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{{trope}}
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{{quote|''"[[Final Fantasy VIII]] sucks and you suck for liking it!"''
|'''Noah "''[[The Spoony Experiment|The Spoony One]]''" Antwiler'''}}
To some people, there is only one thing worse than anything they consider
In a nutshell, a
▲To some people, there is only one thing worse than anything they consider horrible -- people ''liking it''.
The thing is that to these people, art is [[Serious Business]], and they treat their enjoyment of art the way [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|some people]] take to [[Tournament Play|competitive gaming]]. If you like anything not up to their standards, they will either mock you, mock that thing in front of your face, or just go on a diatribe about why you shouldn't like that thing. They also seem to stereotype fans, to make matters worse, such as (anybody whom likes comic books are obese losers; anyone who likes anime is some annoying, anti-American, over-obsessive wannabe Japan-fetishizing freak; people who like cartoons are manchildren; anyone who likes metal/punk is a wannabe tough guy; people who like rap are wangsters; etc.).
▲In a nutshell, a [[Fan Hater]] is someone in a [[Hatedom]], who hates ''not only'' the work, but ''also'' the [[Fandom|fans of that work]].
As a work becomes more popular, the probability of such a group appearing approaches one. Today's media landscape seems to encourage this somewhat, because [[In a World]] where [[Executive Meddling|executives and producers]] seem to believe in [[Quality
▲The thing is that to these people, art is [[Serious Business]], and they treat their enjoyment of art the way [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|some people]] take to [[Tournament Play|competitive gaming]]. If you like anything not up to their standards, they will either mock you, mock that thing in front of your face, or just go on a diatribe about why you shouldn't like that thing. They also seem to stereotype fans, to make matters worse, such as (anybody whom likes comic books are obese losers; anyone who likes anime is some annoying, anti-American, over-obsessive wannabe Japan-fetishizing freak; people who like cartoons are manchildren; anyone who likes metal/punk is a wannabe tough guy; people who like rap are wangsters; etc.). [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]] tend to refer to the targets of their hatred as the "[[Lowest Common Denominator]]" or "unwashed masses".
But others seem to just want to rail against fans simply because they think it makes them superior. This group is comparable to [[Moral Guardians]], only it's their own subjective tastes they are trying to guard. They really love to make up fake stories about how fans are [[Complaining About People Not Liking the Show]]. These kinds of people are a big reason for some people's mentality of [[He Panned It, Now He Sucks]]:
▲As a work becomes more popular, the probability of such a group appearing approaches one. Today's media landscape seems to encourage this somewhat, because [[In a World]] where [[Executive Meddling|executives and producers]] seem to believe in [[Quality By Popular Vote]], and because [[Ratings]] are so important in determining what keeps getting made and what gets [[Screwed By the Network|canceled]], it's easy for fans of one thing that might be on the verge of getting canned to resent the people who are making another work so popular (and thus keeping it on the air), as they blame those fans for their own favorite work's misfortune.
▲But others seem to just want to rail against fans simply because they think it makes them superior. This group is comparable to [[Moral Guardians]], only it's their own subjective tastes they are trying to guard. They really love to make up fake stories about how fans are [[Complaining About People Not Liking the Show]]. These kinds of people are a big reason for some people's mentality of [[He Panned It, Now He Sucks]]: [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]] are always waiting for an opportunity to pounce, and even a single negative critical opinion of something is usually enough to "justify" their "this thing is bad and you should feel bad for liking it" rants. It also contributes to [[Complaining About People Not Liking the Show]]: because there are quite a few [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]] out there, some fans mistake an honest criticism of a work for Fan Hating and get ''[[Disproportionate Retribution|very defensive]]''.
It is a very odd phenomenon, because after all, different people enjoy different things. And maybe they just enjoy it for one reason or another, not because of their sexual orientation, not because of their intelligence, not because they're old or inexperienced, they just happen to like it. But chances are if you like something that's subject to fan haters, expect one of those comments to be thrown at you. It's incredibly rare (at least, [[GIFT|on the internet]]) to see someone who actually acknowledges that maybe you like different things not because you're mentally ill or homosexual or "haven't seen a 'true' something".
