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{{quote|''"I've lived in Sunnydale a couple of years now. You know what I've never noticed before? This big honkin' castle."''|'''Riley''', ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''}}
 
The geography of a fictional location becomes extremely flexible as more and more is added to it.
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** The same thing happened in its spinoff strip, ''Outland'', except in reverse. The Outland was originally supposed to be [[Another Dimension]] that featured wacky, ''[[Krazy Kat]]''-inspired landscapes. It quietly shifted to feature more normal surroundings, and even became a segment of Bloom County itself in the final strip.
* Speaking of ''[[Krazy Kat]]'', Coconino County even changes before your very eyes.
* ''[[Duck TalesDuckTales]]''' Duckburg is surrounded by desert, prairie, mountains, forest and ocean. It has a spaceport, a cathedral and several other unique buildings, most of which are only seen once.
 
 
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* ''[[Nancy Drew]]'''s small hometown of River Heights seems to have whatever experts, businesses, universities, or other resources that are needed for any particular book.
** Ditto for the [[Hardy Boys]] and their hometown of Bayport, they've done a little better in more recent stories, ever since they [[Where the Hell Is Springfield?|pinned down where the two towns actually are.]] Now, they've made the two towns suburbs withing one-day's driving distance from Chicago (River Heights) and New York (Bayport.) Nowadays they just go visit, call, or e-mail when they need help.
* In the first ''[[Harry Potter (Literaturenovel)|Harry Potter]]'' book, it's stated that the geography of Hogwarts magically changes around from time to time - staircases move, steps vanish, doors don't always open and sometimes pretend to be solid walls. [[JKJ. K. Rowling]] has explained that she established this early on as a ready-to-fire [[Justified Trope|justification]] in case this problem ever manifested itself, which, of course, it did.
** This is especially true in [[Harry Potter (Filmfilm)|the movies]]. Throughout the films, Hogwarts has changed in the following ways:
*** Second film: The sand pit around the Quidditch pitch is replaced with a trench. The hospital wing is changed.
*** Third film: The location of the Fat Lady's portrait is changed ([[The Other Darrin|as is the Fat Lady]]). Hagrid's hut is moved next to a newly-added giant sundial, which is accessed across a newly-added bridge attached to a newly-added courtyard at the foot of a newly-added [[Clock Tower]]. The hospital wing is moved to the top of this tower. The Whomping Willow position has changed: it's still very close to the woods, but now it's farther away from the main building and in a more mountainous area.
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* [[Stephen King]] does this often. A good many of his books are prefaced with the statement that parts of the city, state, or country that is featured are straight made up.
** Made very well explicit in ''[[The Dark Tower]]''. The geography and distances are stated in-story to actually change. This is probably our first clue that something is seriously wrong with the world.
* The [[Discworld]]. Ankh-Morpork is concisely plotted, but everywhere else can be pretty vague. Fortunately, any possible continuity errors were explained away in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Thief of Time|Thief of Time]]'' as alternate pasts from the badly-repaired fabric of history.
* The [[Land of Oz (Literature)|Land of Oz]] takes this trope up to eleven, to the point of being inconsistent about which direction is east versus west. It's inconsistent whether there's a large river running past the Emerald City to its east, or to its west.
* Fantasia in ''[[The Neverending Story (Literaturenovel)|The Neverending Story]]'' is made of this trope, literally. It is acknowledged in-universe that distances and directions depend on the mental state of the traveler. This is not ''quite'' attributed to "the needs of the plot", but only by the very narrowest of margins.
* In the author's notes for ''[[The Guns of the South]]'', [[Harry Turtledove]] admits that he took a degree of [[Artistic License]] for a scene where the Confederates look into Washington D.C. from atop a nearby hill and see buildings like the War Department and the White House.
 
 
== Live Action TV ==
* Sunnydale in ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''
** It started off being described as a "one Starbucks town" and gradually acquired more buildings, an entire waterfront district, airport, train station, zoo, dam, a community [[College]] and a [[California University|campus of the University of California]].
** It also ''lost'' the entire beach/waterfront portions when the finale needed it to be landlocked.
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** Let's not forget that there are several ''uncharted islands'' off this beach. In Pennsylvania.
