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See also [[My Kung Fu Is Stronger Than Yours]] and [[Rasputinian Death]].
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== Anime and Manga ==
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** Justified with Majin Buu, since he's basically a giant wad of chewing gum.
* ''[[Naruto]]'' normally does a decent job of avoiding this since most characters focus more on avoiding hits than taking them and even the strongest enemy can't just sit there and take things like knives without flinching, but several fights stand out, particularly the conflict between Naruto and Sasuke right before the [[Filler]]. It's pretty much a fight to see who can get up more times from a rock-shattering blow.
** The majority of that was just added to the anime, though ({{spoiler|6-Tails Naruto vs. Pain}} was even worse in that aspect). What was really the indication of who was winning was who had to rely on their [[Super
*** {{spoiler|Well, keep in mind that the fight was 6-Tails Naruto vs Pain...'s last animated corpse. So we've got a monster made mainly of chakra with a human body somewhere in the middle versus a guy fighting from miles away using a dead body as a glorified puppet. It makes sense that neither one would really SHOW a lot of damage being taken since the two guys fighting aren't even on the front lines.}}
* It's a good thing people watch ''[[Bobobo Bobobobo]]'' for the humor, because the bizarre fighting styles make it almost impossible to tell what moves are supposed to be powerful enough to finish off an opponent. (In early episodes, it was usually by following up a particularly confusing sequence with a direct nose hair attack.)
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* In ''[[The Prince of Tennis]]'', Kabaji and Kawamura's match in the Hyoutei arc is literally like this. {{spoiler|And it WAS a part of Kawamura's [[Batman Gambit]], who since the beginning wanted to [[Taking You With Me|force Kabaji into a draw]].}} To some degree, also Kawamura's match against Gin Ishida. {{spoiler|And it worked too... but pretty much by fluke.}}
* A beatdown of this sort happens between the two Rival Protagonists in {{spoiler|the last few minutes of the final episode of}} the anime ''[[Scryed]]. '' It winds up being far more brutal than anything the villains ever put them through, -- almost [[Nightmare Fuel|offputtingly so]].
* The Dio Brando-versus-Joutarou Kujou Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny in ''[[Jo
* Happens between Shirou and {{spoiler|Kotomine Kirei}} in the finale of the Heaven's Feel route of ''[[Fate Stay Night]]'', while both of them are virtually dead, nonetheless - {{spoiler|Kirei's heart was destroyed by Sakura ''two days'' ago,}} and Shirou {{spoiler|is all but overtaken/corrupted by Archer's arm, which is quite literally ''turning his body into swords'' because he used its projection capacities}}. The fight is basically two walking corpses brutally beating each other to death. {{spoiler|Shirou wins, but only because Kirei's time runs out first, just as he's about to kill him. Shirou ([[Multiple Endings|possibly]]) follows suit under a minute later, though, and the [[Tear Jerker]] ending [[Killed Off for Real|expands on this concept...]]}}
** And a route before that in Unlimited Blade Works, we have Shirou vs. {{spoiler|Archer.}} Outclassed in skill and power, has a broken arm, a broken leg, shattered fingers, is bleeding profusely, and is much to his opponent's surprise, ''still able to parry and attack''.
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** The fact that everyone in the series has [[From a Single Cell]] regeneration and are [[Nigh Invulnerable]] to boot makes it difficult, but there is a rule of thumb- has Alucard done something so far beyond badass it comes out the other side and ends up being silly yet? He's probably losing. But he'll win in the end.
** Except for his final battle, which is so far beyond weaksauce it comes out the other side and ends up being deeply compelling.
* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' has normally made sure to emphasize the character's mortality during combat (such as things like sharpened stone spears being fatal like they should be). Then the match between Negi & Kotaro against Kagetaro & Rakan came about and threw all that out the window. {{spoiler|The match started with Raken being pummled by [[Full Contact Magic|magically-enforced]] punches moving at [[Super Speed|over lightning speed]], being driven into the ground with a concentrated blast of [[Blow You Away|tropical squall-level winds]], then culminating in being at the center of an explosion of [[Shock and Awe|lightning]] [[No Kill Like Overkill|with enough heat to vapourize small mountains]]. [[The Juggernaut|He got back up]]. Then proceeded to beat the person who did it to him with punches of enough strength to kill high-level dragons and shatter large sections of earth. Repeatedly (supposedly by this point his organs should've been turned to mush; a [[High
** The fight is now over. {{spoiler|Both parties ended up running out of magic before they took down the other guy, so they ended up engaging in [[Good Old Fisticuffs]]. At that point, they both fainted from exhaustion.}}
* In ''[[Black Lagoon]]'', {{spoiler|Revy and Roberta}} end up settling their differences in a fistfight that ends up being a very good example of this trope. The end result is draw by [[Cross Counter]] (although {{spoiler|Roberta}} isn't knocked out, which technically makes her the winner).
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** But still, they are equally strong until slain or poisoned. Wounds are just a cosmetic issue.
*** This is deliberate, as the whole premise of the comic is "people living in a world that works like the D&D rules"; Therefore, while they are getting wounded (losing HP) it doesn't actually impair them - just like it doesn't in D&D.
* Lampshaded by ''[[
{{quote| '''Thief''': He was remarkably spry for being so close to defeat.<br />
'''Red Mage''': This is why we should really play by the grim and gritty rules. Rather, our '''opponents''' should. Like hell I'm not gonna use my AC. }}
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* Of course, seeing as it's based off ''[[Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros Z]]'' is a big offender. The worst was probably the Team Mario/Axem [[Rangers/Koopa Bros|Koopa Bros]] melee. Can anyone truly say that Axem Yellow's hammer attack he performed on Sonic, should have left Sonic with no problem? That still does not stop the fights from being FREAKING AWESOME.
** What about Axem Red slashing the shit out of Mario with his axe (doing seemingly little damage, if any at all) while {{spoiler|both Green and Black were killed by a single axe swipe}} later? Not to mention Mecha Sonic being able to soak up a ton of attacks from various sources, yet being knocked out of his [[Nigh Invulnerable]] [[Super Mode]] by {{spoiler|[[Collision Damage]] Mario and Sonic ''sharing'' a star?}}
*** Sharing a {{spoiler|'''''[[Invincibility Power
* Tennyo vs. the Arch-Fiend, in the story ''Boston Brawl'' of the [[Whateley Universe]]. It just keeps escalating, and they just keep healing up, all the way until a building falls on them. They both get up from it {{spoiler|but the Arch-Fiend is out of energy, and Tennyo is just pissed off.}}
** Averted with Sara, who has similar regeneration abilities. Getting cut in half meant she was pretty much doomed, and needed to eat FAST. Fortunately, some minions are nearby.
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