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{{quote|"''54. Do you not realize how much gold actually weighs?''"|'''[http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/ The Fantasy Novelist's Exam]'''}}
 
Writers frequently misapply, distort, or outright forget about the concept of density and its implications. This results in such oddities as most metals, including gold, being treated as weighing the same as an equivalent volume of iron or steel, with the possible exceptions of aluminum (famous for weighing less) and lead (famous for weighing a lot). The only thing typically treated as denser than lead is matter from a neutron star, by orders of magnitude -- theremagnitude—there's apparently nothing in between.
 
By the same token, anyone can lift as much of a "light" object, such as feathers, Styrofoam, or in the worst cases even ''stacked flat paper'', as can be made practical to carry.
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* In ''[[Detective Conan]]'' one episode has golden bricks which were covered in moss to make them look like old stone bricks and the titular character easily lifted as if it were that light.
* ''[[Samurai Champloo]]'' ep. 13 opens with a group of pirates making a raid, at one point they effortlessly throw suitcases full of gold from ship to ship.
* In ''[[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]]'' episode 11, Rose puts a brick-sized gold bar into the bag of her nine-year old daughter Maria, who doesn't react even slightly to the weight that must be close to 60 pounds! However, just a bit later Rosa uses the same bag as a blunt weapon with extreme effectiveness -- consistencyeffectiveness—consistency was just too much trouble, apparently. In the Visual Novel, the ingot is given an approximate weight of, I believe, around 11 kilograms; in addition, it's directly stated that she carries is in a blanket which she later use as a weapon against the {{spoiler|goatmen attacking her and Maria}}
* Averted in ''[[Naruto]]''. The Fourth Kazekage has the power to control gold, but gold is realistically heavy and malleable in this series. Instead of using it offensively, he uses these properties of gold to interfere with his foes' physical attacks, making them heavier.
 
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
* ''[[X-Men]]'': Piotr Rasputin has an official weight of 114  kg, and a height of 198  cm. When transforming into his [[Chrome Champion|metal form]], his height becomes 226  cm, while his weight doubles to 228  kg. Assuming these numbers are correct, refers to him turning into metal instead of just gaining a metal coating, his human density is roughly equal to 1  kg/l, his metal form would have a density of 1.35  kg/l, or about half the density of aluminium. The kicker? The metal he transforms into is explicitly compared to osmium, the element with the highest density (22.6  kg/l, or exactly twice as dense as lead). If his metal form actually was osmium, Colossus would weight 3826  kg.
* ''[[Welcome to Tranquility]]'': Minxy builds a plane out of solid gold, and it is specifically mentioned that it will not fly because it is too soft and dense a metal. [[Rule of Cool|It does anyway.]]
 
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* An [[Irwin Allen]] movie, ''City Beneath the Sea'', invoked the density of gold when the titular undersea colony used ingots as shielding to separate samples of an [[Unobtanium|ultra-fissionable material]] and prevent it from achieving critical mass. And then an idiot thought, "Gold! I'll steal some!" without considering that a) he might cause a nuclear explosion, and b) the gold he wanted to steal was being irradiated. [[Fridge Logic|To be fair, the filmmaker didn't seem to consider the second point either]].
* In ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]'', [[The Caper]] involves a squad of Allied soldiers in [[World War Two]] stealing $16 million in [[Nazi Gold|gold bars]] from a bank behind German lines. In the [[WW 2]] era, the price of gold was fixed at $35 per troy ounce, so $16 million worth would weigh 15.67 U.S. short tons and have a volume of 26 cubic feet. It has been calculated that the writers grossly misrepresented the size and weight of that much gold given how much is visible in the movie and the means they use to carry it away.
* [[Soft Water|Water is soft,]] and according to many, many disaster movies, very light. [[Most Writers Are Human|Most of us use water every day,]] and we expect it to flow around anything it encounters that is denser than air. However, one liter (1 cubic decimeter) of water weighs one kilogram. This means that every cubic meter of water weighs 1,000  kg, or 2,204.6  lbs. ''This'' means that a 7-foot wall of water hits a building with 3.1 pounds per square inch, which is comparable to an explosion at close range. Now, scale this up to the 300-foot wave in ''[[The Day After Tomorrow]]'' or the 3500-foot wave in ''[[Deep Impact]]''. Bomb shelters built to withstand megaton nuclear blasts ''might'' survive, but they would be very hard-pressed.
