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* {{spoiler|The Anti-Spiral}} from [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]] seems to be something like this. Possible an collective conscience in a shadowy form.
* Junior Warrant Oficcer Schrödinger from ''[[Hellsing]]''. His powers and name deriving from the [[wikipedia:Schrodinger's cat|though experiment]] designed by the physic of the same name. As he is a self observing Schrödinger's cat he's everywhere and nowhere at the same time, being his body the manifestation of his self-consciousness.
* Xellos from the anime/manga/novel "[[Slayers]]" only exists truly on the astral plain. His body can be repaired with a thought. Subverted somewhat by the fact that a sufficiently powerful magic spell or weapon can hurt his astral form which tends to transfer to his physical form. There is, in fact, an entire class of spells made specifically to hurt and kill astral beings.
 
== Comic Books ==
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* Nekron, as of the ''[[Blackest Night]]'' can inhabit any dead body.
* Similarly, the Dark Judges of [[Judge Dredd]] can take any dead body as their vessel.
* Cyborg, Hank Henshaw, from Superman. His real form is indestructible energy (he has survived being thrown into a black hole and the explosive death of the Anti Monitor, much to his chagrin). His can rebuild his trademark cybernetic kryptonian form ad infinitum.
 
== Film ==
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* In the ''Tale Of The Five'' series by [[Diane Duane]], there is one day of the year where one can kill [[Satan|the Shadow]] but it returns immediately the day after and is said to be a waste of time.
* The [[Satan|Lone Power]] of the ''[[Young Wizards]]'' series [[Time Dissonance|exists mainly outside of time]], so the protagonists usually have to be satisfied with only ever defeating the fragments of It which are inside of the timestream. Sometimes, however, the defeat has a metaphysical component which has a permanent effect on the [[Big Bad]].
* Sauron in Tolkien's ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' universe. It may take 2-3 millennia for him to come back, but only destroying the One Ring will permanently kill him (and even then he'll persist as a powerless spirit).
** All the Ainur (the [[Fantasy Pantheon]] of Middle Earth) are like this, with a few exceptions. [[God of Evil|Morgoth]] became so obsessed with ruling and then destroying the physical world that he became bound to a single physical body, though even that was still [[Nigh Invulnerable]] (rather than risk him coming back, the other Valar cut off his hands and feet and threw him into the void); the Wizards were deliberately bound into mortal bodies to limit their powers so they wouldn't be tempted to fight Sauron directly and risk [[The End of the World as We Know It]] (Gandalf was only able to come back with help, either from [[Council of Angels|the Valar]] or [[God|Eru]]).
** The Maiar ([[Big Bad|Sauron]], [[The Mentor|Gandalf]], Saruman) residing in Middle-Earth in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' can create material bodies for themselves, but when these are destroyed they can normally just make a new one, given enough time. That Saruman and Sauron can't is partly a result of the psychological degeneration that comes with a fall from grace.
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* In the second book of [[Simon R. Green|Simon R. Green's]] [[Secret Histories]], ''Daemons Are Forever,'' the "Loathly Ones" who are possessing humans are only fragments of the [[Eldritch Abomination|"Hungry Gods"]] invading our reality.
* [[Percy Jackson and The Olympians]] the monsters and gods are almost impossible to truly kill. Monsters dissolve into sand and pop back up after awhile. The time depends on the monster ex. Mrs. Dodds came back after a few days but some take lifetimes.
* In the [[Cthulhu Mythos]], all of Nyarlathotep's physical forms are merely avatars (or "masks" as they are sometimes called). He is the personification of the soul of the Outer Gods, so whether he actually has a real body at all is never quite clear. Yog-Sothoth (who is one of the aforementioned Outer Gods) is also an example of Type 1 of this trope, as the form in which he manifests is merely the portion of him that intersects that particular point of space and time (Yog-Sothoth exists simultaneously in all points of space and time, or rather, everything exists simultaneously WITHIN''within HIMhim''. Yog-Sothoth is the PERSONIFICATION''personification'' of this Trope.)
* In [[Magnus]], the title character ends up battling one of these.
* Driving the HP to 0 of the Demonlord Tagazin, in the 10th Book of the ''[[Lone Wolf]]'' series "The Dungeons of Torgar" does not kill him; it just sends him home. In fact, the Remake of the series feels obliged to point out that even if you roll a [[One-Hit Kill]] with the [[Infinity+1 Sword]]; no, he's not dead. You later fight him on his home turf in a later book; where he can be destroyed permanently.
* Many supernatural beings (such as demons) are like this in [[The Dresden Files]]; ordinarily when summoned, their spirit arrives in the mortal world and creates a construct body, and if that body is killed, the spirit is simply sent back to the Nevernever (essentially, the supernatural dimension that exists alongside the mortal world). They can be killed permanently in the Nevernever itself, if they enter directly into the mortal world in their true form (as opposed to a construct body), or with certain powerful spells and weapons.
* Nagato from ''[[The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' is a "data entity" and she can directly manipulate the physical matter of her body. She is able, for instance, to perfect her eyesight when Kyon suggests she's prettier without her glasses.
 
== Mythology and Religion ==
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* Midway through ''[[Shin Megami Tensei II]]'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, if you're not choosing the Lawful path, you fight the REAL one. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return.
** The same holds true to any demon or god in the series. Killing them doesn't stop them from showing up in any of the other games, or even later in the same game. (Often it gives you [[You Kill It, You Bought It|the right]] to [[Summon Magic|summon]] them as [[Mon]]s.]]
* [[Ghostbusters|As noted in the film entry above, The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man]] is actually listed as a Class 7 Projected Avatar of Gozer inby ''Tobin's Spirit Guide'' in the''[[Ghostbusters: videoThe gameVideo Game]]''. Whenever it enters a new plane of existence, Gozer is given a new form and is [[Shapeshifter Mode Lock|Mode Locked]] into it, but it cannot be totally destroyed, only removed from the plane.
 
== WebcomicsWeb Comics ==
* In the early webcomicweb comic ''Argon Zark'', when Zeta deletes the monster Badnasty Jumpjump, the robot Cybert comments "alias deleted". The real Badnasty is still present.
* Parodied by ''[[RPG World]]''. The [[Big Bad]] knows that the band of heroes is going to storm his fortress, so vacates it and leaves a Shadow of himself behind to fight them. The good guys ''know'' that it's just a Shadow, but Hero insists on defeating it anyway.
* In ''Digger'', when Shadowchild {{spoiler|meets with and eats [[Sweet Grass Voice]], this might be part of why [[Sweet Grass]] was quickly defeated}}
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* In ''[[Fine Structure]]'', {{spoiler|Zykov was just the container for the local manifestation of the [[Big Bad]]. Killing himself wasn't surrender, it was just cutting out the middleman to [[My Death Is Just the Beginning]].}}
* In ''[[The Questport Chronicles]]'', this is one explanation for the [[Big Bad|Master of Darkness']] return after his defeat a thousand years ago. Or he might have been [[Faking the Dead|faking]] [[Never Found the Body|it]].
* In the ''[[PPCProtectors of the Plot Continuum]]'', canon characters cannot be genuinely killed by fanfic. They can be made to think they're dead, but only their original author has the power of life and death over them. (Luckily this doesn't apply to fan-created characters, or the PPC's job would be much harder.) This has led to such unpleasantnesses as [[The Simpsons (animation)|Snowball II]] surviving being crushed by a car, [[The Lord of the Rings|Thranduil]] surviving being boiled alive, disembowelled and beheaded, and [[Redwall|Redtooth]] surviving having a spear forced an impressive distance into his lower intestinal tract.
 
== Western Animation ==