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{{trope}}
{{quote|'''Strong Bad:''' We're going to play "Where's The Cheat?" Can you say "a The Cheat"?<br />
'''Kids:''' ''(half-coherent)'' The Cheat! ''(One kid says "Christopher Columbus.")''<br />
'''Strong Bad:''' Not good enough, [[Trope Namer|F Minus Minus]].|'''''[[Homestar Runner]]''''', sbemail "for kids"}}
 
The [[Book Dumb]] Bob just turned in his essay. It wasn't just regular bad; it was the ''[[Plan 9 Fromfrom Outer Space]]'' of high school essays. It was so bad ([[Match Game|How bad was it?]]) that it [[Beyond the Impossible|somehow broke literature.]] Obviously, the regular grading scale is not ''extreme'' enough for Bob's horrifying essay, so Bob's teacher pegs his work with a grade completely off the scale: an F Minus Minus.
 
In the United States and some of Western Europe, an F is the lowest grade possible. There are no additions to it, not a plus or minus. F simply means failure, no matter how bad. However, this is not always the case in the world of fiction. Sometimes, the only way to really say "stupid" is to slap a minus on the F and let the rest take care of itself.
 
This trope is for negative grades that go off the scale, from a simple F- all the way down to Z-. A staple of school comedies that don't take themselves particularly seriously. An inversion of [[Rank Inflation]]. Contrast [[The "B" Grade]]. When it's a reviewer doing this, it's [[Broke the Rating Scale]] (Type 1).
 
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* Happens to ''[[Billy Madison]]'' when he answers a question about the industrial revolution with a rambling, incoherent [[Metaphorgotten]] about a lost puppy. The principal grades him thusly:
{{quote| '''Principal:''' Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.}}
 
== Folklore ==
 
* There is an [[Urban Legend]] about a student complaining to his university lecturer about his grade.
{{quote| '''Student:''' I don't think this paper deserves an F.<br />
'''Lecturer:''' Neither do I, but it is the lowest grade the university will allow me to award. }}
 
== Literature ==
* In ''[[Captain Underpants]] and the Wrath of the Wicked Wedgie Woman'', Ms. Ribble tells George and Harold she's lowering their grades to Fs and Gs.
{{quote| '''George:''' Oh, ''NO''! Not Fs and Gs! ...Hey, what's a G?<br />
'''Ms. Ribble:''' It's the only grade lower than an F!<br />
'''Harold:''' There's no such grade as a G.<br />
'''Ms. Ribble:''' There is now, bub! }}
* ''[[Harry Potter]]'': Students taking their OWLs can receive grades of O, E, A, P, D, and T ([[The Smart Guy|Outstanding]], [[Smarter Than You Look|Exceeds Expectations]], [[So Okay It's Average|Acceptable]], [[Book Dumb|Poor]], [[The Fool|Dreadful]], and [[Too Dumb to Live|Troll]]). When Harry first hears of the T grade, he thinks [[Those Two Guys|Fred and/or George]] might be pulling his leg (i.e. [[Incredibly Lame Pun|trolling]] him), but there it is listed among the others on the form. Even Hermione, who normally seems to know all about such things, seems initially surprised by the existence of this grade.
* In ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]]: Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers'', Rimmer usually gets F for Fail on the officer exam, but on two occasions he got X for Unclassifiable; the first time he just collapsed from amphetamine usage, but the second time sheer panic led to him denying his own existence so he wrote "I am a fish" five hundred times. The exam we see involves him leaving an inky handprint on the paper and then fainting, but no-one ever gets a chance to grade it.
* At the end of the picture book ''Bronto Eats Meat'', by Peter Maloney and Felicia Zekauskas, the protagonist of the story writes a school report about Bronto and is given an F- because his report is said to be not realistic.
 
