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{{quote|''"A speech on willpower in this day in age? I did not know people still believed in such silly notions.''"|'''Rozalin''', ''[[Disgaea]] 2''}}
 
The villain wants to sneer at [[The Hero]]. So what does he do? He calls him, and his [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness|stern moral code]], old-fashioned. Or out-of-date, obsolete, quaint, antiquated, etc. Expect the phrase "this day and age" to come up. The [[Anti-Hero]] may use the [[Stock Phrase]], as well, as may indeed, any character whose moral code is somewhat laxer than [[The Hero]]'s. But the most characteristic users are the [[Ubermensch]], [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], and the [[Nineties Anti -Hero]].
 
A [[Knight in Sour Armor]] or other characters wearing [[Jade-Colored Glasses]], if only somewhat cynical, may regard it as amusing, for its impracticality, tinged with admiration, for its honor. The worse a character is, the more likely the attitude will be contempt.
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** In #650, part of Jason Todd's [[Motive Rant]]:
{{quote| '''Jason:''' ''I don't know what clouds your judgment worse. Your guilt or your antiquated sense of morality.''}}
** There's an older example from [[Nineties Anti -Hero|Azrael]] during Batman: [[Knightfall]].
{{quote| Robin: The old Batman would never [[Pay Evil Unto Evil|descend to their level!]]<br />
Azrael: The old Batman was created for older times. There's no place for kid gloves no. Evil has lost its patience. Obeying rules and codes the other side has trashed is ''stupid.'' }}
* [[Superman]] gets this a few time by anti-heroes; needless to say he proves them wrong.
** Notably, in "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?", in which he fights some very obvious [[Expy|Expies]] of [[The Authority]].
** In ''[[Kingdom Come]]'', a killer goth cyborg with 666 tattooed on his chest calls Supes "Man of the 1950s" for daring to lecture the future's super-gang-bangers on morality. The setup for ''Kingdom Come'' revolved around Superman coming out of retirement, which he entered after Magog, an embodiment of the [[Dark Age|''Grim and Gritty'']] [[Nineties Anti -Hero]], displaced him as the top superhero, telling him that ideals like taking villains alive don't work anymore.
** In ''Superman At Earth's End'', Ben Boxer attempts to convince Superman that his adamant refusal to kill is old-fashioned and out of touch with reality. Superman's response, [[Memetic Mutation|made famous]] by [[Atop the Fourth Wall (Web Video)|Linkara]]; "Reality is, you're just an android. '''I AM A MAN!'''" But then he uses an enormously oversized gun to mow down the [[Villain of the Week|Villains Of The Week]] and their hench-army anyway, before [[Broken Aesop|delivering a message about how guns are bad]]. And now you know why Linkara featured this comic.
* In DC's miniseries ''Trinity'', Morgaine Le Fey tells Superman, during the climactic battle, that she is looking to the future, while he, Batman, and [[Wonder Woman]] cling to the past.
* Tom Strong had an issue with a glimpse into the future where he and his family fight a Nazi {{spoiler|(the son of a female Nazi supersoldier who had impregnated herself with a sperm sample taken from Tom while he was briefly captured during WWII)}} who uses this trope to attack the Strong family's idealism. Tom shoots back with a [[Shut UP, Hannibal|Shut Up Hannibal]] and makes the case that there have been tyrants and despots since the dawn of history, and that those ideologies are the ones that are obsolete and outdated.
* This was often given as the premise for the many "proactive" superhero teams that debuted in the [[Dark Age]], and the [[Nineties Anti -Hero]] in general -- something along the lines of "In these difficult times, we can no longer afford to just wait and react!": X-Force, Force Works, Extreme Justice, and the ultimate expression of the theme, [[The Authority]].
* In [[Tom Scioli]]'s ''[[Godland]]'', Basil Cronus declares he's not like Archer: "falling into some ridiculously antiquated paradigm with ''that'' glowing do-gooder."
 
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