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** [[Author Appeal]].
* The Trope itself [[Just Bugs Me|JustBugsMe]], Genders aren't meant to be treated this way! It's just a [[Berserk Button]] of mine...
** Is what bugs you that the title should use the term "sex" rather than "gender", that it's unrealistic, or something else? If it's the first, I agree, but many people don't like to use the word "sex" in conversation, many people don't know the difference between gender and sex or believe that evolving language has turned them to mean the same thing, and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|"Sex Change Without The Use Of Realisting Time Frames Or Surgeries" isn't as]] [[Rhymes Onon a Dime|catchy]]. If it's the second, ''[[Completely Missing the Point|it's non-realistic fiction]]''. If [[Take a Third Option|the third]], please elaborate.
*** Hello, I believe I was the OP here. Just to elaborate, it IS actually the third/another reason, "sex vs gender" always seemed overly picky to me and I'm not concerned about the realism, it's because I find it [[Squick|gross]] and [[Nightmare Fuel|horrifying]], to put it bluntly genders are not meant to be bent! Also, some might says it's [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|tri]][[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|vial]] but it also screws with how I categorise genders. Finally, I take issue with some of the reactions to this trope, mostly how everyone seems to find it interesting or sexy or whatever, and some of the issues it raises itself (Like [[Loss of Identity]], which is a good part of why I find the trope disturbing as well as gross, and the whole "[[If It's You It's Okay|If your lover was genderbent, would you still love them?]]" nonsense, that's something nobody should ever have to deal with, and something we REALLY shouldn't think about...). Wow, sorry about the [[Wall of Text]], but thanks for you reply and I hope that clears things up enough.
**** Loss of identity? If your identity only goes as far as your physical being, then you're a shallow person. Your body is important, but your mind has far more meaning.
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*** I happen to be friends with man who has gender dysphoria and is completely put off by the thought of a sex change due to fact that it takes years, costs at least £20,000 for a decent one, wouldn't be a true woman below the cosmetic (he wouldn't be able to get pregnant for example) and the widespread Transphobia/lack of education that non-transpeople hold for the transgendered. Trust me, being fully one gender is preferable to being half of one - even if it wasn't by choice.
**** Especially since there are probably quite a few non-breeding women who would take issue with the invalidation of their gender on the basis of their lack of offspring. And a number of quite happy, well-adjusted, transitioned trans people who don't consider themselves "half" anything. Not to mention the people who ''do'' identify as agender/bigender/genderqueer who don't ''want'' to be entirely one or the other. Or the people who ''would'' prefer half right to all wrong.
**** This troper is unquestionably straight and male, yet quite often fantasizes about having a female body, being quite sure he would prefer it to his male body (and being just as sure about preferring his male body to having a [[TranssexualTranssexualism|faux-female flesh-sculpture]] for a body, by the way), and sees no conflict of identity in this since he is steadfast in his belief that everything people believe about gender identity is completely wrong and no more than people, culture, and society [[Berserk Button|being sexist]]. (To clarify, this troper's concept of self, his sense of identity, is not attached or dependent on the sex of his body. If he'd been given a choice, he'd have chosen to be female, but for reasons that have nothing to do with a conflict of identity.)
***** "Faux-female flesh-sculpture"? Way to be civil and sensitive with a pothole like that.
****** [[Brutal Honesty|It's true though...]]