== Live Action TV ==
 
* Jeff and Pierce's [[Community (TV)/Recap/S1 /E02 Spanish 101|acted-out Spanish presentation]] on ''[[Community (TV)|Community]]'' earns a grade of F (Pierce) and F- (Jeff).
* On ''[[Smart Guy]]'', TJ tutors a basketball player. After taking the test, the student claims he got a G, which he says is worse than an F, but it turns out it was actually a C-.
* In one episode of ''[[That's So Raven]]'', Eddie raps at a bully, "''Your grades are so low, you get straight Zs!''"
* ''[[X -Play]]'' refused to rate [[Big Rigs Over the Road Racing]] because their scale doesn't go below 1.
** They later gave E.T. a 0 based on its disastrous effect on the industry.
** Review website Netjak ''changed their code'' so they could give ''Big Rigs'' a 0. The old lowest score of 1 wouldn't do its [[So Bad ItsIt's Horrible|lack of quality]] justice.
** Pokemon Channel was given a 1 out of 5, but they later said it should've been left unscored since it too wasn't technically a game.
* [[The State]] advertised the fact that the New York Times gave them a negative two stars.
* ''[[Boy Meets World]]'''s Mr. Feeny once threatened to give a student a G for turning in a paper late.
* In one episode of ''[[Saved Byby the Bell]]'', Kelly gets an F from a teacher and asks him if she really deserved that. His response is "No, but they don't allow us to give you an N."
 
 
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== New Media ==
* In [[Atop the Fourth Wall (Web Video)|Linkara]]'s review of ''Newmen'' #1, he references an F ''Triple'' Minus.
* ''[[Spill]]'' has the unofficial "F**K YOU!" rating, which is worse than the official "Some Ole Bulls**t" rating. The two most notable out of all their audio and video reviews that "earned" that rating: ''[[Seltzer and Friedberg|Disaster Movie]]'' (the first to receive it) and ''[[Vampires Suck (Film)|Vampires Suck]]'' (the latter which had the "honor" of having the first uncensored video review, as well as the shortest; though the original audio review elaborated on it).
* [[Dread Central]] reviewer Scott Foy's "FUCK THIS MOVIE" rating. It's especially significant since Foy doesn't use profanity often so when one of his reviews contains the phrase (and now rating) "Fuck this movie" it means that the film in question is ''really'' bad.
 
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* In one ''Squirt'' strip, Squirt's homework was so bad that his teacher extended the alphabet 15 letters past Z in order to aware him an accurate grade.
* From German comic ''Haiopeis'':
{{quote| '''Fish university clerk:''' You got 2 of 2158 points in your last entry test.<br />
'''[[The Ditz|Shark]]:''' Great, that's the highest I've ever gotten! When can I start to [[Malaproper|stupidy]]?<br />
'''Fish clerk:''' Why study? That was our entry test for the cleaning staff. }}
* In one ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' comic, Susie is happy with the smiley face sticker she got on her test. Calvin however is less than thrilled. When she asks what he got, he refused to tell her, leading her to accuse him of getting a frowny face sticker. Calvin promptly denies it, then comments to himself that he never knew they even ''made'' [[Crowning Moment of Funny|barfing face stickers]].
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== Video Games ==
* In the flash game [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/229014 Stick Avalanche 2], you can get grades of F-, F-- and F---.
* In ''[[LuigisLuigi's Mansion (Video Game)|Luigis Mansion]]'', the lowest grade is H (meaning the mansion is replaced with a little tent), although you have to try to do that badly. There are even a few Let's Plays of the game with the [[Minimalist Run|goal of finishing with an H.]]
** The same is true of the first generation of 5-key ''[[Beatmania]]'' games.
* ''[[Cross Edge (Video Game)|Cross Edge]]'' has [[Rank Inflation|battle rank evaluations]] that go in descending order from S, to A, B, C, D, E and F, and keep going to G, H, ''I''...
* In ''[[Zork: Grand Inquisitor]]'', if you read the grade report on the bulletin board in G.U.E. Tech, you'll see that the titular Grand Inquisitor got a Z- in magic due to his Magic Deficit Disorder. A few others on this page got Z's, but not one got a Z ''minus''!
* In ''Confidential Mission'', shooting civilians and using continues subtract from your score. As shown in the [[Attract Mode]] tutorial, it is possible to have a negative score; if achieved, ''your score turns red.''
* Most 3d [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] Games have the "E" rank which is basically saying you did really horribly. It's most evident in [[Sonic Unleashed]] where getting an E-rank causes the grade to ''go tumbling off'' and has Sonic falling down and asking to try again. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yODLkaF8F-Y&feature=related Even the music knows how epically you failed!]
* In the flash game [[N]], your score for each episode of 5 levels is how much [[Timed Mission|time]] you had left at the end. You start at 90 seconds and can gain more time by collecting gold. The game also records your best individual level scores, which are the times you'd have left at the end of them if you'd started at 90 seconds - and allows you to play back your best runs. So if you have more than 90 seconds to start a level, you can get a negative score for the level. If this happens, your score shows up as "---.---" and you won't be able to replay yourself completing that level. (You still can for the whole episode.)
* In the [[Fallout: New Vegas]] DLC pack Old World Blues, this is what Richie Marcus's (Dr. Borous' High School bully) grades are listed as in the replica high school.
 
