest]] having the highest EXP reward of all the Assault quests despite the dungeon being available at a ''lower'' level than others. [[Level Grinding|More runs per hour]], [[Money Grinding|more profit]].
** [[Disproportionate Retribution|In retaliation]], Clerics have united against the players (mostly the aforementioned [[Super Speed]] classes) who kicked them from DOTC parties by ''[[Take That|kicking them from Manticore and Apocalypse parties]]''. The catch? It's [[Nintendo Hard|nigh-difficult if not impossible]] to take down [[That One Boss|These One Bosses]] ''without a Cleric''! This gave rise to [[The Great Player -Versus -Player Debate|an intense debate about which classes are the most useful against future bosses]] such as [[Always a Bigger Fish|the Sea Dragon and the Green Dragon]].
** It's even earlier than that. The level 32 patch saw ''a lot'' of players grinding Sanctuary Core and Dark Tower Magic Institute because the then [[Nintendo Hard]] Saint Haven nests give roughly the same EXP per hour as these ''Calderock nests''.
* [[Base Breaker]]: The [[Abridged Arena Array]] mentioned above.
** [[Game Breaker|Elementalists]] and the [[Anti Poop Socking-Poopsocking|Fatigue (FTG) System]] in the SEA version.
* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Many, many examples. The game is widely praised for giving most enemy types unique movesets rather than just swinging their weapons like in other Korean MMOs but you'll often find yourself wishing the devs hadn't bothered.
** Dark Elf Assassins have a very fast attack that launches you into the air, setting you up for an almost inescapable series of hits that juggle you [[For Massive Damage]]. The Dark Elves also like to flip around in order to avoid your attacks, and [[The Computer Shall Taunt You|have the audacity to dance after they finish you off]].
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** "[[Leet Speak|w3ws]]" for the [[GIFT|unrepentant]] [[Troll|trolls]] and [[Griefer|griefers]] in the SEA server, [[Unfortunate Implications|usually attributed to Filipino players]] (see [[The Scrappy]] below).
*** This originated from Filipino gamers' usual behavior of typing "wew" instead of "wow" when doing an online [[Face Palm]] since the letter 'e' is closer to 'w' on the keyboard than 'o'. It would be impractical to type "wow" when playing a ''very'' fast-paced game where [[Serious Business|a single second of delay could mean victory or defeat for the players]]. However, [[Sturgeon's Law|90% of them]] started to type 'w3w' instead of 'wew' to show off their [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|elitist air]].
* [[Fetish Fuel]]: The Events Planner NPC [[Spell My Name Withwith an "S"|Irene / Irine]], complete with [[Goofy Print Underwear|Goofy Print]] [[Panty Shot]].
* [[Foe Yay]]: Warrior Trainer Chandler and Typhoon Krag (see [[Ho Yay]] below). Sadly, it passes down to Typhoon Krag's son and Chandler's I-am-not-your-disciple (who happens to be the Player Character).
* [[Game Breaker]]: The rise of the [[Paladin]] class in the SEA server is attributed to the power of [[Memetic Mutation|Gladus Tek Ma]], basically a [[Counter Attack]] buff, and Paladins have THREE of these, enough to practically make them [[Attack Reflector|Attack Reflectors]]. And that's only one of their ''basic class skills''. At level 40, they gain access to [[Super Mode]], practically making already [[Mighty Glacier]] Paladins virtually [[Why Won't You Die?|unkillable]]. No wonder the Chinese and Korean servers soft-banned the Paladin's [[Super Mode]] to ensure [[Fake Balance|balance]].
** Hell, the Paladin class itself was so much of a [[Game Breaker]] during the first half of the level 32 patch that ''nine of them got into the top 10 of the'' ''[[Pv PPvP]]'' ''ladder in one of the'' ''SEA'' ''servers''.
** Also, the Swordmaster's [[Razor Wind|Cyclone]] [[Blade Spam|Slash]], which can [[Cycle of Hurting|juggle its target]] [[For Massive Damage]]. At higher levels (and in one of their third job classes), this ''melee'' class gains a variety of [[Sword Beam|Sword Beams]], which mostly avert the [[Short-Range Long-Range Weapon]] situation endemic to this game. Think about this for a moment.
** The [[Playing Withwith Fire|Element]][[An Ice Person|alist]] Class has '''[[Up to Eleven|TWO]]''' '''[[Memetic Mutation|GLADUS TEK MA]]''' '''SHIELDS''' that can be toggled. The best part? It prevents the caster from flinching when taking a hit, so she can [[Implacable Man|take almost anything that comes her way]] without getting interrupted while casting her spells. That and you just got for yourself a [[Squishy Wizard]] who can tank like a [[Stone Wall]].
*** Dragon Nest China players have a gentleman's agreement to not use this skill along with a few others, but if you are a [[Jerkass]] or a foreigner who can't read Chinese and use it anyway, you can defeat players ''twenty levels'' higher than you. Needless to say, ELs now enjoy the same [[Pv PPvP]] dominance Paladins used to have as mentioned above.
** The Mercenary is largely resistant to interruption (he can be completely resistant for 8 seconds with one of his buffs), has a large HP pool and does massive damage per hit in an equally massive area on most of his skills. He has [[Super Speed|a fast sprinting ability]] as well.
** The HP and Mana suffixes have a 25% chance to restore a percentage of the player's maximum whenever a hit is taken and with a mere 5 seconds of cooldown they trigger almost all the time. Characters with a large enough point pool and multiple gear pieces with either suffix will often leave an encounter with more points than they had going in even if they don't use potions or collect food. Since these attributes are the result of a recent balance patch they are unlikely to be changed any time soon.