*** Does Lake Erie not exist in this particular TV universe?
* Craggy Island, in ''[[Father Ted (TV)|Father Ted]]'' parodies this trope. Usually it seems there are only a handful of people living on the island, but in one episode there's an entire Chinatown district Ted never knew about. Even weirder, a hugely disproportionate number of those inhabitants are priests. (For reference, the island of [[wikipedia:Inishbofin, Galway|Inishbofin]], which is in roughly the same place has about 200 inhabitants. No word on how many of those are priests).
** There is one constant: it has no west side. "It just broke loose during some bad weather and floated off."
* The size of Rutherford in ''[[3rd Rock From the Sun|3rd Rock from the Sun]]'' seemed to change between episodes. Sometimes it was implied to be a tiny [[College]] town and other times it seemed to be a decent-sized city.
** I always thought it was Oberlin or Kent, and that the decent sized city was nearby Akron.
* Residents of Dog River, Saskatchewan on ''[[Corner Gas (TV)|Corner Gas]]'' often refer to (and drive to) "the city" but it's unclear whether it's Saskatoon or Regina they're going to. In some cases Regina is implied, but in one case Saskatoon is mentioned explicitly, i.e., "You went to Saskatoon for a morning swim?" The show also subverts the trope, often having a character declare emphatically that Dog River doesn't have an item that many sitcom towns tend to have for story convenience. For example, the above-mentioned "morning swim" comment was the result of Brent pretending that his case of pink eye was the result of taking a dip in an over-chlorinated pool, but Hank and Wanda point out that there's not a swimming pool anywhere in Dog River.
* The island on ''[[Lost (TV)|Lost]]'', while admittedly a [[Genius Loci]] with many mysterious and magical properties, features many locations that ''you'd think'' the survivors would have encountered during their first month or so, like an entire village surrounded by a big sonic fence, the various Dharma stations, the ruins of a giant statue, and a ''whole 'nother island'' right next to it! This could also be attributed to the fact that the losties were somewhat fearful of exploring the jungle because of the monster, the Others, and the various strange whispers and apparations, but still.
** The Losties not finding these things is at least moderately plausible, but Rousseau had been on the Island for ''16 years'' and claimed never to see a lot of the stuff she came across when with the Losties. Granted, she was mad, but hadn't she supposedly been obsessed with finding her daughter? And she never came across the death pylons set in the incredible obvious grassy plain area near the centre?
** Season six has the gigantic Temple be practically next to the barracks, judging by how quickly Kate and Sawyer can go from it to the latter.
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** It also has ''historical'' flexibility, with matching scenery. It was settled by the British in the early 1700s (''despite being in California''), and was mostly grassy fields. In the late 1800s, it was full of prospectors, cowboys, and other [[Wild West]] stereotypes, and was mostly barren desert.
** This has led to an interesting (if wrong) assumption by fans that the town ''is'' Los Angeles. ''Power Rangers'' takes place in an alternate universe, and since the British found California before the Spanish, the town was given an English name instead of a Spanish one.
* In ''[[Robin Hood (TV series)|Robin Hood]]'', a convenient orphanage pops up on the outskirts of Locksley right when the outlaws need to dispose of a group of kids. Did they even ''have'' orphanages in those days?
** They were mostly located in monasteries.
* In ''[[Scrubs (TV)|Scrubs]]'', the hospital gains and loses aisles right as the plot demands.
* ''[[Smallville]]'' didn't do too badly, the titular town's geography remain stable, as did Metropolis. But it still cropped up from time to time; the Smallville Luthorcorp plant seemed to grow an entire research wing (on a waste treatment plant) and Metropolis was sometimes so close to Smallville you could see it from a not very tall windmill and sometimes far enough away even [[Super Speed]] took a while to get you there.
** On the other hand, the geography was not at all plausible for central Kansas, both for plot reasons and because [[California Doubling|they were actually in British Columbia]]. Metropolis acquired a harbor at some point (in Kansas!), and Smallville was full of whatever cliffs, valleys and rivers were required by this week's adventure. Also, the size of the town seemed to fluctuate to suit the plot--sometimes it was Dogpatch, and sometimes it was a fairly vibrant town. (Indeed, in season 5 it was explicitly a ''university'' town.) A road sign in the pilot episode lists a population of 45,001. That's not very big, but it's not tiny.
