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The agents of Derse and Prospit and the royalty of those planets.
 
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=== Tropes common to all Prospitians and Dersites ===
* [[Adult Child]]: The higher you go up the castes, the more mature they seem. Jack Noir acts like a teenager, the Courtyard Droll and Wayward Vagabond act like young children, and the Royalty of each planet act more or less like adults.
* [[Anthropomorphic Personification]]: Of chess pieces. Averted with some other pieces, like rooks and bishops, which exclusively appear on the Battlefield and seem much more monstrous than other carapaces.
* [[Ascended Extra]]: Both as a whole, they've become very popular, and In-Universe, where a few carapaces will be exiled and advise players from their former homeworld, and then rebuild civilization with other, unseen, exiles.
* [[Bishonen Line]]: Odd usage related to hands. High ranking agents like Jack Noir and the Royalty of each planet have clearly distinct fingers while pawns like WV have more claw like hands. Inverted with their teeth though; high ranks have sharp teeth but low ranks have pretty much human teeth.
* [[Bizarre Alien Biology]]: Averted, though their skin are semi-segmented hard carapaces, with edges and complex joints, this does ''nothing'' to their durability, as they suffer from wounds in a nigh-identical manner to humans and trolls. They do have internal genitals and [[Non Mammalian Mammaries]], but they have skeletons too, and organs seemingly all in the normal places, meaning overall they're pretty human.
* [[Fan Nickname]]: "Carapaces" to refer to both races as a whole, and extrapolating from that, "Carapeople."
** [[Ascended Meme]]: They eventually start to be referred to as Carapacians as a whole in Act 6.
* [[Fantastic Caste System]]: Follows basically from chess rules. There is only one pair of royalty per planet, a small number of archagents, and a massive number of pawns below them.
* [[Funny Animal Anatomy]]: Follow in Hussie's words "cartoon logic" in that guys don't have to wear clothes, but girls do. [[Word of God]] is that they have internal genitals.
* [[Immortality]] Type II: They have only been shown to die from external causes, and seemingly cannot die of old age. They're even fairly tolerant of injuries, starvation, and dehydration. In fact, there's no indication that the exiled carapaces even ate or drank anything for several hundred ''years''.
* [[Monochromatic Eyes]]: Black for Prospitians, White for Dersites, neither having pupils.
* [[Non Mammalian Mammaries]]: Unlike the trolls, it happened because fan speculation pegged PM as female, and Hussie said "[[Sure Why Not]]", and it spiraled from there. Originally, they were intended to be all male, save the Queen. Not true for all women though, as there have been several shown and identified female pawns that are completely flat.
* [[Ring of Power]]: The two Queen's Rings and the two King's Staves can prototype any carapace, giving them [[Reality Warper|strong reality warping abilities]], as well as conferring on them the features of the things that were prototyped, ie, jesters, cats, various animals, impaled crows, [[Reality Warper|First]] [[Oh Crap|Guardians]]...
** [[MacGuffin]]: In addition, the White Staff can be used to start the Reckoning, and is used to do that by the forces of Derse in an ordinary session. The players then have 24 hours to defeat the Black King and capture the Black Staff, which wins the game.
* [[Sidequest Sidestory]]: Most Carapaces are irrelevant to the game, but nonetheless are sentient and can interact with the players, and have their own stories going on. However, two Dersites in particular are ways to eliminate the final bosses, avoiding direct combat. These sidequests are only triggered under unknown circumstances, apparently when the resentment of the Royalty by the two becomes unbearable, and may not occur in a session.
** Jack Noir (and to a lesser extent the Archagents under him) functions as backdoor means to eliminate the Black Queen due to his ambitions. In both the Pre-Scratch Human session and the Post-Scratch Troll's session, he eliminated the Black Queen through direct power grab and a coup d'etat, respectively.
** WV also serves as a backdoor means of eliminating the Black King. According to [[Word of God]], [https://web.archive.org/web/20130309193653/http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#andrewhussie898002954 there is always a rebellious soldier] in every session. Seems to also be [[That One Sidequest]] in that it's far more difficult to interact with him on Skaia, while Jack Noir actively seeks out players. At any rate, he hasn't pulled it off in either session shown so far.