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Of course [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|actually being familiar with the works people aren't supposed to like is entirely optional]].
Contrast the inverse, [[Complaining About People Not Liking the Show]], where fans of a show will lambaste you for ''not'' liking it. This activity has also been known to spawn Fan Haters, though in that case, the hate starts with the fans and spreads to the work. Also, when a fan likes the show, but is a
Be warned some may pretend to be fan haters, but are in fact [[Troll
A [[Sub-Trope]] of [[Hatedom]], [[Hate Dumb]], and [[Opinion Myopia]].
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Due to past messes, please avoid [[Take That]] statements, flame bait, "This Troper" blurbs, redundancy and [[Department of Redundancy Department|redundancy]].
* ''4chan'', varying by board.
* ''[[
* The ''Encyclopedia Dramatica''
* ''[[Something Awful]]''
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* ''[[Television Without Pity]]''
* ''[[IMDb]]''
* ''[[
* ''[[YouTube]]''
* ''Outskirts Battledome"
* "Urban Dictionary" was forcibly turned into both an encyclopedia of stereotypes and a fan hating site.
* [[Adaptation Decay]], in that they hate anyone who likes an adaptation that isn't the original version.
* [[Animation Age Ghetto]], in that they hate anyone older than 12 who watches anything animated.
* [[Broken Base]], in that the dissenters will hate the loyalists for not giving up on a particular series.
* [[Comedy Ghetto]]
* [[Dead Horse Music Genre]]
* [[Deader Than Disco]]
* [[Fandom Rivalry]] - In which one fandom hates another fandom, and vice-versa
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* [[Hype Backlash]] - In which they hate a work simply because of the attention it has received or is receiving. A subset hates things that are critically-acclaimed.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]
* [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks]] - In which a work is hated for having mass appeal, selling out and abandoning the "true fans".
* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]] - in which they hate you merely because you like something that they see as the same as something else.
* [[Jerkass]]
* [[Misaimed Fandom]] - In which they hate you for liking something the "wrong way".
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* All the [[True Art]] pages
* And especially [[Guilty Pleasures]], because they'll try to make you feel guilty for it.
{{examples|Examples here should be from in media.}}▼
{{noreallife|if we all liked the same things, this would be a boring world.}}
== Anime & Manga ==▼
* ''[[Love Lucky (Manga)|Love Lucky]]'' has an in-universe example with Erika, the female lead singer of the rock band "M.I.T.", who is a self-professed hater of "normal people". This apparently arose from the way she was treated by the band's fans after she replaced the previous lead.▼
▲{{examples|Examples here should be from in media.}}
▲* ''[[
* ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' has an in-universe case of this. In one of the episodes during the Buu arc before the World Martial Arts Tournament begins, Krillin comments on how he's unsure of who is more annoying: Mr. Satan or his fans.
== [[
* ''[[My Immortal]]'' is basically set in a world with this as its [[Planet of Hats|hat]]. There are but three sorts of people in ''My Immortal''-land; "goffs", "posers" and "preps". Being a "goff", which entails wearing black clothes from Hot Topic and listening to the emo bands the author likes, is the One True Path and everyone else sucks for existing. "Preps" are the unwashed masses who shop at Abercrombie & Fitch and worship [[Britney Spears]]. "Posers" are "preps" who try to be "goffic" but listen to the "wrong" music and are [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|thus evil]].
== [[Film]] ==
* Rock fans vs. disco fans in ''[[Detroit Rock City]]''.
** This one is based in reality. During the late 1970s there was a very real rivalry between rock fans and disco fans. The rivalry came to a head on July 12, 1979 (sometimes referred to as "the night disco died") during a baseball promotion called [[wikipedia:Disco Demolition Night|Disco Demolition Night]], which resulted in thousands of rock fans storming the field at Chicago's Comiskey Park to express their hatred of disco. The event made news worldwide and less than a year later disco was effectively dead in the United States and Canada (although it would remain popular in Europe for another few years). See also: [[Deader Than Disco]]
* Even ''[[Roger Ebert]]'' did this once, [https://web.archive.org/web/20130207230653/http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/07/i_am_a_brainiac.html saying]: "''Those who think "Transformers" (Revenge of the Fallen) is a great or even a good film are, may I tactfully suggest, not sufficiently evolved. Film by film, I hope they climb a personal ladder into the realm of better films, until their standards improve. Those people contain multitudes. They deserve films that refresh the parts others do not reach. They don't need to spend a lifetime with the water only up to their toes."''
