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** Along with the below comment, the [[Fusion Dance]] thing is likely extremely draining, dangerous and unstable.
** At a guess, because they didn't know ''how''. Saturos and Menardi are a lot more experienced, they probably have a better idea about how to use [[Geo Effects|power in their surroundings]]. However, that raises another question...
* ... Namely, why don't the Lighthouses [[Elemental Rock -Paper -Scissors|weaken your opposite-element party members]] like Mercury Lighthouse weakened Saturos?
** This one puzzled me for a long time until I started playing through most recently. Saturos and Menardi are from the Fire Clan. Perhaps members of actual clans are more sensitive to the Lighthouse effects than regular Adepts. Proxians are of the Fire Clan, but your party members... well, I don't really remember. Are the Lemurians the Water Clan, or is that Mia and Alex? Is Ivan of the Wind Clan? Sheba probably would be, though the Mars Lighthouse and (obviously) the Jupiter Lighthouse would have no adverse effect on her. Garet and Jenna are not of the Fire Clan, and I don't think an Earth Clan was ever alluded to within the games.
** Mercury was the only lighthouse to be entered by the party after being activated. Now as for why Garet wasn't affected...
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***** As mentioned, they were the only survivors of the original team that attempted to breach Sol Sanctum. It's possible that one or more of the team were better negotiators and diplomats than S & M; at least before they bought the farm because they weren't great fighters. Perhaps they weren't even the leaders of that group to begin with.
***** About the hostages thing... if you're talking about Felix and family, they likely ''saved them from the river and took them back to Prox where they were healed''; and if you're talking about Jenna and Kraden, well... they did ask Felix if he'd rather they ''left them in the crater of an erupting volcano''. They also state that they'll take Kraden along because he has valuable knowledge, and they probably thought they could use Jenna to later trade for the Mars Star + keep Felix in check.
*** [[Chaotic Neutral]] at worst. Once again in order: whether or not you see them actually trying to civilly negotiate is irrelevant, because it was said that they did. Every time they were present ''on screen,'' when they were speaking to their antagonists that were actively trying to stop them, they were being threatening and violent, which makes sense. We don't know what how they interacted with each other and other people when they were traveling on their own -- and it is true, the worst they did to other people was the girl in the river and Hsu, neither of which are really [[Moral Event Horizon|Moral Event Horizons]]. And everything they did, they did for the sake of Prox -- which doesn't justify a lot of their violent actions such as beating up two teenagers, the girl and Hsu, and kidnapping Sheba, but it ''does'' provide them with a sympathetic motive. No one's trying to say they're not villains, but while they are clearly antagonists, they're not really ''evil'' either. Try [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]].
*** [[Values Dissonance]] also plays a role. If Agatio is anything to by, Proxian warriors are ''very'' imperialistic. The guy wanted to [[Take Over the World]]. It can be assumed that Saturos and Menardi have similar mindsets.
*** It's also possible, since the attempted negotiations with Vale happened before the events of the prologue, that Saturos and Menardi were not specifically the ones doing the negotiations-- their diplomat was one of those killed in the failed attack on Sol Sanctum in the prologue, after negotiations failed.
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** Well, the parents all lived. That would certainly help in dealing with the trauma. Combination of that and the passage of time contribute to them being able to laugh at it.
*** I think the parents that ended up being hacked, burned, water, frozen, tornadoed, and earth-quaked by the kids would find it more traumatic. Isaac: (laughing) "Hey, dad, remember that time we beat the living hell out of you and Jenna and Felix's parents?" Isaac's Dad: (twitching) Yes.
** Who's to say the original cast created the Psynergy Training Ground? I saw that thing as a less-than-accurate retelling made by fans who didn't quite understand the original story, with less emphasis on "the dragon was their parents" and more emphasis on "and then they [[Rule of Cool|FOUGHT A FRICKIN THREE-HEADED DRAGON]]". They also have the Fire Clan as bad guys, which [[Anti -Villain|also wasn't really the case]], and I certainly don't remember the Kraken being an all-important plot-defining event.
*** The fact that it's never said that the original cast made it pretty much confirms that, especially since the area near where the ground is located has a lot of Isaac & co. [[Hero Worshipper|fans]]. Also, bear in mind that the training ground was made for young Adepts. Telling the whole truth at such an early stage in their development would probably ''not'' have encouraged them to use their powers: they'd probably be spooked into never using them out of fear that something similar could happen to them.
** It is, literally, [[The Theme Park Version]]. And one of defining charateristics of that trope is...?
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* Did anyone else think that [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]] with Himi?
** Yep! One of the bigger complaints amongst the fans, as far as I know. To be fair, though, she was [[Eleventh Hour Ranger|introduced close to the end of the game]], and [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad|Sveta was kind of hogging the plot]].
 
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