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== Video Games ==
* In ''[[Diablo]] II's'' multiplayer, the wilderness areas outside of towns change shape everytime one plays.
* The American localization of ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]'' apparently takes place in Los Angeles, California (Pacific time zone, near a movie studio). The sequel introduces the extremely Japanese Kurain Village, which is two hours away by train. The 3rd game introduces a snow covered mountain expanse with another extremely Japanese Kurain Temple located not much further beyond that. The reason, of course, is that it was an extremely Japanese game series before being localized. [[Fan Wank]] would indicate that there was simply a lot more cultural exchange between Japan and California in the series' [[Alternate Universe]], which is why no one bats an eye at people in Japanese clothing walking around in LA.
* The Mushroom Kingdom in the ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' series. Yeah, totally different in layout, features and just about everything in literally every single game and adaption, has possibly a more flexible geography situation than even Springfield in ''The Simpsons'', and more... stuff than many series have in the entire universe. Heck, even the [[Chaos Architecture|interiors]] totally change per game.
** Of course, the Mushroom Kingdom is an entire country, so it is conceivable that it could include all of those different areas. That doesn't excuse the architecture of buildings changing from game to game, though.
*** That one is plausibly justified by Bowser tending to wreck the place in every game, so it's not improbable that they simply change the architecture as they rebuild.
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' series has a significantly different Hyrule every game (going so far as to submerge it for ''[[The Legend of Zelda: theThe Wind Waker (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker]]'' and build a new one by the time of ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Spirit Tracks]]''), but it's justified as significant period of time and/or space separate most of the games.
** Hyrule is a less extreme version of this trope, as while Hyrule's topography is unmistakably different in each game, the major landmarks and their positions relative to each other remain fairly consistent from ''[[The Legend of Zelda: aA Link Toto T Hethe Past (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past]]'' on (although Kakariko Village appears to have picked itself up and moved to the far end of the kingdom at some point, and in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'', Hyrule Castle is to the north, when in all the others it's nearer to the centre).
** Oddly enough, the Wii version of ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess]]'', which made Link right-handed and flipped the map over, has Lake Hylia (southeast of the castle) and Kakariko (southwest) roughly where it is in comparison to ''A Link to the Past'', while the GameCube version has the Lake and Gerudo Desert (southwest) and the Lost Woods [by a different name] (south-southeast) analogous to ''Ocarina of Time''.
* Partially averted in ''Super [[Metroid]]'', where the parts of the game that were featured in the NES prequel remain pretty much the same, but much of the geography had considerably changed.
** The changes can be handily explained by the original base having ''blown up''.
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== Web Animation ==
* Free Country USA in ''[[Homestar Runner (Web Animation)|Homestar Runner]]'' is whatever size and sophistication level it needs to be for the current cartoon.
** This is even parodied in ''Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People'', where Strong Bad can put other Free Country USA landmarks anywhere he wants on the map, and even rearrange them as he sees fit. His own house starts in the middle, but it's just as mobile. In the second game, he makes a new map by drawing on a Risk-like game map.
** Free Country USA usually appears to be about half a dozen buildings (three houses, the King of Town's castle, the Concession Stand, Coach Z's locker room) in the middle of nowhere, explicitly told not to have roads (or functioning cars), and yet the houses are decently sized, there's utilities, a postal service (and presumably a zip code), Internet access, a few in-story television shows and commercials filmed there, and so forth. [[Rule of Funny|Best not to think too hard about it]].
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== Western Animation ==
* ''[[The Simpsons (Animationanimation)|The Simpsons]]'' openly embraces this problem. See [[Separate Simpsons Geography Thing]].
* The animated show ''[[Code Lyoko (Animation)|Code Lyoko]]'' suffers from this slightly. Most clues to the location of the show put it in France (satellite photos), despite a few episodes contradicting this (such as the visit of a French foreign exchange student). This however, is an artifact of [[Dub Induced Plot Hole|the dubbing and localization process]]. [[Fanon|The town would be]] specifically [[wikipedia:Boulogne-Billancourt|Boulogne-Billancourt]], in the suburbs of Paris. However, the French version does obfuscate a bit the exact location too, never mentioning any place name (or that the river is the Seine).
* ''[[Kim Possible (Animation)|Kim Possible]]'': Middleton, apparently a fairly small midwestern town, grew and grew and grew.
