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== Real Life ==
* There are many cases where a corrupt regime is overthrown by rebellious revolutionaries, but later becomes this. One of the leaders of the rebellion [[Meet the New Boss|becomes the head of state]] [[Knight Templar|and will use the Revolution as an excuse for anything they do]] because [[Utopia Justifies the Means]]. Unfortunately, since [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|power corrupts]], [[Full-Circle Revolution|everything will be back to the way it was before]], [[Dystopia|or worse]]. The Soviet Union under Stalin is one of the most famous examples of this. Both of George Orwell's major works, ''[[Animal Farm]]'' and ''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four|1984]]'' are parables on this happening on how this nigh-inevitable cyclic nature of politics happens, specifically satiring this development in the USSR. [[Older Than They Think|This isn't a recent development]], either: see The Inquisition, and [[Reign of Terror|France]] under [[Maximilien Robespierre]]. For that matter, a few establishments dealing with revolution/terrorism, [[The Revolution Will Not Be Vilified|civilised]] [[The Revolution Will Not Be Civilised|or not]], have turned to [[Knight Templar]] methods little better than those they oppose.
*** [[Winston Churchill]] may not have actually said "The realfuture problemfascists iswill thatcall themselves anti-fascists" despite ironically becoming a bit of a [[Knight Templar]] in his desperate effort to retain the wordempire, "but there are some anti-fascist" seemsgroups such as UAF that actually ''[[Straw Man Has a Point|do have]]'' such an aversion to befascism that they will actively try to deny fascists from exercising non-offensive free speech, one infamous gaffe being a universallocal slurUAF todaybranch removing a wreath from a town's cenotaph, which led to a Labour councillor, ex-Mayor, and former soldier strongly reprimanding them for doing so. UAF is a leftist organization which actively fights (sometimes [http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/02/uaf-protest-against-edl-demo-in-luton.html literally so]) with/against the people popularly known as the "far right" in the UK. Sometimes, [[Not So Different|it's hard to tell who's who]]. They also have links to several Muslim extremist groups, which many people are unaware of. Also not helping matters is the fact is that the sort of groups the UAF oppose bandy about the term "Islamofascist" for anyone who dares to defend the Islamic faith and/or Muslims's right to freedom of religion. UAF and EDL both claim to be anti-racist, pro-free-speech, non-violent, and anti-fascist. Other extremist anti-fascists have been documented [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwFzOW2tZf0 using violent protest to cancel speeches from right-wing figures], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KeA_7ouClQ confronting seniors], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhHbkMHsjW0 shooting] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaIFfH7bT0 beating] conservatives, and generally doing the whole Nietzschean fighting monsters thing.
** [[Winston Churchill]] once said: "The future fascists will call themselves anti-fascists." Ironically, Churchill himself became a bit of a [[Knight Templar]] in his desperate effort to retain the empire.
*** This quote, like anything else Churchill said, is often the subject of [[Quote Mine]] upon quote mine from people with fascist sympathies to demonise current anti-fascist movements such as Unite Against Fascism. While the quote doesn't really apply to them, groups such as UAF actually ''[[Straw Man Has a Point|do have]]'' such an aversion to fascism that they will actively try to deny fascists from exercising non-offensive free speech, one infamous gaffe being a local UAF branch removing a wreath from a town's cenotaph, which led to a Labour councillor, ex-Mayor, and former soldier strongly reprimanding them for doing so.
*** The real problem is that the word "fascist" seems to be a universal slur today. UAF is a leftist organization which actively fights (sometimes [http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/02/uaf-protest-against-edl-demo-in-luton.html literally so]) with/against the people popularly known as the "far right" in the UK. Sometimes, [[Not So Different|it's hard to tell who's who]]. They also have links to several Muslim extremist groups, which many people are unaware of. Also not helping matters is the fact is that the sort of groups the UAF oppose bandy about the term "Islamofascist" for anyone who dares to defend the Islamic faith and/or Muslims's right to freedom of religion. UAF and EDL both claim to be anti-racist, pro-free-speech, non-violent, and anti-fascist.
* [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]]'s farewell speech, urging Americans to guard against the rise of a "military-industrial complex" (famously, [[Trope Namer|the first time such a phrase had been stated publicly]]) in the [[Cold War|struggle]] against [[Reds with Rockets|the USSR]] could be seen as an attempt at averting this trope.
** This aversion mostly failed, as many changes to the United States government to help defeat communism, such as [[Peace Through Superior Firepower|massive peacetime defense budgets]], [[The Government|centralization of most government functions (Commerce, Energy, Education, Interior) at the national level]], [[CIA|and a hundredfold increase in the budget for espionage and black ops]], made the US much more like its Soviet Counterpart.