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Typically leads to [[A World Half Full]] situation.
 
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== Literature ==
 
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* ''[http://misspentyouthgame.com/ Misspent Youth]'' by Robert Bohl attempts to deal with this trope by making the Dystopia local and relevant to the lives of teenagers. During Dystopia creation, the group creates Systems of Control that are technological ways The Authority has to mess with your lives.
* ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]''. The Imperium of man not only has to fight off external threats against its worlds, it also has to govern them. With the Imperium so huge and bloated, this requires thousands of administrators and governors to deal with the day-to-day tasks of each planet, but they also need to put down constant rebellions, internal threats, and look out for possible invasions. The Imperium also has a hard time communicating with worlds that are millions of light years away from each other, meaning that they have no idea that they might be investing money in worlds that are already dead, or that their reinforcements are too late to arrive.
** Indeed, it seems that the Imperium manages to survive mostly because it's so large that its exponential growth surpasses its exponential decay. Barely. Or maybe its just so large that it's going to take a few centuries to get all the way to dead.
** However, the hardness comes from [[Failure Is the Only Option|losing constantly to various xenos races and Chaos]].
** Generally, however, it varies. Some places are real shitholes, being heavily polluted, or just plain unpleasant. Others, not so much. The planet Merosa, for instance, is described as a planet where billions of serfs mine every day, while despots rule through might in arms, while Macgragge is described as being a generally pleasant place to live, not unlike England, or France. This is because the Imperium knows it cannot run its billions of worlds, so it just leaves them to get on with it. As long an you venerate the God Emperor, pay your taxes, and don't trade or deal with Xenos, they don't really ''give'' a shit.
* ''[[Paranoia (game)|Paranoia]]'' attempts to avert this trope by saying that it is not a setting but a place of mind. The XP rulebook also claims that the horrific conditions in Alpha Complex is still probably far better than, say, being a beggar on "Calcutta or Lagos or the South Bronx" (people are happy, everyone is employed, and there is mandatory leisure time).
 
== Western Animation ==
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* The reign of homicidal maniac [[The Caligula|Caligula]] was followed by the more moderate and successful reign of Claudius, following the former's assassination when his guard found his rule unbearable, though Claudius was at least initially treated as a puppet emperor.
* North Korea was able to survive after Kim Il-Sung finally died of heart attack, but it still plays it straight: the country is utterly crippled by its excessive military spending, with the result that its military is thriving while everyone else tries to get by on what remains. The capital Pyongyang is the only city that gets any real help from the government, everywhere else barely has enough of what is needed.
** At least some reports suggest there has been mass starvation in North Korea in the past fifteentwenty years, with hundreds of thousands—or more—deaths resulting.
*** Also, don't forget the "[[Human Resources|long pork]]". All of that [[Sarcasm Mode|wonderful, wonderful]] [[No Party Like a Donner Party|long pork]].
** It is important to note that the Communist state of North Korea has managed to endure without any real institutional change, which should go as an example of just how much a government can get away with so long as it maintains the support of the military and keeps the population so repressed that organized opposition is impossible. However, North Korea's policies and lack of reform do mean that it is heavily reliant on aid from the outside world (including its enemies the U.S and South Korea ironically) to survive.
** North Korea's international economic strategy at this point is essentially to [[Batman Gambit|extort the rest of the world into sending aid to its populace by threatening to kill them, then intercepting and selling the shipments]], [[Crapsack World|while using the populace as human shields to ward off potential invasion and buying off the countries that wouldn't care as much about the collateral damage]].
** It has been [https://web.archive.org/web/20120126123852/http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/09/21/324835/nothing-to-envy/ argued] that North Korea survives because the ''rest of the world doesn't want it to collapse'': China fears that a collapse would bring millions of refugees in its northern provinces as well as ultimately leading to a US-aligned unified Republic of Korea on its' border, South Korea fears the logistical nightmare that re-assimilating the North would create and the rest of the world fear [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|creating an even worse humanitarian catastrophe by letting the regime fall]]. At this point, North Korea may not even ''need'' to bully the rest of the world into keeping it on life support: [[Thanatos Gambit|the feared consequences of its regime's death]] [[Vetinari Job Security|have become a threat by themselves.]]
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* The only reason [[Nazi Germany]] lasted as long as it did was because [[Adolf Hitler]] was very, very good at convincing people to ignore logic and observable evidence, and because the loot from invaded countries all went to Germany. By the end of [[World War II]], the economy and government was in shambles. Even if Germany had won, the regime probably would not have lasted very long, especially once there was no longer a war to distract people's attention.
** Nazi Germany only really functioned in two modes: preparing for a war and fighting a war. Repeat. End result; the "thousand-year Reich" lasted 13 years.
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* [[To Get Rich Is Glorious|Modern China]] is a very strange aversion. During Mao's rule, the country was an authoritarian ''and'' unstable hellhole against which North Korea actually compared favourably. After Mao died, those left in the system figured that if they don't [[Bread and Circuses|keep the populace fed and happy]] and focus on development rather than knocking around for a global revolution, they would not last long. [[Magnificent Bastard|Deng Xiaoping]] ensured that those with a stake in the old system had a stake in the new system too. The result? The authoritarian system Mao placed survived, but evolved into become something less dystopian, significantly more stable and infinitely more pragmatic (keeping in mind that [[Banned in China|some]] [[Gaia's Lament|problems]] [[Apathetic Citizens|persist]]). One could say that China is a [[Police State]] that tries make an authoritarian dystopia work by trimming the harder bits out, to the point where some people might wonder if it is even a dystopia.
** China exists by being too large and making enough money to fund things so it can survive along with actually encouraging tourism unlike many dictatorships. There are massive problems but China is even larger
*Even the evilest of evil empires manage to not be quite dystopic simply because of geographical strains and administrative limits. Even Stalin could not quite hurt a random goatherding village up in the Urals unless for some odd reason he conceived a particular grudge against it.
 
 
== Troper Works ==
* [[Soundscape (Darth Wiki)|Soundscape]] has a very depressing aversion. To put it mildly, imagine that there was a system of governance that was designed to be corrupt. Its very purpose, by design and default, is to screw over the poor and middle working classes, while benefiting the rich. The blame is often set upon the practitioners (which they deserve), but how can you defeat a system that's ''supposed'' to screw you over, unless you're part of the top 1%?
** Meanwhile, the Syndicracy is in the same boat as North Korea; their collapse is a threat that's become a ''fear'', because of consequences that could lead to an even worse state than it already is in. [[Mega Corp|As horrific]] [[Morally-Bankrupt Banker|as they are]] [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|and beyond]], they provide the means for most of the superpowers to remain ''as'' superpowers, and if they fall, so too shall the rest of the verse. Note that these guys are also the ones that came up with the aforementioned "pro-top 1%" system above.
*** The problem is that things are so fucked up you would find anarchists and the like who would still revolt
 
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