 
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== Web Comics ==
* ''[[The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob]]''— in a [[Shout -Out]] to ''[[Peanuts]],'' Jean is seen grading papers, and one by "Patty" has a Z minus. The paper next to it gets a [[Programming Language|C plus plus.]]
 
 
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== Western Animation ==
* In the ''[[Dave the Barbarian]]'' episode "Rite of Pillage", Dave receives grades of F and F- on first two tests, Battle Cry and [[Heh Heh, You Said "X"|Laying]] [[Toilet Humor|Waste]] respectively. After failing his third test, Plundering, his examiner becomes furious at his performance.
{{quote| '''Pillage Master:''' Oh there must be something lower than F-. (''furiously scribbles "Z" over and over again on Dave's report card'') Z!!! ''Z!!!'' Z! Z! Z! Z! Z!...'}}
* Parodied as well as [[The "B" Grade]] in ''[[Futurama]]'':
{{quote| Wernstrom: I give your invention the worst grade imaginable: an A-minus-''minus''!}}
* [[Fairly Oddparents|Timmy Turner]] has a history of getting these.
{{quote| "Hey! There's a D in here!"}}
* In an ''[[Arthur (Animationanimation)|Arthur]]'' episode, Buster worried about get an "F" on an assignment he did wrong and Arthur quipped that he could even get a "G" or an "H".
* In the ''[[Jimmy Neutron]]'' episode "Sheen's Brain", Sheen gets [[Up to Eleven|FOUR]] minuses on a test. One of the things he wrote down was that [[You Fail History Forever|Ultralord was the first president of the United States]].
{{quote| '''Jimmy and Carl:''' Quadruple F MINUS?!}}
* ''[[The Emperor's New School (Animation)|The Emperors New School]]'' episode "Kuzclone" has the eponymous clone flunk Kuzco's tests so badly he gets a G-.
* ''[[The Powerpuff Girls (Animation)|The Powerpuff Girls]]'': When Mojo Jojo starts teaching a linguistics class, he hears everyone and tells everyone that based on what he's already heard he would give them an F, then he goes in a rant where he says he would give them all a Z if the scale when down that low (he also asks why they skip E).
* Discussed in ''[[The Weekenders]]''.
* ''[[Beetlejuice (Animationanimation)|Beetlejuice]]'' gets a G, Q, and Z when he's forced to go back to school.
* Otto of ''[[Rocket Power]]'' gets in trouble with his dad for earning a "check minus minus" in Classroom Citizenship.
* On ''[[The Jetsons]]'', Elroy gets his report card switched with a student who gets an H.
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* On an episode of ''[[Muppet Babies]]'' where the characters were pretending to go to school, Piggy ends up giving Gonzo a "W" on his report card. Although it more than likely stood for "weird" and Gonzo was very pleased with his marks.
* In an episode of ''[[Kids Next Door]],'' Numbuh One recieves a Double F Minus for a report. In a later episode, Numbuh Five gets a Double F Minus for claiming a dog ate her homework (which actually happened), and then warned by the teacher that it is possible to get a '''Triple''' F Minus in her class.
* In ''[[Whatever Happened to... Robot Jones?]]'', everyone in the class got an F, some getting an F-, one getting an F'''[[Downplayed Trope|+]]''', and the title character--thecharacter—the only passing person in the class--gettingclass—getting a [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|C-]], and proceeding to go out of his way to negotiate with the scantron to get a better grade because it was "below average".
 