== [[Literature]] ==
* There's a line in ''[[American Psycho]]'' where Patrick mentions that no one should feel sympathy for the woman he's forcing into getting an abortion due to the fact that her favorite movie is ''[[
* Rob Fleming from ''[[High Fidelity]]'' (Rob Gordon in [[The Movie]]) questions how one can be friends with people whose favorite band are [[
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* If you like ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' or any [[JRPG
** Adam and Morgan (less and less as of late, as we might get two reviews in a week now) flame them because, as they've stated repeatedly, they get hate mail every time they review a JRPG or anime-licensed game, regardless of the actual score they give.
* In ''[[Friends]]'', it's mentioned that Chandler once broke up with a girl because she didn't hate Yanni.
* Some random Fox affiliate ([[
* In ''[[Big Brother]]'''s 11th American Season, four previous players were invited as "guests" to give their insight on the current game being played. Danielle stated that she wanted [[The Scrappy|Natalie]] to win, and held up her hand to silence the audience, who begun to boo.
** Players have taken potshots at the fans of other players (or even previous seasons) but these have never made the feeds. There was also controversy in Season 13 where Jeff had gone off on a rant, not only insulting the premise of ''[[Harry Potter]]'' but also taking a few potshots at the fans.
== [[Music]] ==
* The lyrics to Sloan's "Coax Me" include the line, "it's not the band I hate: it's their fans".
* In [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]'s "Close But No Cigar", about a guy who [[Minor Flaw, Major Breakup|breaks up with women over minor flaws]], he breaks up with the second woman because she likes ''[[Joe Dirt]]''.
== [[Video Games]] ==
* The Krunch radio station from the ''[[Saints Row]]'' series is a hard rock and metal station that will frequently air this between songs:
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* The bug of ''[[Bug
* As part of it's increasing meta-ness, Act 6 of ''[[Homestuck]]'' introduces {{spoiler|undyingUmbrage}}, who is basically a personification of the comic's fan haters. This includes the people who complain about their friends talking about ''Homestuck'' and trying to get them interested in it.
== [[Web Original]] ==
* See this article from ''[[The Onion]]'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20100314220422/http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/man_who_enjoys_thing "Man Who Enjoys Thing Informed He Is Wrong"]
* [[The Spoony Experiment
** Then things got a little worse when Noah (not Spoony) disparaged Nintendo<ref>Saying they needs to shut the doors on all of their primary franchises, especially ''Zelda'', which he calls [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|an unchanging series]]</ref> and ''[[Tron
** He also said that if you like ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'', you are lying to yourself.
*** Same with ''[[Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)|Battlestar Galactica]]''.
* [[Winger Dinger Productions|Random DCE]] was known for this, especially in his early years. While he softened up in recent years, he still thinks [liking anime is [[Even Nerds Have Standards|beneath him.]]
* [[Zero Punctuation
** The biggest example is his ''[[Super Smash Bros
* [[The Distressed Watcher]] made nine videos complaining about the ''[[Star Wars]]'' prequels; he often called the fans stupid.
** He also proclaimed that anyone who enjoyed ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'', even as a [[Guilty Pleasure]], should be hauled into a concentration camp and killed.
* Black Pawn Movement is made up of a group of fans and anti-fans of the series ''[[Twilight (
* ''[[What
* [[
** The punchline to said video was the Critic being baffled that [[Critic Proof|the viewers didn't take his review as The Gospel.]]
* In the ''[[
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* In ''[[Beavis and Butthead]]'', they were watching a [[Bon Jovi]] video. Beavis didn't think it was that bad, and Butthead kept smacking him for not thinking it sucked. Finally Beavis got fed up and [[Groin Attack|kicked Butthead in the nuts]].
* In an episode of ''[[South Park]]'', the boys play ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' and stumble across another group of boys playing ''[[Harry Potter]]''. Cartman scoffs, "[[Hypocritical Humor|Fags!]]"
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