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** For the youngsters out there, Vincent being the biological father of Sephiroth has been a mater of speculation for ''years'' until the compilation came out and discredited it. The scene where he gets all surprised after finding out that Hojo is indeed the father it's an obvious [[Plot Hole]] that [[Shrug of God|nobody had bother to answer]]
*** [[This Is Sparta|...Oh.my.god]]. [[Fridge Brilliance|And all this time I wondered why Sephiroth kinda looked like Vincent]].
** I always suspected it was a case of [[Rape
*** That would only make better the fact that I stop thinking Lucretia was completely out of her mind.
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**** The scene - hell, the whole sidestory of Red and his father would have been cheapened if he could just bring him back. Rule of drama, I guess.
**** The ultimate point is that Seto continued to fight when all others failed, even as he was being turned to stone, and had been left that way with the door sealed behind him so the Gi could never enter Cosmo Canyon. Left petrified like that, his body was irreversibly destroyed, but his soul lived on within the statue to continue this mission. The tears were most likely liquefied spirit/Mako energy rather than any actual material substance. The rage about Aeris' death is because it happens onscreen and the heroes don't do a thing to try to fix it. Seto was believably dead.
**** I think [[
**** [[Final Fantasy V]] also had a situation where someone fights well beyond their limits and ''nothing'' can save his life.
*** There is at least one theory that Soft can only be used on party members, otherwise it just brings back a mindless, possibly soulless corpse. Also, I wondered about the Seto thing but not the Aeris thing.
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*** This quote not only doesn't explain anything, but it also contradicts itself while showing a flaw in the game logics. If the grim reaper takes the soul of the person to the underworld, being he a symbol of death itself, how come a Phoenix Down gets them back to their feet? Also, the Phoenix is known for being a fire bird that, after dying, revives from the ashes of its previous body, not as a bird that wakes up after going to sleep.
*** That's because ''[[Don't Explain the Joke|he was being sarcastic]]''.
** Because if she hadn't died, she wouldn't have been in the Lifestream to use it to divert Meteor. So there was a [[Heroic Sacrifice|pretty good reason]] to keep her dead, and a [[The End of the World
** While this is the stance I take on it, by Word of God, Aerith did not mean to sacrifice herself, because it was "too cliche" & "sent the wrong message." The way I reconcile this is that Aerith's death was necessary, but she didn't know that. As to the Phoenix Down thing? In the spinoffs, you have to use a Phoenix Down on someone before they die, and it kicks in just after they do. I tend to go with that explanation. Even though it isn't the way it is in FFVII, we should remember that gameplay doesn't apply in cutscenes, anyway, but we don't, because we go out of our way to rationalize things.
*** IIRC the "wrong message" sent by Aerith's death would have been if she had died to save ''Cloud'' the way your average JRPG self-sacrificing lady-type tends to do; having her die [[Women in Refrigerators|just to hurt the player's feelings and motivate Cloud]] was their way of avoiding that particular trope. Seriously, we can argue about how dumb it is that you can't save her with a Phoenix down for another twenty years, but the end result? Aerith died because the writers wanted her dead. [[Word of God]] is incurable outside of fanfiction.
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== We can't let those Shinra jerks save the world! ==
* They're facing [[The End of the World
** If you fail to save the Huge Materia, it still doesn't actually work. So, technically, you just go and rescue the Huge Materia from being pointlessly destroyed, rather than sabotaging the only "working" plan to save the world...
*** Yes, but the heroes ''did not know that at the time.'' No one had any idea if Shinra's plan was going to work or not, but the heroes just decide to sabotage it ''anyway''.
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== What makes the [[FF 7]] heroes so special? ==
* Although it's understandable from a gameplay standpoint, what's the reasoning behind the party being the only one running around? Other games from the series have the main party as [[The Chosen One]], or [[Loads and Loads of Characters]] would lead to other adventerers joining in. In this installment, we have materia and weapons (some of it quite useful) sold at shops. Ordinary characters like Barret, Tifa, and Cid are perfectly capable of using them. Yet, the party has a total of 9 characters, and, aside from the Turks, you never run into anyone else taking advantage of these items, even when it's [[The End of the World
** Because the party members are the only ones who really know what's going on. Until Meteor shows up, nobody else in the world besides Shinra even ''know'' that Sephiroth is back, or that there's any trouble at all. They can't pick up weapons and fight against something they don't know about, after all. Plus, Cloud has the direct connection to Sephiroth that pretty much nobody else on the planet does.
*** Though it doesn't explain why the people in Coral don't just buy up some and go after [[Money Spider|Money Spiders]] or something.
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== What the hell, Zangan? ==
* This has bugged me since I first played the game. Zangan is supposedly highly selective about his students (even if he does claim to have 128), so naturally, one might expect him to have some sort of attachment to them--even filial. So what does he do when his ("dearest") fifteen-year-old student gets slice-'n'-diced? Dumps hers in Midgar and [[Put
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