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*** That's later disproved by Yuki when you find out that {{spoiler|Yuki didn't create an alternate world, she merely altered the one they were already in. Only a time frame of one year was affected by the changes which is why when Kyon traveled back in time 3 years, it was the still the same tanabata he had already been too.}}
* When I first started watching this series, I figured Haruhi was just really into science fiction, but then her ballpark revelation seems to suggest that she's only interested in the supernatural because she wants to experience something no one ever has before. Now, I have to wonder - why restrict yourself to aliens, time travelers, espers and sliders? Haruhi doesn't appear the least bit interested in applying the scientific method to her research to begin with, so how come we never hear her rant about, say, ghost sightings or hidden wizarding societies?
** She ''did'' look for ghosts in the 8th novel, and they practically turned out to be real. Nagato explained them as incorporeal data aliens, but Kyon lampshaded that there is no real difference, as they [[Doing in
** Perhaps it was because those were the things Kyon told her about (save for sliders) in Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody.
** For that speech, perhaps it was for brevity. She could have added "ghosts, witches, wizards, fairies, demigods, demons, robots, werewolves, vampires..." but it would take too long.
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** In the movie she is usurped, without even asking her and the events in the novels following the movie she isn't the one being asked to transfer the powers.
* Why are people saying the art style of the second season is different than the first one?! THEY ARE EXACTLY. THE. SAME. I can't see any difference!!!
** After watching some episodes of [[
** It could be that you're just seeing similarities because you've been watching K-On. It looks close enough to me.
** Nah, he's right, at least during the Endless Eight arc. Whenever Haruhi smiled, it was as if Yui was cosplaying as her (as seen [http://karmaburn.com/files/screenshots/melancholy_of_haruhi_suzumiya/2009/haruhi2201.jpg here]). Thankfully, that was gone by the time Sighs rolled around.
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**** Well having mole prone skin is a genetic thing and which other character has a mole?
***** Wait, wait, wait... are you implying that Kyon and Mikuru are somehow related? Either there's all sorts of [[Incest Is Relative|messed up stuff]] going on in the novels that I don't know about, or that was one hell of an [[Ass Pull]], my friend.
****** How does Mikuru survive the time changes she randomly imposes on the past by say breathing? (See [[The Butterfly Effect]].) The only (non [[
** There's a WMG that says when the anime adapts Snow Mountain Syndrome (where, while staying in a mysterious mansion, each brigade member meets a phantom fake of another member), it will be a plot point. In the novel, Kyon realizes Mikuru is a fake because ''her'' mole is absent. Guess who Itsuki sees.
*** Another thing is that due to the insane number of [[Chekhov's Gun|Chekhov's Guns]] and [[Chekhov's Gunman|gunmen]] in the plot, [[Kyo Ani]] might want to put a red herring in.
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*** Every episode he sits and asks her, why didn't she say something earlier? And she says, her role is to watch. And it zooms in on him. Dramatic tension rises. He might say something else! ...but he never does. It's infuriating. It looks like he very much WANTS to tell her, next time you can tell me earlier... but doesn't.
*** Since there are subtle differences during each recursion, you'd think that they'd come up with the idea at least once, out of sheer probability's sake. And after they come up with the idea once, Yuki will continue to remind them, so it would cease to be an issue.
*** Sounds like the timeloop from [[Stargate SG
* More importantly, how on earth are Bandai going to dub this?! Will they be able to improve it somehow through varying the deliveries or the dialogue up? Or... I dunno. I hope they do SOMETHING.
** They're dubbing every episode of endless eight, and releasing them as if the weren't the same episode 8 times in a row....[[What an Idiot!|Oh Bandai...]]
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** A person who jumps from one alternate universe to another. See also: [[Sliders]], for a specific example of the trope (the show didn't invent the term).
* This is about the gender bender fan series actually. It seems like Kyon and Haruhi's roles are switched at times. Shouldn't they both act like their canon counterparts but..Well, a bit different since they're the opposite gender. Haruki's a bit OOC, same with Kyonko. Also, is Haruki still a god and Kyonko his snarky BFF?
** First, there is a [[Suzumiya Haruhi no Seitenkan
* I don't get why the fandom, not the people in the show itself, ever question anything that Koizumi says, even though he's a self admitted chronic liar. Stuff lie Kyon being ordinary, or that Koizumi would stand by the SOS Brigade if push came to shove. How come no one ever says "But Koizumi has a tendency to lie and withold information, so everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt"?
