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** During Marvel's run of ''[[Star Trek]]'' comics in the late-nineties, they put out two issues of a Star Trek/X-Men crossover (one issue with TOS crew, one with the TNG crew), which also spawned a novel. Odds of Storm or Wolverine mentioning that they actually met Captain Kirk or Captain Picard in a recent issue? Yeah right.
** ''Shogun Warriors'', a comic that featured ''[[Combattler V]]'', ''[[Raideen|Brave Raideen]]'', and ''[[Dangard Ace]]''. Not a chance of them showing up ever again...
* The tabletop wargame ''[[Star Fleet Battles]]'' (and its RPG spin-off ''Prime Directive'') is an interesting case; they're only licenced to use elements of ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek the Original Series]]'' and ''[[Star Trek: The Animated Series|Star Trek the Animated Series]]'', but not the actual characters. So in addition to the ''Enterprise'' crew never being directly mentioned, the game is set in an [[Alternate Continuity]] that lacks Cardassians, Borg, Ferengi, and many of the now-established races of [[The Federation]]. On the other hand, it's also the only ''[[Star Trek]]'' spin-off that still uses [[Known Space|the Kzinti]].
* The [[Milestone Comics|Milestone heroes]] were barred from appearing in DC's ''[[Blackest Night]]'' crossover so the company could avoid possible issues with future reprints. The 2011 DC relaunch had [[Static (comics)|Static]] moving to New York, presumably as a way for DC to avoid using the rest of the Dakota-based Milestone heroes. Despite this, Static appeared in ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]'' without much issue, and Rocket and Icon both appear in ''[[Young Justice (animation)|Young Justice]]''.
* DC briefly published a series of titles centered around the Red Circle heroes, who were owned by [[Archie Comics]]. Archie has now regained publishing rights to the characters and will be launching them in their own titles, meaning that DC can no longer use or mention any of the Red Circle characters, even those who interacted with other DC heroes.
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** In 2010, Death appeared in [[Paul Cornell|Paul Cornell's]] ''[[Action Comics]]'' run, with Gaiman's consent and cooperation this time.
* During her run on ''[[Wonder Woman]]'', [[Gail Simone]] was denied permission to use Veronica Cale, a villainess created by [[Greg Rucka]]. Rucka later allowed Keith Giffen to use Veronica as a supporting character in his ''[[Doom Patrol]]'' run.
* Similarly, Simone wasn't allowed to use [[Batgirl (2000 comic book)||Cassandra Cain]] in her ''[[Birds of Prey]]'' run because [[Grant Morrison]] had called dibs on the character for his ''[[Grant Morrisons Batman|Batman Inc.]]'' series. This led to Cass being entirely absent from the DCU for almost a year, much to the ire of her fans.
* ''[[Star Trek: The Animated Series|Star Trek the Animated Series]]'' was struck from continuity by [[Gene Roddenberry]] sometime around the later films or when ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' was getting started, probably because of its more cartoonish elements and a couple of continuity issues. However, there has been a fan backlash (particularly over ''Yesteryear'', TAS' best episode and one which reveals a lot more of Spock's backstory) a couple of references in ''[[Star Trek: Enterprise|Star Trek Enterprise]]''`s [[Continuity Porn]]-laden fourth season, have tried to reverse this.
** Paramount pretty much considers the series to be canon now after a fan poll overwhelmingly favored its inclusion.
** Yet they haven't adopted anything from TAS without a Live Action Canon background (outside of a few random shout-outs)
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* Because of the ways that Marvel sold off the film rights to its characters, it is highly unlikely that you will ever see crossover movies (with an exception to be mentioned below). [[Daredevil (film)|Daredevil]] (licensed by 20th Century Fox) will never be able to be in a crossover movie with [[Spider-Man (film)|Spider-Man]] (licensed by Sony), nor will Spidey ever be able to fight the Kingpin, or see Ben Urich at the Daily Bugle. Wolverine will never be able to tangle with the Hulk, nor will the [[Hulk (film)|Hulk]] be able to fight the Thing. The [[X-Men (film)|X-Men]] (licensed by 20th Century Fox) may conceivably cross over with Daredevil or the [[Fantastic Four (film)|Fantastic Four]] (also licensed by Fox), but really, why would they?
** The major exception to this are characters whose rights remain in Marvel Studios: [[Iron Man]], [[Captain America (comics)]], [[The Hulk]], [[The Mighty Thor]], Nick Fury, and a few other minor characters; all have their solo movie set in the [[Marvel Cinematic Universe]] (apart from Nick, who appears in every film other than ''[[The Incredible Hulk (film)|The Incredible Hulk]]''), to culminate in 2012's ''[[The Avengers (film)|The Avengers]]''.
*** Particular oddballs in the licensing issues are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver who, being equally known in comics as mutants and as Avengers, [https://web.archive.org/web/20120709031311/http://moviepilot.com/395144-avengers-2-what-s-the-deal-with-the-mutants?utm_campaign=quicksilver-in-avengers&utm_source=fb-stream-post&utm_medium=fb-stream-post have their film rights licensed to BOTH Marvel Studios and Fox]; the catch is that Marvel Studios cannot have them be mutants in their films and Fox cannot reference the Avengers through them.
** And, of course, according to the contracts for the above licenses, the rights revert back to Marvel if the third-party holders fail to act on them. This is how they got the rights to Hulk back, because Universal didn't make another in time.
*** Probably the same reason drove Sony to the recent decisions regarding the ''[[Spider-Man (film)|Spider-Man]]'' movies. Since the development of a fourth episode was tangled in [[Development Hell]] and the risk was either losing the license for taking too much time, or rushing to make an extremely disappointing movie (which they'd probably like to avoid after the third), they chose for a [[Continuity Reboot]] starting in 2012.