* In ''[[Harry Potter (film)|Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II]]'', the trio are in a vault at Gringotts where thousands of gold items are cursed to multiply whenever someone unauthorized tries to move them. Harry swims through a growing avalanche of them when he should actually be pretty quickly crushed, or should at least break a lot of bones and be rendered immobile.
** More evidence wizards are simply physically tougher than Muggles?
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* In the [[Honorverse]] books it was initially played straight, despite [[David Weber]] [[Shown Their Work|getting quite a bit else right]]. Once fans started pointing out the absurdly low density (on par with cigar smoke) with the largest ships, the numbers were fixed.
* In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld/The Truth|The Truth]]'', Lord Vetinari is accused of trying to abscond with a large amount of money supposedly stolen from the city's treasury. Commander Vimes and William de Worde both realise the story can't be true after they calculate how much that amount of money would actually weigh.
* Pavel Bazhov's ''Malachite Casket'' happily averts this -- itthis—it ''is'' a collection of miners' fairytales, after all. In one story the hero doesn't let himself to be deceived by the [[Fair Folk]] because he knows ''exactly'' how heavy the gold is, so he immediately sees that the teenage girl effortlessly holding a tray full of gold sand, ingots and lumps (that would weigh hundreds of kilos in [[Real Life]]) is a fake.
** In another story two boys who do not know this yet find come across magical gold which, if picked up, shouldn't be dropped, or all the gold will turn into rock. One boy grabs happily a large lump and suddenly finds it unbearably heavy, but is too afraid to drop it and just warns his friend. The latter picks up much smaller, but still heavy piece and realizes that his friend is way over-encumbered. After an argument, the second boy deliberately drops his lump, so all gold turns into rock and his friend won't hurt himself.
* Damien Lewis's ''[[Cobra Gold]]'' completely averts this, the problem of getting 17 tons of gold out of Beirut is central to the story in the first half, and finding a suitably heavy fake (which turned out to be solid tungsten coated with a thin layer of lead and gold) later on, is included as well. There are numerous mentions of how little space 17 tons of gold actually takes up, but most of their equipment can't handle the heavy load all at once.
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== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* On ''[[30 Rock|Thirty Rock]]'', Kenneth has an idea for a game show in which contestants guess which suitcase being carried by models is filled with gold. The show was discontinued for being too easy, as one had only to look for the model who had trouble holding up the suitcase. This perhaps qualifies as both a lampshade ''and'' a straight example of this trope; even a small briefcase will have a volume of some 1,000 cubic inches, so one ''full'' of gold would weigh over 700 pounds, and no human of ordinary strength could possibly carry it at all.
* At the other end of the scale, one episode of ''[[CSI]]'' has the team investigating a casino heist, supposedly of ten million dollars in cash. Grissom realizes the money would weigh around two hundred pounds -- farpounds—far too much for one man (seen in security footage) to practically carry. (It isn't stated, but it would also be unfeasibly bulky.)
** The 200 pounds (actually closer to 220) presumes it's all in $100 banknotes. A more normal mix of currency would about double this. A million US dollars in mixed currency fills a large suitcase, and one would probably have to pay over-weight charges to fly with it. $250,000 (in $100 bills) fits carefully into an [[Evil Mastermind]]-syle aluminum attache case.
* In ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]'', a character uses alchemy to create a big lump of solid gold, which the characters lift and carry as easily as if it was polystyrene.
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* Many games featuring weight limits for what a character can carry measure everything in the same unit. This can become a problem when the unit was designed with some common adventuring item (such as an arrow or dagger) weighing "1 unit," in which case items that should be much lighter (jewels, scrolls?) end up weighing the exact same amount as "base" items. A common workaround is to give such items a weight of zero, which can [[Hyperspace Arsenal|lead to massive hoarding]] if any of them are common and useful.