** Lampshaded in the season 4 episode "Clothes Minded", when Kim chases Drakken and Shego through a series of increasingly obscure local technical labs that she didn't know Middleton had.
* Parodied in the first episode of ''[[Clerks the Animated Series]]''; when Leonardo Leonardo is opening his new convenience store-slash-shopping mall only a few doors down from the Quick Stop AND his new skyscraper, both Dante and Randall point out how unlikely it is that they wouldn't have noticed such large buildings constructed around them; especially as Leonardo's skyscraper is the ''only skyscraper in the entire town''.
* ''[[Daria (Animation)|Daria]]'': Lawndale is a suburb of Baltimore according to [[Word of God]], but is still perpetually green and within day-trip distance of both deserts lousy with cactus, cowboys, and redneck bars, and mountains subject to sudden blizzards.
* Dimmsdale of ''[[The Fairly Odd Parents (Animation)|The Fairly Odd Parents]]'' could be its own country for all that happens there, even ''without'' Timmy's interference.
** ''Fairy Idol'' reveals Dimmsdale to be located in southern California, in an area east of Burbank but west of Death Valley. However, there is the fictional snow covered mountainous country of "Tibecuidore" that exists in Central America.
** Dimmsdale is in Imperial County, California, which is at the southeast corner of the state (east of San Diego County and south of Riverside County). Dimmsdale also seems big enough to have a population in the millions, whereas the real Imperial County has a population of slightly over 100,000.
* ''[[South Park (Animation)|South Park]]'' is in Colorado. We hear it's a small redneck town, and it did show it more than ''[[The Simpsons (Animationanimation)|The Simpsons]]'' that it seemed to be so, but, nowadays, it has malls, supermarkets, baseball parks, TV studios, a "little future" time-travellers' district and several fast food chains, both fictional and real, not to mention a plastic surgeon (Tom's Rhinoplasty appears in a lot of background shots). Strangely enough, some locations, such as Stark's pond and Doctor Mephesto's lab, still exist. [[Fanon]] states that the South Park docks were built hastily over Stark's pond for the Halloween party.
** It was also usually portrayed as having only one police officer, Barbrady, early in the show. Later, when the plot required, they started using a police department of slightly less-inept cops in a nearby, apparently larger, city.
** Some things like the Wal-Mart are shown to be new additions - it could be [[Fan Wank|thought that the town is expanding as time goes on in the show]] ([[Status Quo Is God|while the kids have only advanced one grade in a decade, of course]]).
* Danville, and even more the Tri-State Area of ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' could be anywhere, but is shown as having mountains, a desert (literally right next to each other), at least three different museums, two malls, a lake, two separate rivers, and docks on the ocean. Not to mention the easy access to landmarks across the country.
* ''[[Teamo Supremo]]'' was constantly summoned by The Governor to save the state, but exactly which state the series takes place in is never revealed/stated.
* ''[[Family Guy (Animation)|Family Guy]]'': Quahog, Rhode Island is seemingly a suburb of Providence (with its skyline in the background), which has a modest metropolitan population of 1.6 million in real life, and a city proper of less than 200,000. Despite this, Quahog has an international airport, a subway system, and other "big city" features that even Providence lacks. Sometimes the small skyline resembles Providence well, other times it looks like a huge sprawling metropolis. Some could argue that some of the scenes take place in Boston, about 40-50 miles away, but most of these big-city scenes do not resemble Boston either. Earlier episodes resembled the real-life area more (Peter Griffin even jumps off a skyscraper resembling one in Providence), whereas later episodes drifted apart from the real-life counterpart, where Quahog has a split personality between small town and bustling metropolis depending on the nature of the plot.
* Ponyville in ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'' seems to acquire a system of gem-loaded caves, a really big mountain, a large cliff, and who knows how much other stuff when the episode calls for it.
** The most egregrious example would have to be the sudden [[Schizo-Tech|hydroelectric dam]], skyscraper construction site and deadly unguarded cliffs in "The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well".
* Bikini Bottom from ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants (Animation)|SpongeBob SquarePants]]'' is shown to be this, as well. In most episodes it's a typical small town (small towns are '''usually''' underwater, right?), but other episodes have shown that it contains a mall, a racetrack, and an Olympic stadium, among other things.
 
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