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==== Healer ====

* [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]]: Due to its limited ability to do anything but heal, Healers tend to get a poor reputation.

 

==== Incarnate ====

* [[Broken Base]]: The edition war between 3rd and 4th editions. While there were some changeover gripes between 2nd and 3rd, this edition war has reached [[Internet Backdraft]] levels, possibly simply due to the availability of the Internet and the increased popularity of the system. Also the setting issue, where assorted players have flame wars over pointless gripes such as whether Eberron's [[Dungeon Punk]] setting is bad or not.

** And, more recently after WOTC released a new set of core books called "Essentials", there is a heavy flame war between people who like "pre-E" D&D and those who like "post-E". The former group tends to call this new set "4.5", the latter gets positively enraged at seeing this number.

*** They already have: Fans of 3E are [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|rejoicing over 5E]], while fans of 4E are crying [[Ruined FOREVER]] at the return of [[Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards]].

*** [[It Got Worse]]: Many of the rules just ''don't make any goddamn sense'' in the playtest, such as having to roll ''36 hit dice for a rat swarm because the game treats each rat as an individual monster''. And remember [[Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards]]? Well, let's just say the problem's '''worse than ever''': Rogues and Fighters are absolutely worthless and Clerics have been reduced to healbots. The kicker? [[Game Breaker|Wizards can do everything better than all the other classes combined]]. A lot of longtime fans who have accepted the move to 4E hate the playtest as well, and even some 4E haters are crying out that Wizards seems to have taken only the ''worst'' parts of all the previous editions to make the game. About the only reason the base is broken over it is because of 4E's [[Hate Dumb]] loving it blindly without even caring about how badly-designed the game is.

* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|Complaining About Games You Don't Play]]: Considering that this is a game with its rules spread across as many as six different editions, with extra supplements for almost anything, a monthly publication that provided extra rules and modules, and that this is a gaming hobby where most people internalise the identity of the game they love, it's very common to find people complaining about whole editions of the game they've never played, never read, or in some cases, never heard of outside of the complaints of others. In the information age, the most noticeable version of this is the reaction to 4th Edition's latest extra rules supplements, but it goes back further than that. Especially given how complex some rules supplements are, it's pretty much inevitable that people will disallow some based on no '''actual''' play experience. This can make it awfully awkward to deal with legitimate concerns about any particular part of the game, since there's a lot of backdraft over disliking things other people like.

* [[Fandom Rivalry]]: Some fans of weapon-using classes (I.E. Fighter, Ranger, Rogue, Barbarian, Paladin and Monk) don't get along with some fans of magic-using classes (I.E. Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, Bard, Druid and Warlock). [[Trolling Creator|Mike Mearls]] encourages this.

* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: ''Every'' edition has inspired [[Fanon Discontinuity]]. There is still a very vocal 2nd Edition fanbase that despises the changes wrought in the transition to 3rd, and not a few 1st Edition holdouts who consider 2nd to be a bastardization, and a handful of hardcore grognards who think 1st Edition should never have supplanted "classic" D&D (called it 0E [Zero-E]). The 4th edition gets it the most, and most fans couldn't stand the new alignment system. [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|Players naturally gravitate towards the things that make them more comfortable]]. Of course, it's not like the books stop working when a new edition comes out, and any really cemented group is going to have lots of house rules anyway, so it's natural that players will remain players, even when they stop buying the new material.

* [[Internet Backdraft]]: Just try to say anything against or in favor of 4th Edition on a D&D forum, only do so if you have a death wish. Starting an argument against or for a particular setting is also ill-advised.

* [[Paranoia Fuel]]: So wait, most (if not all) of the stars are Eldritch Abominations that want to eat us? And some of them can create avatars of their powers called Star Spawn?

* [[Spiritual Licensee]]: [[Krull]] was ''going'' to be an official D&D movie, but lost the license partway through development.

* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: It has happened for every edition change. Some might argue that 4E most of all, but veteran D&D players would point out that it only seems that way due to the much wider availability of the Internet. Interesting to note is that this is now happening WITHIN 4th Edition itself. Wizards has started to release errata/updates every few months, usually to stop overpowered exploits (although sometimes for other purposes too). Naturally, people have either declared it to be the best thing since sliced bread, or threatened to stop playing D&D. And with a new edition in the works, expect to see this ''yet again!''

* [[What Measure Is a Non-Badass?]]: 4th edition is very much geared towards heroic fantasy with the default assumption that the character is a badass, to the extent that it is mechanically difficult to create a character who is actually ''bad'' in an ability (as against 'average'). Likewise you can't really model an entirely green character who has picked up a sword for the first time as even a level 1 character can call upon fairly formidable powers.

 

 

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