** In lieu of such possible hoarding, certain games may opt for body slots for items of negligible weight, meaning only a certain number of these items may be worn at a time.
** And since it keeps coming up, many of these games give you a strict limit to how much equipment you can carry, say, 100  lbs. And then lets you carry around, on your person, hundreds of thousands of units (typically coins) of gold which don't factor into encumbrance ''at all''.
* Most fantasy CRPGs (such as ''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'', ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'' and ''[[Morrowind]]'') track encumbrance on items, but money is weightless, so it's permissible to walk around with five million gold coins without a sweat. On the other hand, the RPGs some of them are based on usually averts this: in D&D 3.5, 50 coins weigh [[American Customary Measurements|a pound]]. Whether you take this into account depends on your DM.
** The problem with various [[Role Playing Game|Role Playing Games]]s, especially those based on on (A)D&D is the cost of not so rare items that sometimes reaches hundreds of thousands "gold pieces". This is actually magnitude of late medieval war contributions and budgets of duchies or smaller kingdoms.
** ''[[Asheron's Call]]'' originally averted this but they changed it later.
** ''[[Albion]]'' averts this - money has a definite weight.
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** Averted by ''[[Return to Krondor]]'', where coinage had a definite weight. However, it wasn't very noticeable for the first few chapters of the game, where it would auto-exchange coins for high-value gems whenever you visited a shop. Towards the middle of the game, there's a chapter that involves traveling from Krondor to a small village, with no shops to stop in along the way to exchange coins. You will inevitably be leaving behind quite a large amount of treasure on monster corpses before the chapter is up.
*** ''[[Betrayal at Krondor]]'', the predecessor to ''Return'', used weightless money. Then again, inventories were so small that requiring an inventory slot for money would've been outright painful.
* The info in the Pokédex in ''[[Pokémon]]'' frequently applies this to living things, giving weights that are often ridiculously heavy or light: Wailord is 14.5 m long, yet only weights about 400  kg.
** Apparently some Pokémon are ''less dense than hydrogen.''
** The whale family are at least called "float whale Pokémon," as Wailord is likely based on a blimp and its original form, Wailmer, seems to be based on a beach ball. However, how they manage to dive is the real question.
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** Hilariously, in the sequel they went overboard; some weapons were weighing in at twenty, thirty, some even sixty pounds. No, just no.
*** Of course, one must also remember that the encumbrance units are not specified as being in pounds. They're just numbers without an associated unit. They could be in nanograms for all we know.
** In ''[[The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall|Daggerfall]]'', when the shop had been bought out of its money, a nondescript letter of credit was issued. You could never be over-encumbered with too many 0.25lb25 lb pieces of paper placed directly into your inventory by shop-keeps. On the other hand, you could never pick up anything else until you returned under normal inventory weight limits.
** While we're on the subject of ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'', let's not forget steel equipment inexplicably weighing more than comparable iron items.
* Many games with a storage system will often overlook that the amount of items and weight of some of them will either not fit in the specified container used, or would end up being so weighty and bulky the character couldn't move around as effectively as they are shown to. Of note, ''[[Metal Gear Solid]] 3'' comes to mind with its backpack inventory system, fitting an RPG, two rifles, and an assortment of pistol sized weapons, along with medical supplies, rations, and any critter you caught, while not weighing Big Boss down. They only become weighty when equipped on his person.
** Also is ''[[Resident Evil]] 4'', with the Attache case. Never mind an RPG weighs a lot, or that a fully loaded case would probably be too heavy to lift. And how does the Merchant hide that in his coat?
** Don't forget Link in...well, every ''Zelda'' game ever. But especially ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'', where he can swing his giant hammer almost as well as his sword, and the Iron Boots only make him sink if he's wearing them -- notthem—not while he has them stored inside his other boots (or wherever it is that they go).
*** In ''[[The Legend of Zelda (video game)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' Link carries around with him, on top of the usual armour of shield, sword, bombs, arrows, etc, an entire raft and a ladder big enough to bridge small streams and gaps with.
