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*** From the perspective of Vulcans, who are canonically described as having much longer lifespans than humans (Spock's father lives until the middle of TNG, and Spock himself much longer than that) 200 years isn't all that long. And given the corruption of Surak's teachings described in ''Enterprise'' it's plausible that a generation or two was needed to overcome bigotry to the point that Vulcans felt comfortable in Starfleet in large numbers, with Spock leading the way. Even he had to overcome the generation gap between himself and his father (who was progressive enough among Vulcans to take a human wife). Also, Starfleet as a ''fully-integrated'' entity may be a relatively new thing during TOS--prior to that, the humans, Vulcans, Andorians, etc. maintained separate space fleets (Kirk refers to 'UESPA'--United Earth Space Probe Agency--in an early episode; he may have been a holdover from the Earth contingent incorporated into the Federation's Starfleet. And we know from ''Enterprise'' that the Vulcans and Andorians--at the time bitter enemies--had separate space fleets). There are any number of ways, alone or in combination, that canon and fanon can be reconciled believeably on this point.

** ''[[Star Trek: Enterprise|Star Trek Enterprise]]'' also aroused outrage in some circles with its portrayal of Vulcans as being capable of underhanded deviousness (but entirely logical underhanded deviousness) and arrogance. Evidently those fans based Vulcans on the character of Spock, who was generally noble. This despite examples such as the sole episode of the original series set on Vulcan where underhanded deviousness and arrogance were on display front and center, the traitorous Valeris in ''Star Trek VI'', and Spock himself.

'''Spock''': I exaggerated. }}

*** ''Enterprise'''s Vulcans were later retconned into followers of the flawed interpretation of Surak's teaching, which may suggest that "real" Vulcans generally are supposed to be as noble as Spock, or at least nobler than they were portrayed.

* Despite the fact that we've only seen them dating men, Olivia and Alex on ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit|Law & Order: SVU]]'' are claimed as lesbians by the show's large lesbian fanbase. Some of these fans were outraged when, in the episode "Ghost", Alex told Olivia about the man she'd been seeing. The term "manvil" was coined to describe the show supposedly [[Anvilicious|dropping anvils]] that Alex likes men. Said accusation [[No Bisexuals|neatly ignores the possibility of bisexuality]], but as always [[Subtext]] is where you find it. And of course, it wasn't nearly so bad as Serena Southerlyn's [[Ass Pull|last minute coming out]].

** [[Word of God]] declared that there was, in fact, [[Unresolved Sexual Tension|UST]] between the two women. The actress who plays Alex basically admitted that something was going on:

* ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'':

** Fandom reacted badly to Andrew being seen heading off for a night on the town with two attractive women, since he's "obviously" gay (it's actually [[Ambiguously Gay|more ambiguous]] with hints of [[Bi the Way|possibly bisexuality]]). [[Joss Whedon]] has since stated that [http://whedonesque.com/comments/15286#207889 Andrew was supposed to be headed off for a night on the town with a mixed-sex group]. Remember, it's Italy.