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==== Monk ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]
 
==== Paladin ====
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==== Divine Mind ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: A very poorly designed class, even from a flavor standpoint.
 
==== Erudite ====
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==== Healer ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: Due to its limited ability to do anything but heal, Healers tend to get a poor reputation.
** [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Giving them access to Sanctified Spells from the Book of Exalted Deeds gives them a fair amount of additional options in combat other than healing (which is perfectly legal by the rules of Sanctified Spells, as Healers are all good-aligned spellcasters who [[Vancian Magic|prepare their spells]]).
 
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==== Lurk ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: While it is a Rogue with psychic powers, the Psychic Rogue is considered better due to not having class features that rely on Psionic Focus. This class is still pretty good, but most people will point you towards the Psychic Rogue.
 
==== Psion / Psionicist ====
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==== Samurai ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: The Samurai is like the Fighter, but with less options.
** The Lawful over Good trait was another [[Sarcasm Mode|''popular'' class feature]].
*** Even worse: A [[TW Fing]] Ranger outclasses a Complete Warrior Samurai. At least the Oriental Adventures one was decent!
 
==== Shadowcaster ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: The early levels are murder on a Shadowcaster. They aren't too powerful late-game either, but they are still capable of contributing to the party.
 
==== Soulborn ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: It ends up being the worst of the three Meldshapers. It's even weaker than a Core Paladin!
 
==== Soulknife ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: Because you can't enchant a Mind Blade like you can a physical weapon, a Soulknife tends to do less damage than a fighter of equal level.
** Also, see Samurai, "less options". Having the Whirlwind Attack feat without the [[Awesome Yet Impractical|ridiculous prerequisites]] is neat, though.
 
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== 4th Edition Classes ==
==== Battlemind ====
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: The way ''Blurred Step'' and ''Mind Spike'' originally worked didn't make the battlemind a very good defender. This has been mostly relieved with the July 2010 errata.
 
 
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** Graz'zt is the [[Faux Affably Evil]] demon lord of hedonism and other such things (and somewhat appropriately keeps a large slave harem), and runs an empire that basically revolves around torture and slavery. Demogorgon is an [[Ax Crazy]] maniac. Orcus is a god wannabe who wants to turn the afterlife into hell [[For the Evulz]]. They're all pretty much the same.
** Chaotic evil dragons come across as somewhat more evil than the lawful evil ones. Blue and green dragons, for all their faults, [[Even Evil Has Loved Ones|genuinely care about their mates and offspring]] (well, usually). The same cannot be said for black, white and red dragons.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Meepo the Kobold in 3rd Edition. This little lizard-dude, originally just a kill-it-for-stuff encounter in the adventure ''The Sunless Citadel'', was so popular that he made an appearance as an NPC in at least one other adventure, featured in a web-exclusive article in which he became a [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|half-dragon were-velociraptor]], and got whisked away to [[D 20D20 Modern|another dimension]] in which he obtained a magical pump-action shotgun. Truly, Meepo is the pinnacle of koboldian awesomesauce. He even makes a cameo in d20 modern.
** As far as races go, the [[Mechanical Lifeforms|Warforged]] from ''[[Eberron]]'' were '''very''' well received. The [[Beast Man|Shifters]] were also well-liked, but not as much as the Warforged.
*** As a matter of fact, these two races ([[And Zoidberg|and Changelings]]) were put in as monsters in the first 4E Monster Manual, and Shifters were introduced as a playable race in the second 4e Player's Handbook. Warforged were made playable in any setting thanks to a free(!) Dragon article on Wizards' official site.
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** Certain builds were able to incur ''trillions'' of damage in one attack, at range. One low-level spell with a specific combination of metamagic feats would raze anything and everything in a 10-mile radius to the ground. And then there's Pun-Pun, a level ''one'' kobold with inifinite stats who can reach infinitely far, including across the planes, and can cast any and every spell an infinite number of times per day. Did I mention this kobold is more of a god (infinite divine ranks) than the actual gods?
** Essentials. Not in-and-of themselves, mind you, and not so much if you're in an all-Essentials group, but consider the following. Prior to the release of Essentials, basic attacks were just that, basic. They were usually the weakest hitting things for damage dealers, and didn't have all the cool effects other powers did. Thus, classes such as Bards, Warlords and the like which gave out basic attacks like candy would only marginally influence the tide of battle. Now enter the Essentials, which are based around improving or replacing basic attacks: [[BFS|Slayers]] that wield 2-handed weapons that deal as much as 4 weapon damage on a single basic attack; [[Dual-Wielding|Scouts]] that get granted one melee attack and are suddenly making 3 or more of them; latter additions give us Vampires that effectively become unkillable as long as they keep hitting, and the Bladesinger that adds a burst of various magical damage each time he hits. Yikes.
* [[Tier -Induced Scrappy]]: 3.5 Monks are noted for getting many abilites that are either done better with spells gotten much quicker (over 20 levels they get the ability to reduce fall damage, that's a first level spell for a caster or 2000 gold for everyone else) and don't synergize at all (Monks have one ability that makes them move fast, and another that requires them to stand still) to the point that when asked to optimize a Monk, most suggestions are to play another class. Truenamers also get a ''lot'' of flack for getting ''[[Game Breaking Bug|weaker as they level up]]'' as they need to meet an (already hard check) with a requirement that goes up by 2 each level, but you only get + 1 to make the check a level (Soulknife and CW Samurai also fall into this for similar reasons, but Monk gets the worst because it is "core" and part of the base game and truenamer is just that... [[Egregious]]).
** Complete Warrior Samurai deserves special mention in that is the absolute lowest Tier. In original outline of the various Tiers, CW Samurai is so low that it is actually ranked lower than Expert, an NPC-only class with versatile skill selection and ''no class features.'' There is literally nothing that a Samurai can do that a Fighter (already considered one of the lowest tiered classes) cannot do better ''while simultaneously doing many other things better than the Samurai.''
** Most of the Far-East themed classes from the ''Complete'' series were this way. Shugenja had ''incredibly'' limited spell selection to the point that the player chose very little of his character's core abilities. The fact that they were Divine casters (and thus able to cast in armor) was negated by their lack of armor proficiency and by having the worst Base Attack Bonus in the game (for comparison, most Divine casters get the medium Base Attack and medium or heavy armor proficiency). Wu Jen had weaker casting than wizards, and their "Spell Secret" class feature left them [[Blessed Withwith Suck]] as it gave them free metamagic feats at the cost of crippling RP restrictions (each one came with a "taboo" that shut off the character's spell casting for the day if violated. And the metamagic feats weren't even the good ones!), meaning it holds the dubious honor of being the only class where Prestiging out is the only way to ''avoid crippling drawbacks.''
*** ''[[Beyond the Impossible|Every freaking class in the 5e playtest]]'' is subject to his. [[The Medic|Clerics]] have been reduced to useless healbots, and [[Fragile Speedster|Rogues]] and [[Mighty Glacier|Fighters]] have been made completely and utterly worthless. Wizards are the high-tier version of this trope since they're ''the only ones who actually can survive a fight''. Apparently, the reason Wizards are so over-powered in the playtest is because Mike Mearls encourages the [[Fandom Rivalry]] between close combat classes and spell-slinging classes when he claimed "fighters are for morons, Wizards are for smart players."
 