** ''[[EverQuest]]'' assigned weight to coins, as well as having money come in different denominations (copper, silver, gold and platinum). Along with the way fall damage was calculated, it meant it was entirely possible to commit unintentional suicide by grabbing a couple thousand platinum from the bank - and abruptly taking 20k damage from the "drop" when you stepped off the threshold of the bank's front door.
** ''[[ADOM]]'' also assigns weight to gold pieces. It's quite possible to get crushed under the weight the gold you are carrying if your magic fails you. With normal in-game methods you can accumulate hundreds of kilos of gold. Abusing a bug you can get hundred thousand kilos.
* In ''[[Uncharted]]: Drake's Fortune'', Nate realizes the golden statue they're looking for was brought to the island when he looks at some old freight logs and notices something weighing "about 500 pounds". A cube of gold that weighed 500 pounds would have about 8.94 inches (22.7  cm) to a side. The statue they find looks like it should weight several ''tons'' at least.
** But then, {{spoiler|the statue isn't solid}}.
* Not sure if it's a subversion or what, but in ''[[Mafia II]]'', one level has you giving the Chinese Mafia money in exchange for heroin. One of the head guy's bodyguards hefts the briefcase then tips it out, stating the denomination of the bills, their weight and how much that weight equals in money.
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* Density is a plot point in the ''[[Thundercats]]'' episode "All That Glitters", with the fuel source [[Unobtainium|Thundrillium]] being stated to be ''denser than gold''. Granted, the Thundercats are all pretty strong (even those whose skills ''don't'' have anything to do with power still have a ridiculous amount of musculature for someone never shown pumping iron), but for something to be that dense and still of use as anything but a permanent doorstop...
* ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants]]'' is never terribly consistent about whether the characters are in a water-like medium or an air-like medium.
* ''[[Puss in Boots (animation)|Puss in Boots]]'' averts this in the scene where the heroes discover the golden eggs--theyeggs—they're too heavy for any of them to lift a single one, so they take the goose that laid them instead. It's played straight in every other scene with gold, where dozens of those same eggs are carried around in a single cart and casually thrown around, as well as Puss-in-Boots's flashback where Humpty is able to move around two huge bags of gold.
 
 
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* At some old gold mines in Canada, one gag played on new miners (and visitors) was to tell them that if they could lift a brick of gold off the table with one hand gripping it from the top, they could have it. The joke worked because of the density (something about the size of an ordinary brick weighs about thirty kilograms), shape of the brick, and smoothness of the metal, making it impossible to get a grip strong enough to lift it.
** This was demonstrated in that exact fashion on an episode of the Canadian documentary series ''Ed's Up,'' which stars [[Barenaked Ladies]]' Ed Robertson. While he was working at a facility which produces gold bricks, the employees told him if he could pick up the gold brick (the size of an ordinary brick) and carry it out without assistance, it was his to keep. The best he could was turn it on its side, after a great deal of effort. There was a slight lip on the brick after it had been stamped on the top, which he thought might help, but it was of no avail.
* Often, actors who handle fake human limbs without realizing that actual body parts are much heavier than you'd think they are. We tend to forget that because legs and arms seem to move around so easily. Of course, so do cars. Since it's something most people wouldn't really know about, it can be excused as a case of [[Reality Is Unrealistic]]. The weight of human body parts can be roughly calculated by the "rule of nines." The head is 9%, the torso is 18%, the abdomen is 18%, each arm is 9%, each leg is 18% (with 1% left over). So, if you weigh 80  kg (175  lbs), each of your arms is about 7  kg (15  lbs), and each of your legs is about 15  kg (30  lbs), give or take.
* There is a story about a nobleman coming into the lab of a scientist working with platinum. He complained it was a bad joke -- gluingjoke—gluing the metal to the table.
* The specific gravity of gold is nineteen. That means it has nineteen times the density of water. Pick up a gallon jug of water and note how heavy it feels. If it was filled with gold it would weigh nineteen times as much.
 
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