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* [[Ho Yay]]:
** Warrior Trainer Chandler and his.. "Rival" Typhoon Krag.
{{quote| '''Chandler:''' I still remember the feel of his breath against my cheek as our weapons clashed for the first time...<br />
'''Player Character:''' Too much information. TOO MUCH INFORMATION! }}
** If you are good friends with Sorceress Stella, she will ask you on your opinion on Warrior Rodingo. One of the answers you can give is "I have a crush on him!" ''even if you are playing as a Warrior or Cleric.''
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** Similar to [[Ho Yay]], Stella will ask you on your opinion of Archer Isillien. You can also reply that you have a crush on her, even when playing as a Sorceress or Archer.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [[Luckily, My Shield Will Protect Me|GLADUS TEK MA!]]
** It all started [https://web.archive.org/web/20131031034743/http://dragonnest.nexon.net/community/forum#%2Fshowthread.php%3F40408-why-for-i-do-no-damage-!!-! here]. The Dragon Nest SEA community started this phrase as a meme in their [https://web.archive.org/web/20120518031908/http://forum.cherrycredits.com/forum/topics/view/gladus-tek-ma-read-this forums]. Soon after being accepted as a meme, forum members are starting to put "GLADUS TEK MA" in their signatures, and later, it became a viral hit in the forums. "GLADUS TEK MA!" is probably the [[Mondegreen]] of "Goddess protect me!" (if you're using the English voicebanks or playing the NA version).
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: The way the Sorceress crawls around after being knocked down is disturbing.
** In Dark Overlord Keep, you actually get to see Brethren summoners kill captured Saint Haven troops and resurrect them as dark skeletons. It's surprisingly graphic.
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: Hybrid FTG system into DN SEA!? Ruined FOREVER!!!(Mostly by Grinders/Gold Sellers)
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: Some players think that the devs perceive the [[Black Mage|Mystic]] / [[Time Master|Force]] [[Gravity Master|User]] [[Frickin' Laser Beams|class]] as a [[Game Breaker]] so they keep hitting it with the [[Nerf|Nerfbat]] '''HARD'''. First, they decreased its base damage output, then they ''increased the casting time of Mystic spells''. But what really takes the cake is the nerfing of [[Time Stands Still|Time Stop]]'s effect duration in [[Pv PPvP]].
** To put it in perspective, 2.75 seconds at the Level 32 Patch is just not enough time to get shit done. Why? Because other classes can dodge it like it's nothing and Warriors can now buff their way out of it. As a result, the Force User Class becomes the [[Joke Character|weakest class]] in [[Pv PPvP]], [[Some Dexterity Required|the most difficult class to play as]], and the [[Money, Dear Boy|most expensive class to maintain]].
** Even when the Force User class gets massive buffs in the [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|4th Class Transformation patch]], other classes get buffed to ridiculously higher levels, too. So for [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|some]] [[Scrub|people]], the Force User buff is just not good enough, but at least Force User players now don't have to work as hard as before.
** Clerics in [[Player Versus Environment|PvE]] became this trope in the level 40 patch with the release of the Dark Overlord Training Camp due to their [[Mighty Glacier]] status. Well, fine, except that ''[["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|a lot of players]]'' from the level 24 patch have played as [[That Damn Ken|Paladins]] due to their [[Game Breaker]] status in [[Pv PPvP]], leaving them wasting hours upon hours of searching for DOTC parties instead of just [[Solo Character Run|soloing the nest themselves]] until some [[Nice Guy]] offers them a slot in the party despite being slow as a turtle.
* [[That One Boss]]: Quite a few examples, the massive ones in particular. Most have ''at least'' incredibly durable Super Armor ([[Knockback]] immunity) and multi-hit attacks with gigantic hit boxes. All bring a sizable number of minions despite being far more powerful than the average [[Flunky Boss]]. On harder difficulties the smaller bosses are ''cloned'' as well.
** The Minotaur boss (Sleeper's Temple) can sometimes fall into this territory if you're not careful.
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* [[That One Level]]: Any 'Nest' map, featuring multiples of previous ''bosses'', souped-up [[Mook|Mooks]] and [[Elite Mook|Elite Mooks]]. At the end of each is a massively upgraded version of a previous [[That One Boss]]. Recent nests have shiny new nasties that blow all previous TOBs out of the water and there's no way to rehearse for them with an easier version.
* [[The Scrappy]]:
** Warriors. They are pretty much hated anywhere, in any section of the game. [[Player Versus Environment|PvE]]? [[Divide and Conquer|People complain that they push away creeps from each other]], preventing other party members from nuking them all in one shot, and that they have the worst damage. [[Pv PPvP]]? [[Game Breaker|People complain that they are too overpowered]].
*** To put it in perspective, there have been times on the Dragon Nest forum where people have posted suggestion threads to ''[[Fan Dumb|remove Warrior from the game as a class choice]].''
*** It's not the class that the people hate, I observe. It's just that [[Sturgeon's Law|90% of Warrior users, particularly Swordmasters]], are clones of [[Leeroy Jenkins]] whose one and only strategy is [[Attack! Attack! Attack!]].
** Regarding [[Pv PPvP]], if the Paladins haven't reached this trope yet, they're on their way to doing so soon. See the [[Game Breaker]] entry above.
** The SEA server is a perfect demonstration on why Filipino gamers are hated in Eastern MMORPG servers in the same way the Brazilians are widely hated in Western servers. Usual hate reasons are pretty much the same for both nationalities: a [[Noob]] mentality taken [[Up to Eleven]], [[Over Nine Thousand]] levels of [[Whoring]], a sense of nationalism that would put [[Eagle Land]] to shame, and speaking in a [[Starfish Language|strange language]] that nobody understands except themselves. [[It Gets Worse]] if you try to [[What the Hell, Hero?|call them out on it]] because they will call racism at moment's notice.
* [[Ugly Cute]]: Poochums.