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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Those for and against him alike can't quite figure out whether he "really means it" or not. He's generally more intelligent and sensitive than his loudest detractors would admit, but still angrier and sicker than his younger fans' parents would like.
* [[Award Snub]]: The Marshall Mathers LP got awards left and right and is widely regarded as one of the best rap albums ever. Yet when it came time to award the Grammy for Album of the Year, it had two acclaimed rock albums to combat: [[Steely Dan (Music)|Steely Dan]]'s ''Two Against Nature'' and [[Radiohead (Music)|Radiohead]]'s ''Kid A''. The Academy chose the Steely Dan album, apparently because it was a safer choice than a rap album or an experimental rock album.
** Inversely, at least early in his mainstream career, he seemed to win awards in rap categories by default.
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]
* [[Bile Fascination]]: This is how he got a lot of his early audience, since he started his career in that transition period where people were getting tired of Gangsta Rap but hadn't fully embraced Crunk/Club Rap yet. He tended to alternate between [[Dead Baby Comedy]] and songs about killing women, and stuff you could dance to or was meant to be remixed.
* [[Complete Monster]]: At his worst, Slim Shady.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Despite his rude behavior, calling [[Christina Aguilera (Music)|Christina Aguilera]] a whore for having the audacity to think writing a song about killing your wife was distasteful, and his homophobic and sexist lyrics (at least, how a lot of people interpreted them to be), he was still one of the top artists of the '00s and loved by teenage girls. He isn't at all villainous, however he is a controversial figure to most who just can't understand the overlooking.
** To be fair, she was making assumptions about something she knew nothing about and it wasn't her place to put his business out there.
** He lampshades this in the lyrics for "The Real Slim Shady":
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Walking around, grabbin' his you-know-what/Flippin' the you-know-who<br />
Yeah, but he's so cute though..." }}
* [[Dude, Not Funny]]: [[Michael Jackson (Music)|Michael Jackson]] did not take well towards Eminem making fun of him in his ''Just Lose It'' music video. The backlash even resulted in B.E.T. pulling the video from airwaves.
* [[Ear Worm]]: Put on an Eminem song - ''any'' Eminem song. Chances are it stays stuck in your head for days and days.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Many people who like Eminem, but can't stand rap in general, making him an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] for the entire rap genre.
** He commonly overshadows other artists such as [[Rihanna (Music)|Rihanna]], [[Lil Wayne (Music)|Lil Wayne]], [[Nicki Minaj (Music)|Nicki Minaj]] and even [[Jay-Z (Music)|Jay-Z]] (Whether Em was actually better on Renegade than Hov can be debated, but the reviews said Em's verse was superior) when collaborating with them. Hell, he outshone [[Kanye West (Music)|Kanye West]], Lil Wayne and [[Drake (Music)|Drake]] all on one song, [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Forever]], Shady was indeed back.
* [[Face of the Band]]: He's the only recognizable member of D12 (though new fans might come to remember Bizarre, who stands out for being The Fat One and having the most ''[[Dead Baby Comedy|out there]]'' lyrics). [[Lampshade Hanging|Lampshaded]] with the D12 song "My Band", in which the other D12 members bitch about the situation (and Em brags about it).
* [[Fan Dumb]]: Related to [[Fandom Rivalry|Fandom Rivalries]]:
** Eminem fans claim that [[Cage (Music)|Cage]] ''ripped Eminem off'', even though [[Did Not Do the Research|this doesn't make any sense]]. Logically, since the two rappers debuted at the same and only have a ''slight'' similarity, via being from separate rap scenes and not having the same influences, it's impossible for either one to have ripped each other off; while Cage made claims that Eminem ripped him off early in his career, he has since retracted these claims for the reason that they make no logical sense. Likewise, it's equally impossible for him to have ripped off Eminem.
** [[Esham (Music)|Esham]]'s "acid rap" style was a main source of influence for Eminem. When Esham insulted Eminem for "biting" his style, Eminem [[Fan Dumb]] responded by insulting Esham and claiming not to have heard of Esham, even though ''The Slim Shady LP'' had Eminem calling himself a cross between [[Marilyn Manson (Music)|Manson]], Esham and [[Ozzy Osbourne (Music)|Ozzy Osbourne]].
* [[Fandom Rivalry]]: Eminem fans vs. the fans of pretty much anyone who has ever feuded with Eminem, including [[Juggalo|Juggalos]], [[Cage (Music)|Cage]] fans, [[House of Pain (Music)|Everlast]] fans, [[Esham (Music)|Esham]] fans, etc.
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: Encore's "One Shot 2 Shot" has Em and D12 rapping about a shooting at a D12 concert. Proof's death two years later made this song even scarier than it already was, and Proof's line "Believe me, I'm leavin' a carcass today" makes the impact even worse.
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: [http://www.mtv.com/videos/eminem/39589/like-toy-soldiers.jhtml#artist=502642 The video] for ''Like Toy Soldiers'' (released in early 2005 as a single), which depicts Proof dying of gunshot wounds. Proof was shot to death about a year later.
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** Most of his songs about partying and drugs, especially "Drug Ballad", become this in light of his overdose.
{{quote| '''BBC Radio 1''': "This is not an autobiographical lyric [...] It's one of Eminem's flights of fancy, albeit one into a very real situation. Clearly he understands the psychology well, and can express the feelings with enormous clarity. Rihanna's role in all of this is interesting though."}}
* [[He Really Can Act (Sugar Wiki)|He Really Can Act]]: In ''[[Eight8 Mile (Film)|Eight Mile]]''.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Memorably in the Dr. Dre song "What's the Difference", "I love you dawg." Though he did mean it in a father-son sort of way. Him and [[Fifty Cent (Music)|Fifty Cent]] though...
