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There are a few situations in which this may become a case of [[That One Boss]]. An ally may be [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|powered by the dark side]] or [[Duel Boss|has to be fought one-on-one]] with either a specific character or the player character. In western RPGs about building individual character strength, no problem...you should be a [[Game Breaker]] by this point anyways. But in a Japanese RPG that emphasizes the strength of a group working together? Having only one ally might be ''quite'' a handicap without additional damage-dealers and tanks. Sure, in this case, the opponent may have reduced stats compared to a regular boss fight, but still almost always [[The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard|way more stats than they could ever actually attain while on your side]] to give the player a challenge. They'll also have their entire skillsets to throw at you, occasionally [[Secret AI Moves|even more]].
 
Contrast [[Defeat Means Friendship]], in which case a villain becomes your ally because you fought it. Compare [[Tragic Monster]], [["I Know You Are're in There Somewhere" Fight]]. May involve a [[Trial by Friendly Fire]].
 
'''WARNING: Some of these are a little detail heavy, so SPOILER alert.'''
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** {{spoiler|Kain and Yang}} in ''[[Final Fantasy IV|IV]]'' as the mind control variant. {{spoiler|Cecil's former self}} also has to be fought, but the hook here is [[Sheathe Your Sword|not to harm him.]]
** ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics Advance]]'' has one battle where you have to fight {{spoiler|Ritz}} in order to get to the final area of the game. She has no hard feelings against Marche, but just doesn't want him to progress any further.
** ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics a 2A2]]'' does it again with {{spoiler|Adelle, who gets brainwashed by Illua after leaving your clan, and then in her possessed state, she and some monsters fight you for the grimorie while you have Luso try to talk some sense into her.}}
** Hell, even in ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'', Terra gets mind controlled into fighting one of the heroes, Cloud fights Firion to test the strength of his dream, WoL and Squall fight etc. It's not uncommon.
** {{spoiler|Fran and Balthier}} in ''[[Final Fantasy XII]] [[Revenant Wings]]''. Making this worse is that it's probably the hardest fight in the game, and that the whole thing is a stupid misunderstanding.
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** In ''Ten Desires'', the Stage 1 boss is {{spoiler|Yuyuko, the [[Final Boss]] of ''Perfect Cherry Blossom''}}, who here is just helping out the heroines and holding back her power to serve as a [[Warmup Boss]].
* The third stage of ''[[Magical Battle Arena]]'' has your character finding her respective ally ([[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha and Fate]], [[Original Generation|Sarara and Kirara]], [[Slayers|Lina and Naga]]) only for the [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|rules of the universe forcing them to fight]] to get out of their current area. The only ones that doesn't are [[Cardcaptor Sakura|Sakura]] and [[Mahoujin Guru Guru|Kukuri]], who instead invokes [[Defeat Means Friendship]] on each other for the team battle on the next stage, and [[The Dragon|Ruru]] and [[Big Bad|Nowel]], who will go through said team battle solo.
* A variant occurs in ''[[Paper Mario: theThe Thousand -Year Door]]''. One boss fight has you fighting a traditional boss but your allies are fighting alongside him.
** Also, Mario is forced to fight {{spoiler|a possessed Princess Peach, who is now the Shadow Queen.}}
* A subversion of this occurs in ''[[Bayonetta]]'' where it's revealed that Jeanne, who is fought on multiple occasions, is actually the protagonist's brainwashed childhood friend.
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** That was Metal Slug 6. This also happens (sort of) in 3, where your character is abducted by aliens and you have to play as a different one to recover them. Along you way you fight legions of clones of the captured character.
* Happens fairly often, usually via Mind Control, in the ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' series.
** In [[Super Robot Wars Original Generations]], this has tallied up quite a lot. [[Brainwashed and Crazy]] victims include Kusuha (twice, by {{spoiler|Ingram}} and ODE), Excellen (twice too! By {{spoiler|Ingram, but this one got thrown into [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity]]}}, and Einsts, especially Alfimi) and Lamia (twice in the same game: first ODE, then Duminuss), and the rest of the ODE victims. The first game, however, pits you against Sanger (who's been fighting with you for the first few stages) in a convoluted plot of [[Stealth Mentor]].
** In [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeKFc0peH8 Chapter 10] of ''[[Super Robot Wars MX]]'', Duke Fleed in ''[[UFO Robo Grendizer]]'' has to to fight [[Great Mazinger]] (piloted by Blacki) and [[Mazinger Z]] piloted by a brainwashed Kouji Kabuto. Eventually, he breaks Kouji free and defeats [[Great Mazinger]] with his help.
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' has a number of these.
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** While your rivals in the first two generations of the game are both [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]], [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|May/Brendan, Wally]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Barry]], [[Pokémon Black and White|Cheren, and Bianca]] are all considerably friendlier.
* ''[[Street Fighter]]'' has indulged in this trope more than a few times, most prominently in ''[[Street Fighter Alpha]] 3'' and (''Super'') ''[[Street Fighter IV]]'''s Rival Battles.
** ''Alpha 3'': [[Big Bad|Bison]] abducts Ryu and [[Brainwashed and Crazy|injects him with a portion of his Psycho Power]], forcing ''[[The Rival|Sagat]]'' [["I Know You Are're in There Somewhere" Fight|to try and]] [[Rousing Speech|rouse him]] out of this as [[Back-to-Back Badasses|Ken and Sakura]] face Bison. Also, the Bushin [[Ninja]] [[Final Fight|Guy]] tries to reach out to [[Vitriolic Best Buds|his best friend]] Cody, [[Tragic Hero|who has gone]] from the hero of Metro City [[Darker and Edgier|to]] an [[Nietzsche Wannabe|apathetic]], [[Deadpan Snarker|snarky]], [[Blood Knight|fight]]-''[[Deconstructed Trope|addicted]]'' [[Knight in Sour Armor|brooder]], as he believes that deep down, Cody still holds some goodness in his heart.
** ''IV'': [[Fortune Teller|Rose]] believes that Ryu is [[The Chosen One]] destined to defeat Bison, but doesn't want him to preemptively rush into danger (according to her visions, he can vanquish Bison ''only'' at a specific time). On the other end, Guy tries to prevent Rose from facing Bison herself because while she intends to eradicate ([[Heroic Sacrifice|or at least]] [[Taking You with Me|stall]]) Bison, [[Senseless Sacrifice|she has seemingly resigned herself to death and holds a far greater importance to the world than she believes]] (he tried this before in ''Alpha 3'' but failed, leading Rose to eventually be [[Grand Theft Me|possessed by Bison]] in the interim between ''Alpha 3'' and ''II''; it should be noted that he and Rose were not [[True Companions]] at this point). Cue battle (and some [[Relationship Writing Fumble|unintentional]] [[Ship Tease]]). He also confronts Cody again, mainly for the same reasons as their fight several years prior, as well as trying to convince Cody to [[Bash Brothers|join him]] in the fight against Seth and S.I.N.
* [[Fate/stay night]], Heaven's Feel route. Shirou vs {{spoiler|[[Super-Powered Evil Side|Saber Alter]].}} Made worse by the fact that to play Heaven's Feel, you have to have played the Fate route in which {{spoiler|Saber is Shirou's main [[Love Interest]].}}