* [[The Voiceless]]: Odd usage. Carapaces clearly can speak and have done so in commands, narration, and game sequences, but nonetheless they never speak in chat logs.
* [[You All Look Familiar]]: Generic pawns look completely identical. Non-combat pawns vary more in their appearance.
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[[File:Jack3Forms_7962.png|frame|The three forms of Jack Noir <ref> The wings are not naturally grey, but are lightened to show black on black details.</ref>]]
 
The Archagent of the Dark Kingdom of Derse, he watches events from his CUBICLE OF VIGILANCE. Within the game, he functions as a non-standard way to get rid of the Black Queen, and should players collaborate with him, they can avoid a tough fight at the end of the game, though they should also be cautious that [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil|he doesn't turn on them.]]
 
The trolls' iteration went on to become [[Homestuck/Characters/Exiles|Spades Slick]], leader of the Midnight Crew, after helping the Prospitian trolls exile the Black Queen. The Alpha iteration also has his own subsection below.
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The Beta version was humiliated by the Black Queen by a succession of increasingly humiliating dress code changes. [[The Starscream|It didn't end well for her]]. [[Omnicidal Maniac|Or for anyone else, for that matter]].
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* [[Achilles' Heel]]: Besides the omnipotence, which definitely sucks for everyone, the Bec prototyping did actually grant Jack something that can only be beneficial to the protagonists; he possesses a fierce subconscious loyalty to Jade and is completely unable to bring himself to harm her. [[Rule of Funny|Also he has this weird obsession with dog treats]].
** This eventually came back to haunt him - Jade and Dave fought him together and Dave outright abuses this weakness by shielding himself with Jade. So Jack is pretty much in a battle he can only escape from.
** And now he's stuck following Jade around like a lost puppy and obeying her commands because of his loyalty.
* [[Allergic to Love]]: Both versions of Jack have shown disgust and hatred towards red romance, so it's not all that surprising that when he falls for an angry PM, his first reaction is to run.
* [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil]]: Jack loves to murder people. He cares very little even for his comrades, and even his idea of consoling someone is kind of paltry at best.
** Beta Jack does display some kindness to Jade... of a sort, and only really because Bec's prototyping essentially [[Brainwashed]] Jack. Even then, he's still kind of a jerk. When his form of kindness is ''not'' immediately killing someone, well, that says a lot.
* [[And Then What?]]: Faces this dilemma after being prototyped with Bec. Killing and destruction are the only ways he knows to pass the time, but he has to be careful so that he doesn't accidentally destroy ''everything'' with his omnipotence, because then there will be nothing left for him to destroy. However just as he's run out of things to blow up, PM shows up and Jack falls in love with her.
* [[Anthropomorphic Personification]]: His insatiable lust for destruction exists because he's the embodiment of the cancer in the kids' universe.
* [[Bad Job, Worse Uniform]]: He ''hates'' the outfits the Black Queen forces him to wear.
* [[Berserk Button]]: After the fourth prototyping, harming Jade eventually develops into this.
** [[It Got Worse]]. See [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]] below.
** According to [[Word of God]], it was specifically the clown costumes that finally pushed Jack over the edge. That's how Gamzee made the cancer "terminal" by causing John's fear of harlequins and Jack's humiliation.
* [[Big Bad]]: Handily [[Stealth Pun|usurps]] this role from the Black Queen and King in the Kids' session, and is the [[Big Bad]] of Act 4.
** Has the role usurped from him in turn in Act 5 where Doc Scratch (and by extension Lord English) proved to be the true [[Big Bad]], whereas Jack is merely a very dangerous threat.
* [[Bishonen Line]]: He looked positively monstrous between John's One-Armed Harlequin prototyping, Dave's Seppucrow, and Rose's Eldritch Cat Princess etching their features onto him. After Bec is prototyped and Jade enters the medium, he loses the tentacles and cat features, and what was left of the harlequin outfit and becomes overall sleeker and meaner.