** ''[[Logic Bomb|So, when he admitted being a chronic liar, why did you believe that to him?'']]<br />But seriously, when did he say anything like that? I can only remember that sometimes he suddenly ended his monologue with "I was just joking", but there was no actual proven example of him directly misleading others (except Haruhi, of course).
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** Two reasons. First, "why Yuki didn't act earlier?": it's because that's how the [[Stable Time Loop]] works. Do you want to make something different from what you know it's the future and make a time paradox? remember that Mikuru, who is from the future, exists here and now. Second "why Yuki doesn't synchronize more often?": it's because she doesn't like synchronization. In the seventh novel it's revealed that {{spoiler|Yuki asked by her own will to the IDSE that her ability to sinchronize to be locked. As a result she got "freedom beyond what she had imagined (...) being able to act by her own free will, unbonud by the future".}}
** The stable time loop only exists because Yuki didn't act earlier. You don't see her jumping off a bridge because she remembered jumping off a bridge. She has been seen remembering the future for less useful purposes, such as fortune-telling and blocking airsoft BBs. Admittedly, those examples she'd know when to remember the future, but you'd think she'd figure at least the movie Haruhi made would be dangerous enough to merit it the whole time. Also {{spoiler|if it's just Yuki that doesn't like synchronizing, that doesn't explain why Ryoko didn't know Yuki would beat her, or why Yuki's higher-ups didn't warn her.}}
** Yuki may not jumped from a bridgebut the same principle can be used to other acts, like why did she keep wearing glasses after the synchronization. Again, that's what a [[Stable Time Loop]] is all about (note: it's never addressed how much Yuki remembers of the synchronizations, specially the second). I don't consider Yuki's fortune telling as using synchronization, it's more like simulations she executed that predicted which things will happen, the same with blocking BBs (by the way, what are BBs?). As about why Asakura didn't use it, I can throw three wild guesses: she didn't consider synchronization as neccessary, synchronization was denied to her, and that [[Haruhi Suzumiya
*** [[wikipedia:BB gun|BBs]] are small round pellets shot from <s> [[My Little Panzer|toy]]</s> [[Nerf|air]][[Paintball Episode|soft]] guns.
* I got the impression that the nanomachines Yuki was giving Mikuru were supposed to make the various versions of the Mikuru beam impossible. They were already impossible. Is making it more impossible supposed to stop Haruhi's reality-warping?
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** If you slow down and reverse what Ryoko's"incantation" during her fight with Yuki, that is what you hear, although whether of not this is just an [[Easter Egg]] or somthing more significant is disputed.
* Forgive me if I am [[Completely Missing the Point]] here but the alternate version of the SOS Brigade...what's so wrong about that Kyon decided to go "screw this" and hit the reset button? After reading [[Haruhi Suzumiya
* See above, Kyon rejected the Alternate Reality because it wasn't his brigade, further, the Yuki of that reality actually annoyed him a little. That wasn't Yuki, it was what she believed he wanted her to be. Kyon wanted her to develop on her own, not mold herself into what she felt another person, (even Kyon himself) wanted.
** Huh? Alt!Yuki was what she thought Kyon wanted her to be...? Uhm, did it really say that in the novel?
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* Excuse me, but where the hell are Haruhi's parents? Her dad is mentioned during her recollection of the ballpark incident, ("I asked my dad how many people were in the stadium") but her parents are never mentioned again. Do they know that Haruhi is the leader of the SOS Brigade? Do they know about their daughter's obsession with the supernatural? [[Fridge Brilliance|Do they have powers, too?]] And wouldn't that make Haruhi a demi-god? Is she [[Parental Neglect|really a]][[Parental Abandonment|n orphan?]] It just bugs me how there's nothing about her parents, when there's so much potential there...
** She mentions in ''Surprise'' that her mother has a job and is a [[Cordon Bleugh Chef]], which implies she at least still lives with her. (It also implies her mother is powerless, as Haruhi makes it seem as though she's oblivious to the fact that she can't cook; if she had powers, her cooking would probably be delicious 'cause she wanted it to be.)
** Keep in mind that absence or near-absence of parents as characters is very common in high school anime, manga and light novels (''[[
* Ok, I can see how DITE figure out where that "Data Explosion/Flare" came from, but how did Mikuru and Koizumi's factions found out that Haruhi is responsible for Temporal Plane Block (how d'ya call it?) and Esper empowerment respectively? How did they track it down to Haruhi?
** Time travelers have instruments beyond our comprehension, but surely they are at least able to measure anything that interferes with time travel. For the espers, gaining spooky improbable knowledge is part of the definition of "esper". Knowing things is their business, so naturally they ''just know''.
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