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* ''[[Crimson Tide]]''
* ''[[U-571]]'' does this, with the Americans in the captured German U-Boat destroying another submerged German U-Boat with torpedoes.
* ''[[G.I. Joe: theThe Rise of Cobra]]'' features what amounts to a dogfight [[In Space|UNDER WATER!]]
** It also features what amounts to the trench run in ''[[Star Wars]]'' Episode 4 [[In Space|UNDER WATER!]].
* ''[[Down Periscope]]'' involves a wargame that tests if a rogue [[World War Two]]-era diesel submarine, run by a [[Ragtag Bunch of Misfits]], is capable of outmaneuvering the US Navy and cause significant damage to major ports. The diesel's main opponent? A ''[[wikipedia:Los Angeles class submarine|Los Angeles]]'' class nuclear attack sub.
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* ''[[The Abyss]]'' deserves a mention here. The minisubs involved aren't fighting with weapons- they're fighting ''over'' a weapon.
** And fighting without weapons means ramming each other, brutally. Brilliant, and vastly under-rated action sequence.
* Another particularly brutal minisub duel occurs in the [[James Bond (Filmfilm)|James Bond]] film ''[[For Your Eyes Only (Filmfilm)|For Your Eyes Only]]''. The bad guy's sub was actually piloted by the man who designed it, Graham Hawkes, who, amusingly, tried so hard to make the fight scene realistic (having been ordered to by the director, despite his earlier protests it was unsafe) that he almost killed [[Roger Moore]]'s stunt double.
* ''Run Silent Run Deep'' depends on, and arguably laid the groundwork for this trope {{spoiler|since it turns out the Japanese vessel taking out American subs in the Bungo Straits is not a surface vessel, but another submarine}}.
** It is torpedoed when it is lured to the surface rather then under the surface. The original writer was a submariner himself and knew perfectly well that it was pretty much impossible for one submerged submarine to torpedo another in [[World War II]].
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== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Sea QuestSeaQuest DSV]]'', in its third season had [[Rule of Cool|actual]] [[Space Fighter|''sub fighters'']] - the Specter-class for [[The Federation|the UEO forces]], and a host of other types for various bad guys forces.
** The Japanese actually have the best sub-fighter pilots, since they have brain implants that jack into the sub-fighters and control the craft by thought. During the one episode they're shown, they manage to destroy one of the ''SeaQuest'' sub-fighters, piloted by a semi-regular character. She is promptly replaced by a rogue Japanese female pilot. Yes, they kill off one [[Twofer Token Minority]] (a black woman) to immediately replace her with another.
 
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* ''[[X-COM]]: Terror From The Deep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.
** Also, for the sake of completeness, the submarines in the game are ''flying'' submarines. That's right: sufficient velocity to break the surface of the water means you can activate turbo jets and fly! Weapons only work underwater though (which generally makes sense: torpedoes don't have the right engines, the powerful sonic cannon apparently has vastly decreased range when you're traveling faster than the speed of sound, and the omni-powerful Pulse Wave Torpedo actually requires water to work properly).
* ''[[Supreme Commander (Video Game)|Supreme Commander]]'' features submarines as an entry level navel unit, but due to the lack of decent anti-submarine weapons, they tend to be used in massed fleets late game. The only real counter to these fleets are more submarines as destroyers(the anti-submarine boat) are simply to expensive to produce in large numbers.
** The ''Forged Alliance'' expansion pack adds torpedo bombers for each of the factions as a counter to this. Like the destroyer, they cannot be mass-produced in the numbers that submarines can, but it can destroy enemy subs without risking being hit by return fire (from the subs).
* ''[[Naval Ops|Warship Gunner 2]]'' allows you to engage enemy subs underwater if you're controlling a submarine. Note that you are completely [[Point Defenseless]] while submerged and submarines usually attack with torpedoes.