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* [[Create Your Own Villain|Create Your Own Hero]]: Many times, with PM, Aradia, and all of the kids. It's fair to say that everyone who isn't directly killed by Jack becomes much more powerful because of his actions, and even some of the ones that he does kill become much more powerful.
* [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]: According to [[Word of God|Andrew Hussie]]. Although there are arguments for him being the inverse, simply not caring about genre or implications, and just wanting to destroy everything.
** By now this has been demonstrated multiple times. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005702 A nigh-unkillable God Tier player shows up the challenge him; does he accept?] He does, but not before following her trail back to her hideout and [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005711 slaughtering all of her non-God Tier friends.] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005596 Two players show up to challenge him in order to get revenge for their murdered parents]; just as the fight is starting, he teleports behind one of them and stabs them in the back. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005762 He encounters two more players, one of whom is his] [[Achilles' Heel]] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005762 and he can't bring himself to harm. (check the banner at the top of the page)] After trying to fight them directly for a bit, he [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005769 redirects the attack from one player into her friend (banner again).] Bottom line: Noir knows his tropes and subverts whenever possible.
** Though as counterpoints, sometimes he just blows things up for fun without thinking of the consequences, such as when he attacked WV's ship without taking precautions to secure the ring, or again where he ignores PM and the ring a second time.
*** He also has a blind spot where John is concerned. He gives PM the package intended for John which bites him later, he kills him on his Quest Bed (ensuring his godhood), he seems befuddled that the Breeze keeps him from hunting down his scent, and he sucker stabs him in a fight that would've surely led to him doing something heroic and earning a more permanent death.
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** Possibly tops this in his brutal onscreen murders of the dreamselves of Feferi and Nepeta, two trolls who before playing Sgrub were capable of pulling whales around and murdering animals with no weapons at all.
** Not to mention reducing an entire ''army'' of [[Me's a Crowd|Aradiabots]] to scrap metal, psychic powers and [[Super Strength|robotic strength]] be damned.
** To clarify with John and Rose, one was God Tier and wielding an [[Infinity+1 Sword|Infinity Plus One Hammer]], the other had gone Grimdark and was wielding the power of ancient [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch Abominations.]] John gets taken out ''seconds'' into the fight, and Rose doesn't last much longer than that.
** His total body count, roughly in order: the Black Queen, WV's united Prospitian/Dersite army, most of the population of Prospit, Jade's dream self, Bro, numerous salamanders, John, an alternate Dave, Dad, Mom, John ''again'', Rose, Dave, the Courtyard Droll, the White King, the White Queen, AR, mortally wounding WV, the entire army of Aradiabots, all the trolls' dreamselves save Vriska, all the inhabitants of the trolls' Prospit and Derse, all the inhabitants of the trolls' Lands, and Earth's entire universe.
* [[Hidden Agenda Villain]]: After he becomes the Sovereign Slayer. It's quite telling how in the second recap, every mention of his motivation is followed by "only he knows."
* [[Honor Before Reason]]: When the Parcel Mistress hands over the White King's and Queen's crowns, he hands over Jade's package, just as he promised. Even though it contained the obscenely powerful weapon that precipitated his rise to power in the first place, and the Parcel Mistress certainly couldn't have ''forced'' Jack to give it up. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003861 This turns out to be] ''[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003861 a very bad idea.]''
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** Another echo between (a) the end of the Midnight Crew intermission when Spades Slick poses over the bar scanner with one gouged eye, a missing arms, and a pattern of red laser light on his head and (b) the end of "[S] Jack: Ascend," when Jack is in the same pose after putting on the ring with blood splattered on his forehead.
* [[Ironic Echo Cut]]: The same bloodied hand above is featured in a cut in "[S] Cascade" from when his hands are covered in the blood Jade's killer to when he enters the Troll session right after having rammed his fist through WV.
