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[[File:HULK_VS_THOR_5229HULK VS THOR 5229.jpg|link=Marvel Universe|frame|Can't [[Incredible Hulk (Comic Book)|we]] [[The Mighty Thor|all]] just get along?]]
 
 
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They also hate each other's guts, perhaps even worse than they do their enemies.
 
'''Headbutting Heroes''' refers to when two heroes thoroughly hate each other, or when one hero hates another hero (it doesn't have to be mutual). This is not the same as the animosity that can form between, say, a [[The Lancer|Lancer]] and his superior, since, while they may have animosity against each other, the Lancer deep down respects the [[The Hero|Hero]] and will defer to his leadership. It's also different from [[Let's You and Him Fight]], since the heroes have not been misled to face each other. They really want to duke it out every time they meet, or at the very least they are obviously disagreeable and might try to discredit each other in front of other heroes. They just cannot get along, no matter how others might try to get them to keep it civil.
 
There need not be actual violence involved in the feud, though. As said before, they might try to discredit each other, or have verbal spats. If there is a threat, they will face that threat, but this will [[Status Quo Is God|practically never lead to them getting along]]. In fact, their animosity might even become a hindrance to the situation at hand, and they might [[What the Hell, Hero?|get called on it by other heroes sick and tired of their bickering.]]
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* '''[[Pride]]''': The heroes see each other as a rival to be bested, and any action by the other hero is seen as a challenge or insult. Definitely the most petty reason AND the most permanent one. With any other reason, it might be marginally justifiable for there to be a rivalry between the heroes.
 
Quite obviously, [[Anti-Hero|anti-heroes]] are VERY prone to this type of relationship with full-fledged heroes. It's almost a prerequisite of being an anti-hero that a full-fledged hero will hate your guts. [[Sociopathic Hero|Sociopathic heroes]] are also prone to this, for obvious reasons.
 
Subtrope of [[Divided We Fall]] that involves individuals rather than [[We ARE Struggling Together!|factions]]. Compare to [[Teeth-Clenched Teamwork]], where, while hating each other, the heroes are willing to set aside their difference for the sake of doing what's right. [[Fighting the Lancer]] is when the teammates ''can't'' set aside their differences, and comes to blows.
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== Comic Books ==
* [[Batman]] has a tendency to rub many other heroes the wrong way, with some of them actually going hostile on him. [[Superman]] is not one of them (which can surprise people, considering how opposite they are portrayed usually), but [[Green Lantern|Hal Jordan and especially Guy Gardner are]]. Harvey Bullock is sometimes portrayed this way towards him too, but he eventually gets better.
* And speaking of [[Green Lantern|Guy Gardner]], he REALLY has an ability to rub people wrong. Countless people have manifested the desire to beat the shit out of him. [http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2355/621728-int_jli_punch_super.jpg Batman actually did...WITH ONE PUNCH!!!]{{Dead link}}
* [[Incredible Hulk|The Hulk]] REALLY has this in spades. He has loads of characters he'll never get along with. Amongst them, [[The Mighty Thor|Thor]] is the one with whom he has the biggest rivalry. [[X-Men|The Juggernaut]], [[Wolverine]] and [[Fantastic Four (Comic Book)|Ben Grimm]] are also common rivals.
** As far as the Hulk goes, he and Thor will occasionally get along perfectly well until one sets the other off, and a fight breaks out. Hulk and Ben also have mutual respect for each other. That being said, the Hulk does have a few heroes he absolutely hates, especially after the [[Planet Hulk]] / [[World War Hulk]] incidents. Reed Richards, Tony Stark, and Professor X being among them. Wolverine and Juggernaut, on the other hand, are purely antagonistic with the Hulk.
* [[Wolverine]] can't go a week without running into a hero who wants to beat him up. If said hero is a government agent or came from the Weapon X program, even more so.
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* Namor the [[Sub-Mariner]] has this with pretty much THE ENTIRE [[Marvel Universe]].
** Primarily due to him being a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|royal]] [[Jerkass]].
* [[Watchmen (comics)|Rorschach]] is considered a lunatic and subversive by the authorities, and most heroes don't want anything to do with him. Laurie Jupiter, specifically, can't stand him at all. The Comedian gets this a lot, too.
* Pretty much every hero that has crossed paths with [[Lobo]] will not hesitate in duking it out with him. Calling Lobo a hero is a bit of a stretch though.
* To this day [[Ms. Marvel]] still hasn't forgiven [[X-Men|Rogue]] for [[Mind Rape|Mind Raping]] her to steal her powers back when Rogue was still a villain working for Mystique, and she likely never will.
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== Film - Live Action ==
 
* Happens in [[The Avengers]], and many have argued that this is part of the movie's appeal: successfully translating the complex dynamics of the heroes' relationships in the comic books to the big screen. It is a very large plot point actually.
 
== Literature ==
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== Pro Wrestling ==
* [[John Cena]] and [[Dwayne Johnson|The Rock]] are both supposed to be "heroes" (i.e., babyfaces-- Cenababyfaces—Cena gets booed more than almost any other face ever, though), and they can't stand each other at all. Same applied to [[Shawn Michaels]] and [[The Undertaker]] towards the end of the former's career, although that was more due to Michaels' ([[Kayfabe]]) obsession with defeating Undertaker at [[Wrestlemania]].
 
== Video Games ==
* In [[Dragon Age II]], Fenris openly despises Anders and Merrill, the mages of the party due to his past as a slave in the Tevinter Imperium, an [[The Empire|Empire]] filled with [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil]] [[Evil Sorcerer|Sorcerers]]. Merrill in particular he especially despises due to her use of [[Blood Magic]] (which in the setting is considered [[Black Magic]] and widely used in the Imperium) and her belief that all elves should care about their lineage (which he doesn't). Being friendly towards her in front of Fenris will push him towards Rivalry and at the end of her companion quest, {{spoiler|where she at best will be exiled from her clan and at worst cause its extinction, states that the only regret is that there are people willing to die for someone like her and that the world is poorer with her still alive}}.
** Anders hates everyone in the party except for Varric, Isabela, and Hawke. He hates Merrill for her [[Blood Magic]] and demon summoning. He and Aveline can't stand each other since she cooperates with the Templars to maintain order in Kirkwall by arresting apostates. Anders despises Fenris just as much as Fenris despises him because Fenris is so blatantly anti-mage. Anders and Sebastian's mutual hostility is rooted in their opinions on the Chantry and Grand Cleric Elthina -- SebastianElthina—Sebastian thinks she is doing her Maker apointed duty by staying neutral, while Anders thinks she is a weak-willed biddy who doesn't have the courage to take a stand.
** It's not just in [[Dragon Age II]]. In the [[Dragon Age Origins|first game]], [[Adorkable|Alistair]] and [[Jerkass|Morrigan]] hate each other from the first words they exchange and continue to exchange bile-filled insults throughout the entire game, right up until the end.
* Detective Cole Phelps and {{spoiler|DA Investigator Jack Kelso}} in ''[[LA Noire|L.A. Noire]]''.
* Noel Kreiss to Snow Villers. in ''[[Final Fantasy XIII-2]]''. They get over their differences pretty quickly, though.
 
== Webcomics ==
* Despite being both of Good [[Character Alignment|alignment]], [[Loveable Rogue|Haley Starshine]] and [[Actual Pacifist|Celia]] from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' despise each other.
 
== Western Animation ==
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