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* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: {{spoiler|Agatio and Karst.}} To elaborate, {{spoiler|after they unknowingly killed by the player party in dragon form, both fully set aside their anger and beg Felix to light the Lighthouse for them. For Agatio, the whole situation's pretty darn depressing even though he ''is'' [[The Generic Guy]], and Karst gets it even ''worse'' - her death involves Felix comforting her, warming her with the heat of his hands before finally heading off.}} Following all that, {{spoiler|both of them vow to stay alive until they see the last lighthouse lit - [[Tear Jerker|it's unclear if they did, since it would have arguably revived them the way it did Isaac's dad and Felix and Jenna's parents]].}} Ouch.
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Babi as an [[Evil Overlord]], for one. It would seem that Tolbi is budding into [[The Empire]], and much of his backstory is a little less than sympathetic. Nevertheless, the party seems to take all of his requests without questioning anything.
** It's also debatable where exactly on the grand scale between good and evil the Proxians stand, with being [[Anti -Villain|Anti Villains]] and all.
** [[Draco in Leather Pants|Alex isn't evil, he's just misunderstood!!]]
*** Alex's status as a villain actually ''is'' somewhat contentious, as it isn't until after the second game ends that it is revealed that he had an ulterior motive for wanting the lighthouses lit. Which is something that Saturos and Menardi--and Felix--''were already trying to do when they met him.''
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{{quote| Felix peeked into the wardrobe... What in-!!! What's with all the wardrobes? Where are all the baths?}}
** Say it with me, kids!
{{quote| '''Briggs:''' Neener neener neener! Neener neener neener! Neener neener... [[Eyelid PulltauntPull Taunt|bleah!]]}}
** Tell Garet you know what the Wise One is in the first game.
{{quote| I know it's a rock, stupid! (implying that was what Isaac thought)}}
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** Also, the Stone Soldiers are pretty nasty, especially when you find out about their [[Action Bomb]] capacities.
** The Wonder Birds, which are capable of moving three times per turn (!), have devastating fire psynergy, and can revive fallen enemies. Overlaps with [[Metal Slime]] due to the immense amount of XP you can get off them.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Averted with Karst - besides the obvious fact of being an [[Anti -Villain]], it seems that nobody actually ''wanted'' her to {{spoiler|take her revenge on Isaac}} anyway. The events of the plot are probably also a factor.
* [[Ear Worm]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5d1rrbNo3o a] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5PjUUy2wE number] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DaHXZDjDA of] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRxcoojzbQ0 songs] are quite catchy.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Several.
** Kraden is this, to some (almost surprising) extent - most likely due to his vibrant personality. There was even a popular meme describing how to unlock him.
** Among [[Anti -Villain|the Proxians]]:
*** Saturos is - as noted on the "Golden Sun Wiki" - very popular in fandom for his charismatic personality, and the revelations about Prox in the sequel made his fanbase even ''stronger''.
*** Karst, who easily has the most relatable motives and well-developed character of all the duology's antagonists. The [[Ship Tease]] with {{spoiler|Felix, near the end}} doesn't hurt either, since {{spoiler|so many fanfic writers consciously choose to save her, regardless of whether they actually care that [[The Unfavourite|Agatio]] died with her}}.
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*** What separates this from Dullahan is that there is no factor that randomly KILLS you. What made Dullahan so hard was that in combination with Djinn Storm, it has Charon that can instant kill you in tandem with just doing damage which means that it doesn't matter if you are fully healed, you are still taking a dead member 50% of the time and maybe even two or three. Then he finishes you off with <s> [[Blind Idiot Translation|Formina Sage]]</s> Fulminous Edge. Cruel Ruin itself is not as dangerous mainly because a sufficiently strong party can stand in the face of it and still come out standing, even with no Djinn set. A level 50 party can completely raze the Doom Dragon without suffering a single death while Dullahan can KO the entire party before you even reach half HP with the same level.
*** On the other hand, Dullahan can be summon-rushed. Doom Dragon is specifically geared to nerf summon-rush strategies by having separate damage calculations for each of its forms. It really depends on your play style.
** Virtually all of Dullahan's attacks are [[That One Attack]]: Djinn Storm, which puts ''every active party member's'' Djinni in recovery mode; Fulminous Edge, which does huge damage to one party member; Charon, which can easily be a [[Total Party Kill]]; Condemn, which is a potential [[One -Hit Kill]]; True Collide, which hits hard and restores his health; Bind, which disables one party member's Psynergy...is the [[Bragging Rights Reward]] really worth it?
* [[That One Level]]: [[Punny Name|Air's Rock]]. The only saving grace this level has is a very low random encounter rate.
** You're going to respect Master Maha after that one. How the hell did he ever finish that thing alone?