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* That, or in a cruel twist of fate, it's the land of Blood and Earth, with no mention of spatiality. Also, [[Mad World|GristFest]].
== Jaspers is [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Rose's father]]. ==
She is the daughter of the [[Mad Scientist|Mad Scientists]] who created the appearifier, among other weird machines we've yet to see. In one unfortunate test run, Mr. Lalonde was [[Baleful Polymorph|accidentally transformed into a cat]] and they were unable to reverse the change. If Jaspers used to be a person, that explains why he is an apparently talking cat who wears tuxedos.
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== Jade's Meteor gets sent back in time to become primordial Earth ==
Going by [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004778 this page,] the meteor is about half the size of the moon. There is no way it can hit Jade's island and leave the general area intact, which we clearly see is the case in the future with the exiles (and no, you can't say the Frog Temple is somehow able to withstand it because we've clearly seen it take damage [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003012 from much] [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003018 smaller things]). Between this and the ever-present [[Stable Time Loop|Weird]] [[Temporal Paradox|Time]] [[Timey
* Jossed in ''[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004827 [S] Jade: Enter]'': Bec destroys the meteor with his First Guardian powers.
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** Jossed.
== The troll's blood is a magical effect, and Karkat is an [[Anti
If you took Karkat's candy-red (which would be the default mundane color) blood and carried it, say, 15-30 feet away from him, it'd turn an olive color, as per his placement. Conversley, If you placed any other troll's blood (even Equius') near Karkat, It would become candy-red until taken away.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005284 Jossed.]
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Red: huge idiot bluh bluh Karkat, plushie-executing nutjob Terezi, lovable losers Gamzee, Tavros and aC, and gA, who seems pleasant enough, [[Chainsaw Good]] notwithstanding.
Blue: Sollux (nice guy who wants nothing to do with this madness), incredible douchebag aG, creepy misanthrobopist cT, the enigmatic cC and cA, and... [[Nightmare Fuel
The only two who don't match up to this scheme are Sollux and Terezi. And the two teams do seem to be working together in the future, judging from the troll logs and what cT did for Tavros, so this may be entirely off-mark. I guess we'll be seeing pretty soon.
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== {{spoiler|Kissing a corpse without a dream self will make them into the undead}} ==
[[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|Nice Job Making It Worse, Heroes]].
* Which would nicely fit with all the "don't turn your back on the body"- business.
* {{spoiler|CONFIRMED?!}}
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Snowman will follow Slick, because why not. Jack Noir will see her, think she's his Black Queen resurrected, freak out -- "Oh god oh god I fucking tore you to pieces and stomped on them and you're still here WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE I KILLED YOU" -- and break down sobbing. It will be hilarious.
* Alternately, Jackspers will promptly flip the fuck out (again) and try to kill her again, and Slick will be forced to step in and help defend Snowman.
** Let's take this further. Noir does kill Snowman, destroying the universe they are currently in and summoning Lord English. [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|Nice job breaking it, villain]].
* One possible variation is Spades Slick finds the ring hidden in the royal vault (if it's the same vault he's currently in), and uses its prototypes to fight against the fully prototyped Jack Noir from the kids' universe (whether or not he's actually Lord English).
** Based off the fact that those prototypes include Feferi and Vriska's Lusus, the battle would be just like Problem Sleuth versus Demonhead Mobster Kingpin. Except you'd be rooting for Demonhead Mobster Kingpin. [[Metaphorgotten|And they're actually the same person]].
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* Jossed.
== The whole [[Have I Mentioned I Am Heterosexual Today?|"I'm not homosexual"]] thing is a huge temporal misunderstanding. ==
John actually ''is'' homosexual (or bisexual). But thanks to [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004690 this conversation], he deduced that Karkat was talking about himself and completely shot down Karkat since he figured that Karkat was right about not having a big make-out session with the trolls and Karkat had probably [[Poor Communication Kills|"GOTTEN TOO WRAPPED UP IN A SORT OF CALIGINOUS IDEAL" or was not "THINKING TOO CLEARLY AT THAT MOMENT"]], and deemed pursuing him to be a bad idea.
* I know this is a [[Het Is Ew]] fandom, but that seems a bit of a stretch.
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Doc Scratch mentions the idea of [http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005710 circumstantial simultaneity] here, while examining the doomed timeline where Vriska fights Jack. Somehow, the idea seems a bit too important to be regulated to a doomed timeline, since Scratch mentions that similar events will lead up to his death. It's not known whether the troll's equivalent to the Beat Mesa survived Jack's rampage, but if it did, they might make an attempt to reset their universe in order to unbork everything that was borked by Jack's appearance.
This, of course, is the event that leads to Jack entering the troll's [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|session in the first place]], as resetting both games at the same time causes them to connect. As Doc Scratch said, Jack's departure didn't have anything to do with the scratch. At least, not the one the ''kids'' cause.
* Jossed by [S] Cascade (if not before)
== Jade's Green Sun Streetsweeper will have the power of reality warping. ==
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== The Trolls fail at everything they do, which will soon become advantageous. ==
They tried trolling the kids. [[Friendly Enemy|Didn't work out.]] Then they actually did try helping the kids. [[Bad Future|Didn't work out.]] However, the kids won't realize that was accidental and will be beyond angry with the trolls, who will respond by trying to more directly sabotage them. [[Nice Job Fixing It, Villain|Won't work out.]]
* This has played out to some extent already. {{spoiler|[[Word of God]] confirmed gallowsCalibrator intended to get John killed from the start. [[Nice Job Fixing It, Villain|Her manipulation has instead aided three of the kids in this timeline.]] If the other trolls start following suit and try to get the kids killed, this may play out.}}
== The war between Light and Darkness will have no winners. ==
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== The game is designed to [[No Fair Cheating|screw you over]]... if you try to cheat. ==
While not explicitly mentioned as such, there are two instances, the [[Bad Future]] and the current [[Timey
* John uses a Jetpack to jump ahead into his 7th gate, and (presumably) dies soonafter. This means he can't get Jade to enter the game, and the game is presumed [[Unwinnable]] by Dave and Rose.
* Jade, seeing a vision of a crying John, send him [[Game Breaker]] to help him in his time of need. When Jack Noir gets his hand on it, the end result is that the Reckoning is kicked off far earlier than it should have been, ultimately resulting in the crying scene the present was meant to comfort.
In both instances, it's due to the fact that [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|somebody tried to cheat the game]] for an easy win. The lesson here? DON'T [[Precision F
* The irony is that, without the jetpack and Fear No Anvil, John would never have got those paradox clone babies launched before the kids' brought-forward Reckoning. Two wrongs make a right?
** The jetpack might be a borderline case, where flying over encounters deprives you of experience you might need later, and the hammer's code was earned legitimately in an already-doomed future, so between that and the necessity of the paradox clones, the game might have been lenient enough to let that slide.
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* The reason the Human's game influenced the Troll's is because they were tied together by the Trolls meddling with the Kid's timeline. Sollux didn't do anything of the sort.
== During the [[LARP]] session, [[Explosive Instrumentation|AG's eyepiece will explode.]] ==
It will turn [[Eye Scream|her left eye]] and left arm into a blue bloody mess, and lead her to look like her [[Eyepatch of Power|appearance in]] [[Artificial Limbs|the present.]] [[Laser
== The Trolls' species evolved from the Exiles from a previous game of Sburb played by kids from a past civilization on their world. ==
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