 
== Other ==
* [http://www.zazzle.com/f_student_t_shirt-235350529424621463 This shirt.]
* The ''[[Men in Black (Filmfilm)|Men in Black]]'' ride at Universal Studios caps off the ride with Agent J rating your car's score. Do badly enough and he'll give you a G. And that's only because he can't give you an H. [[Overly Long Gag|And if he could he'd give you a Q.]]
 
 
== Real Life ==
* In England and Wales, in addition to the normal set of grades, it's possible to receive a 'U' (unclassified) at both GCSE and A-level. This can mean you didn't score highly enough to be offered a certificate. While GCSEs have eight grades in total, they are actually a subversion -- yousubversion—you can only actually attain five of the grades, depending on which paper you choose to sit. The 'higher' paper allows you to get grades A* to D, while the 'foundation' paper covers grades C to G. If you don't do well enough to get the minimum grade attainable on either paper you get a 'U'. If you don't even bother to sit through the exam then you get an X.
* In Ireland, you can also be "awarded" an NG, which stands for <s> [[Sarcasm Mode|Natural Genius]]</s> No Grade, meaning that you performed so badly that you don't even deserve an F.
* Most US universities allow a grade of "I", meaning "incomplete." However, this is usually just a temporary placeholder, indicating the student has a certain amount of time to make up for missed work. If that is not done then the grade converts to an F.
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*** Except that in some (most?) schools it counts as a neutral grade, i.e. no effect on GPA, no penalty other than wasting part of your tuition for that term. Otherwise it'd just be the same as a normal "F"!
*** If you really screw up badly before or after midterms, some professors will encourage you to withdraw from the class since you stand no chance of getting enough high grades to make the final grade of the class a passing grade. A W is always better than having an F.
** "X" meant "No Basis for Grade". This happened when the professor forgot the reason a student registered for a class and awarded this grade, requiring intervention from the campus omsbuds.
** Most standardized tests with a grading system will have some kind of "ungraded" designation, like the "hyphen" on the AP exams, which is what you get if, for instance, you leave the multiple-choice section blank and draw a rocket ship on the essay paper.
* In Hong Kong, there is also [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_Hong_Kong:Academic grading in Hong Kong#Hong_Kong_Certificate_of_Education_Examination_and_Hong_Kong_Advanced_Level_ExaminationHong Kong Certificate of Education Examination and Hong Kong Advanced Level Examination|a "U" (or "UNCL", as known as Unclassified) grade]] which is considered [[Fate Worse Than Death|worse than an "F"]]. You'll get this grade if you write/draw anything irrelevant to the exam, or turning in a blank paper.
* There is, in some Canadian Universities, the FD. Fail with Dishonesty. You plagiarized or cheated in one way or another, [[No Fair Cheating|and you get this S.O.B on your record]].
** At the [http://ugradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/page/uWaterloo-Grading-System University of Waterloo], it was once possible (before 2001) to get a literal "F-minus" grade for anything 34% and below. Now they just use percentage grades for everything.
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