* [[Leitmotif]]: Not the Ballad of Jack Noir, but rather [https://web.archive.org/web/20130922124122/http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/liquid-negrocity Liquid Negrocity]/[https://web.archive.org/web/20130922083227/http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-2 Black].
* [[Klingon Promotion]]
* [[Lonely Atat the Top]]: He's been bored out of his skull ever since he became omnipotent.
* [[Knife Nut]]: "Here, stick this in your pipe [[Metaphorgotten|and bleed to death slowly.]]"
* [[Marathon Boss]]: His duel with PM has been going on for ''a year'' in-universe. It may be an inversion; Jack himself is still scared shitless and it's PM who's pressing the fight.
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* [[Sinister Silhouettes]]: Becomes synonymous with [[It Got Worse|everything going straight to hell.]]
* [[The Starscream]]: All instances of Skaia have a Jack Noir, who will usually contact the players somehow and help them execute a plan to [[Skippable Boss|exile the Black Queen before they have to fight her]]. The Kids' Jack Noir is [[Off the Rails|a freak case]] in that getting Liv Tyler/The Robo-Bunny allowed him to go after the Queen without the players' help, thus his ascension to [[Big Bad]].
* [[Took a Level Inin Badass]]: Before: [[Obstructive Bureaucrat]]. After: [[Knight of Cerebus|where to]] [[One-Man Army|even begin?]]
* [[Trademark Favorite Food]]: Licorice Scottie Dogs. Both the Troll & Alpha versions of Noir have been seen hording them, though it never came into the story for the main Beta version.
* [[Up to Eleven]]: Does this almost literally when he changes from being a metaphorical Jack of Spades (10) to an Ace (11) when he steals the ring.
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This time, he's taking a... [[Hero-Killer|slightly more direct approach]] in fueling the Prospit-Derse war.
* [[Axe Crazy]]: First thing he does when given some knives in prison? Kill everyone he can reach.
* [[Blood From the Mouth]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006501 Somewhat injured] from [https://web.archive.org/web/20130826062148/http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006500 a head injury.]
* [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]: This version of Jack is already fully aware the success or failure of Derse rests solely on the heroes and their actions. So what does he do? Plans on killing them before they even enter the game, severely reducing their chances of winning.
* [[Disappointed in You]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006794 After opening a pumpkin from Courtyard Droll,] Jack's eyes adjust slightly to convey this [[Dull Surprise]] emotion toward how CD screwed up.
* [[The Dragon]]: To the Alpha Black Queen, aka the Condesce.
* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]: He admits that dedicated people deserve a proper funeral. Well, at least as proper as he could make it.
* [[Everything's Better with Spinning]]: Not Jack Noir himself, but [https://web.archive.org/web/20130826062148/http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006500 his sword] thanks to [[Rule of Funny]].
* [[Genius Bruiser]]: While still being his usual [[Ax Crazy]] self, he apparently has enough technological skill to rewire his prison cell's Sendificator to transport to a specific new location.
* [[Hero-Killer]]: Much like his Beta counterpart. He kills Jane's dreamself before the game even begins. Dirk says they'll have to take him down first to stand a chance of winning.
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* [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill]]: He feels that if you kill a guard by stabbing him in the back with 7 knives and beat his head into a door 88 times it is the proper amount of violence.
** Although 89 times is where he realizes the overkill.
* [[Stealth Expert]]: Among the people and environment of Prospit he sticks out like a sore thumb, so he must have this going for him in order to be able to successfully infiltrate Jane and Jake's towers completely undetected. Then again, Prospitians and Dersites have been seen going to each others' planets without any trouble.
** You'd think the Prospitans would recognize the Archagent of Derse if he showed up in public, so he HAS to be this.
* [[Tap on the Head]]: [https://web.archive.org/web/20130826062148/http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006500 Courtesy of the Alpha White Queen.]
* [[Visual Pun]]: After being knocked out by the White Queen, Jack awakens in a jail cell. [[Chess Motifs|He has been captured]].
 
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* [[Hero-Killer]]: UU's dreamself.
* [[Every Man Has His Price]]: Sweet Scotty Dogs.