** Also in "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "All this time me and Dre have been fuckin' with hats off!"
** Retroactively taken to new levels with Proof in several songs on ''Recovery'', most notably "You're Never Over". Apparently they had pet names for each other...
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You stayed the same, cause cock backwards is still cock you pricks<br />
I love it when I tell em shove it <br />
''([[Todd in Thethe Shadows (Web Video)|"And in conclusion... penis, penis, penis."]])'' }}
* [[Hype Aversion]]: More cynical listeners believe Eminem's success is 30% talent and 70% because he's white, and that critics treat him as if he single-handedly invented hip-hop.
** In some interviews (and stated in "White America) he kinda agrees with that cynical opinion.
* [[Jumping the Shark]]: For those who believe his drug addiction killed his rap talent permanently.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** "Where the fuck is [[Kanye West (Music)|Kanye West]] when you need him? Snatch the mike from 'em, bitch, Imma let you finish..."
** In some corners of the internet, 'stan' and 'stanning' are terms for hardcore fanning. Mostly used in jest.
*** A lot of those places have been using it so long that the original meaning/origin is often completely unknown to people.
*** Many rappers have referred to Eminem's "Stan", like [[Nas (Music)|Nas]] on "[[Take That|Eth]][[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|er]]" (you a fake, a phony, a Stan) and [[Lupe Fiasco (Music)|Lupe Fiasco]] on "[[Pun-Based Title|Lu Myself]]" (Like Stan, I'mma stand till it answers me).
* [[Misaimed Fandom]] / [[Comically Missing the Point]]: "Stan" has become a term to describe [[I'm Your Biggest Fan|sick, obsessed fans]]... and Eminem's fandom.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:
** An MTV Brazil VJ said that watching ''Cleaning Out My Closet'' (which features Eminem burying his mother) while pregnant is really unsettling.
** "'97 Bonnie And Clyde" (AKA ''[[Refrain From Assuming|Just the Two of Us]]''). It's one of his most haunting songs, sung from the point of view of a father to his daughter after murdering his wife for infidelity. He has his little daughter help him unload the dead wife from the trunk of his car and dump her corpse in a lake. Then [[Tori Amos (Music)|Tori Amos]] released a cover on her album ''Strange Little Girls'', sung from the murdered wife's point of view, that is somehow even ''worse''.
** "Kim", the prequel to "'97 Bonnie & Clyde". The song isn't so much rapped as screamed between Eminem and his impression of Kim. It starts out innocently enough with Em watching Hailie sleep, but quickly goes south as he shoves Kim into a car and reveals he's murdered her new boyfriend and their 4-year-old son (lyrics describing this were actually [[Bowdlerise|left off the ''explicit'' version of the album]], even though a later reference to the murder was left in; a truly explicit version called "Bitch So Wrong", which keeps the words intact, has been leaked and is still floating around online). It ends with him slitting her throat in the woods:
{{quote| You were supposed to love me! <br />
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BLEED, BITCH, BLEED! <br />
BLEEEEEEEEEEED! }}
** "Stan" is fairly disturbing. It's about an [[Ax Crazy]] fan who eventually commits a murder-suicide because Shady won't answer any of his fan letters in a timely manner. Especially as the tape is starting to end and you can hear [[Punk in Thethe Trunk|Stan's girlfriend screaming from the trunk]] before the car falls into the water...
* [[Sampled Up]]: Results tend to be [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]], as shown by:
** "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E&ob=av2e Stan]" for Dido's "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TO48Cnl66w&ob=av2n Thank You]".
** "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hAVemuQXY&ob=av2e Sing for the Moment]" for [[Aerosmith (Music)|Aerosmith]]'s "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKuchOdtcFs&feature=related Dream On]".
** "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexLAjh8fPA&ob=av2e Like Toy Soldiers]" for Martika's "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJy46o_7b0&feature=fvst Toy Soldiers]".
** "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM&ob=av2e Beautiful]" for [[Queen (Music)|Queen + Paul Rodgers']] "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77jpbegrqc Reaching Out]".
* [[Sequel Displacement]]: Go ask someone what Eminem's first album was.
* [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]]: For the fans who were disappointed in ''Encore'' and ''Relapse'', ''Recovery'' was a significant step forward in quality. [[Creator Backlash|Given how poorly Eminem thought of the albums himself]] in some ''Recovery'' tracks, he feels the same.
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* [[True Art Is Angsty]]: [[Cracked]] notes [http://www.cracked.com/article_15631_the-10-best-sci-fi-films-never-made_p2.html here] that "As [Eminem] gets his life together his songs sound more and more like remixes and covers of the old ones. He'll never do 'Bonnie & Clyde' again."
* [[Weird Al Effect]]: "Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?" is actually derived from the 1960s/70s game show ''[[To Tell the Truth]]'''s catchphrase "Will the real [person's name] please stand up?", used to reveal the true mystery guest.
* [[WTH? Casting Agency]]: Anybody else thinks it's a little strange to hear him [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETOeWgISQeM on the same song as] [[Paramore (Music)|Hayley Williams]]?
** Considering the popularity of "Airplanes," [[Tropes Are Not Bad|maybe not]].
* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: ''Recovery''.