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* On ''[[Father Ted]]'', when Ted is [[Mistaken for Racist]], Father Dougal surprises everyone, including himself, by coming up with the solution to the problem. (Hold a festival of diversity). This is particularly distressing for Dougal, who insists that there must be some [[Fatal Flaw]] neither of them have realised yet.
* In ''[[M*A*S*H (television)|Mash]]'', when a general's prized gun turned up missing and Radar was about to take the fall for the theft, Hawkeye and BJ confronted [[Small Name, Big Ego|Major Burns]], who openly admired the gun when he saw it. Burns refused to answer their questions and accused them of convicting him without a trial, asking, "What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?" After Burns left, Hawkeye turned to BJ and asked, "Don't you hate it when he's right?" Subverted, because {{spoiler|Burns really was the thief}}.
* Happens occasionally on ''[[Friends]]'', usually with respect to [[Book Dumb|Joey]]. For example, when discussing Rachel's inappropriate crush on her assistant,
{{quote|'''Joey:''' The big question is, does he like you? Because if he doesn't like you this is all a moo point.
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'''Rachel:''' Have I been living with him too long or did that just make sense? }}
* In the ''[[Babylon 5]]'' episode "Grey 17 is missing" the [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|Warrior Caste member Neroon]] delivers a rather [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABOw9cNw5lU&t=00m07s caustic observation] to how he interprets Delenn's breaking of the Grey Council and essentially taking over Minbari leadership for the Greater Good. While everything Delenn claims about the situation turns out to be ''true'' and eventually works out for the good of everyone, from Neroon's point of view it's probably the equivalent of how a modern-day American would view a Senator breaking up Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the Presidency, forming a private army with her own charisma, proceeded to enlist volunteers from a country we were recently at war with (like, say, Iraq), formed a base on an outpost of said country, claimed she was on a [[Mission From God]], and that all this was necessary to save the world from [[Alien Invasion]].
* During the Second Season finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer the Scoobies discover a way to return Angel's soul, thus removing him as a bad guy. Xander's reaction is "I don't care, Angel needs to die," pointing out that Buffy is "ignoring Miss Calendar's murder just so you can get your boyfriend back". While the franchise later on takes the position (on Angel's own TV show, season 4, to be precise) that Angel and Angelus are entirely separate entities who just happen to take turns using the same body and that Angel is therefore not morally liable for Angelus' actions, by that point the franchise has also long established Angel's own willingness to be killed if that becomes necessary to stop Angelus from hurting anyone ever again, so its a moot point. But Xander is still entirely correct in that virtually no one the show, except maybe Cordelia, seems to even ''care'' about this dilemna. Buffy is too focused that she can get Angel back to realize he might have a point, and Willow is too focused on supporting Buffy to do so either.
** The other hotly debated question from that episode is 'Xander's Lie', when Xander deliberately fails to tell Buffy that Willow is making a second attempt at the re-ensouling spell and leaves Buffy with the impression that she has no alternative left but to fight Angelus to the death. Some (including Buffy, when she eventually found out about it in season 7) considered this a gross personal betrayal, others considered it Xander making a hard choice out of necessity because Buffy had failed to defeat Angelus on multiple occasions before due to lack of motivation and if she holds back against him yet again out of hope that his soul will soon be restored, the world might end up sucked into hell. However, the part that qualifies for this trope is the entirely valid point Xander attempted to make to Willow (that neither she nor anyone else in the show paid the slightest bit of attention to) -- which was that she was an inexperienced spellcaster trying to attempt a magical ritual she had already failed at once under better conditions, only partly understood, and '''while Willow was already suffering from a concussion'''. In other words, that in Xander's estimation she has no realistic chance of actually succeeding in casting the spell and every chance of killing herself trying to.
*** Of course, Willow ''did'' succeed in casting the spell on her second attempt, but that was only because the writer was on her side.
** In the penultimate episode of season 4, Xander makes a suggestion half-jokingly and catches Giles' look to which Xander says "Yeah, don't tell me. I'm just full of helpful suggestions." Giles says "As a matter of fact, you are."
* In the ''[[Firefly]]'' episode "Out Of Gas", Jayne, of all people, tells Wash and Mal to stop fighting because they're using up more air than if they were calm.
* In ''[[Misfits]]'', when Simon and Alisha think it's their moral duty to try and defeat a demented criminal who's been terrorizing their neighborhood, [[Cloudcuckoolander]] Nathan responds with: "Listen guys, I think I speak for all of us when I say - we are lazy and incompetent. We're practically handicapped! Leave it to the Police. They get ''paid'' to get shot." In the stunned silence that follows, Curtis admits: "I ''never'' thought I'd say this, but he's talking sense."
* In ''[[Community]]"" episode [[Community/Recap/S1
* ''[[The Golden Girls]]'' used to play this for laughs a lot with Rose, since she was the one who seemed dumb all the time.
** Also played straight in the episode with [[Very Special Episode|Dorothy's gambling problem]]. Dorothy gets so bad that she lies to Rose about needing money and Rose gives Dorothy her bank card. Dorothy asks Rose if she realizes that she's stealing her money, and Rose says "I know."
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