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* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: The impressions some fundamentalist Christians tend to have of ''D&D'' and [[Bibleman|what Hank's voice actor went on to do]] a few years down the road.
* [[Too Good to Last]]: Looking back on this show as an adult, it was surprisingly mature for its time, and some episodes are genuinely powerful. Just ask any fan about "The Dragon's Graveyard".
** [[Fair for Its Day|Good For Its Day]]: Unlike most other [[Merchandise-Driven]] [[The Eighties|80's cartoons]] such as ''[[He -Man and Thethe Masters of Thethe Universe]]'', ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' ''[[Transformers Generation One1]]'' and ''[[Thunder CatsThundercats]]'', this show actually had [[Character Development]] and strong writing behind it, much like ''[[The Real Ghostbusters]]''. A decade or so later, ''Transformers'' would receive a well-made [[Beast Wars|sequel series]] featuring many of ''Dungeons & Dragons''' strengths. Another decade later, and [[Transformers Animated|well]]-[[Transformers Prime|written]] [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003|80's]] [[G.I. Joe: Renegades|cartoon]] [[Thundercats 2011|reboots]] would become commonplace.
 
=== From the film ===
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* [[Fridge Logic]]: The Emperess attack with a flock of Golden Dragons, a.k.a. Fire monsters. The wizards counterattack with... fireballs and Red Dragons!? So, you're attacking a creature immune to fire with fire!? WTF!?
* [[Ham and Cheese]]: Irons just revels in [[Chewing the Scenery]] here, and is considered the only good part of the film for some.
** So much so that [[That Guy With theThe Glasses]] says this very phrase when describing Irons' performance.
*** Related to TGWTG, [[Paw Dugan]] played Profion in ''[[Suburban Knights]]''... and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iTZSS2gefk was] [http://twitter.com/#!/cosmicbushell/status/85800292934885376 dead-on]!
** This film also contains Richard O'Brien. This is notable for one very significant reason: he is ''the most understated actor in the whole film''. Think about that for a minute.
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