* [[Palette Swap]]: Unlike previous Jack Noirs, he wears white clothing.
 
 
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=== Courtyard Droll ===
An Agent of Derse, in the service of Jack Noir. He tries to do important tasks involving stealth and theft, but he's [[Minion with an F In Evil|not really all that good at what he does]].
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* [[Attention Deficit Ooh Shiny]]: [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005568 You are so impressed, you forget what you are supposed to be doing.]
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* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]: He isn't sure killing the heroes before the war begins is a good idea. Despite this, he still goes through with killing Jake's dreamself by feeding him peanuts.
* [[Highly-Visible Ninja]]: Much like his Beta counterpart, he seems to be able to sneak around no matter how ridiculous he looks. He infiltrated Prospit and set up bombs throughout Jane's tower while wearing '''[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006303 this]'''.
* [[Mythology Gag]]: His "you're welcome" embosser is based on a [https://web.archive.org/web/20131008045430/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/22208186938/softowl-ipgd-softowl-derples-a-little real embosser that Hussie made] of the infamous memetic picture of him.
* [[Nice Hat]]: Continues to love ridiculous headgear. In fact, her indifference to it is part of why he likes the new boss. The other part is her ridiculously long hair, which he confuses for this trope.
* [[Not So Harmless]]: As with his other versions, he's got a body count despite being a [[Cloudcuckoolander]].
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=== Black Queen ===
The Queen of Derse. She possesses a [[Ring of Power]] which changes her form to apply the prototyped aspects of the players' sprites when they enter the Medium. While her husband wages the war on the Battlefield, she's perfectly content to just sit around and harass the shit out of Jack Noir.
 
The Troll's version became the member of the Felt known as Snowman, and her tropes can be found [[Homestuck/Characters/The Felt|here]]. The tropes here apply to the Beta Session's iteration, and the final iteration in the Alpha Session was replaced by Betty Crocker, who presumably [[You Kill It, You Bought It|killed her]].
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=== White Queen ===
The Queen of Prospit. She possesses a [[Ring of Power]] which changes her form to apply the prototyped aspects of the players' sprites when they enter the Medium. She's always a long-term planner, willing to concede defeat or sacrifice herself for the long-term goal. The kid's version abdicates the throne in order to aid PM?'s quest to deliver Jade's package.
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* [[Abdicate the Throne]]
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* [[Nice Hat]]: The jester hat that she got thanks to John's prototyping.
* [[Sensible Heroes, Skimpy Villains]]: Her outfit is more modest than the Black Queen's.
* [[What Happened to the Mouse?]]: Her iteration in the Troll Session is never mentioned, which is odd considering the Beta Kid's iteration was full of schemes.
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==== Alpha White Queen ====
Alpha Prospit's queen, who was rather unimpressed to find Jack trying to murder Jane again.
* [[Big Damn Heroes]] / [[Dynamic Entry]]: [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006500 Her debut].
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* [[Carry a Big Stick]]: WQ reminds us that a [[Staff of Authority]] is still a ''weapon''.
 
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=== White King ===
The King of Prospit, who wages war against Derse on the Battlefield at the heart of Skaia. He wields [[Requisite Royal Regalia|a scepter]] which confers upon him increased size and the prototyped aspects of the players' sprites when they enter the medium; the army of Derse seeks this scepter and, when captured, will use it to start the Reckoning, leaving the players just twenty-four hours to defeat the Black King, stop the Reckoning and win the game. The version from the kids' session later hides inside the time capsule in the Frog Temple to survive and become the Writ Keeper on the future Earth. <!-- Tropes here should apply solely to any White King, while the Exile page should apply to the Kid's version -->
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* [[Abdicate the Throne]]
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* [[Magic Wand]]/[[Requisite Royal Regalia]]: The scepter transfers prototypings and apparently also must be captured to stop the Reckoning.
* [[Mix-and-Match Critters]]
* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast]]: His title alone is quite menacing on basic grounds of implying evil.
* [[Nice Hat]]
* [[Time Limit Boss]]
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