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* Sort of used with [[Lampshade Hanging]] in ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' A's. Both combatants think that they're losing and wonder if they will to be forced to use their ultimate weapon.
* Basically the default form of combat in ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]: Advent Children''. It demonstrates how well video-game-style fights translate to a non-video-game medium: Not well.
** This is averted Advent Children Complete. Many scenes were revised, and fights now show battle damage.
* This is played painfully straight in ''[[Devil Hunter Yohko]]'': each of the demons is [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil|assuredly stronger than its predecessor]], but when they're functionally identically sacks of muscle and claw, this is only apparent to the viewer when the protagonists give up earlier than before after going through a [[Strictly Formula]] battle scene before the [[My Name Is Inigo Montoya]] moment.
* ''[[Ultimate Muscle]]''. Sure, that "Ultimate Muscle" power can account for a sudden comeback, and the protagonist's sheer [[Heroic Resolve]] probably counts for something... but somewhere around the third time he gets thrashed until he can barely stand up, only to start fighting back a few minutes later with renewed energy, it just gets ridiculous.
** Hell, that's nothing. In the original Kinnikuma's tag-team arc, Terryman gets impaled by floor tiles decorated with swords twice. The first time is painful, but the second time is bad enough to kill him. {{spoiler|He gets better.}}
* ''[[Rurouni Kenshin]]'', the battle between Sanosuke and Monk Anji has the two trading Futai no Kiwami blows, each supposed to be able to pulverize rocks into dust. The final blow? Sano develops the sucession move to the Futai no Kiwami on the spot.
** Kenshin does acknowledge that neither fighter should be on their feet and that it is their will and not their bodies keeping them on their feet. After Sano wins the fight, he is the one in need of medical attention and is out of commission for some time because the repeated blows almost killed him.
** This happens a little later in Kenshin's final battle with Shishioh, after taking multiple hits from Kenshin's ultimate technique and being struck directly in the face by a Futai no Kiwami. Eventually it ends with {{spoiler|Shishio helpless on the ground, being protected by Yumi whom he takes advantage of by stabbing her to seriously wound Kenshin. With both of them on the ground, various members of the team states that the first one to get up will win easily, as the other will be helpless. Kenshin totally collapses, bleeding out, and Shishio manages to stand, maniacally cackling as he thinks he's won before ''bursting into flames'' (his body heat became so intense that it caused the fats and oils in his blood to ignite, as he has no sweat glands). Holy shit.}}
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* A beatdown of this sort happens between the two Rival Protagonists in {{spoiler|the last few minutes of the final episode of}} the anime ''[[S-Cry-ed]]. '' It winds up being far more brutal than anything the villains ever put them through, -- almost [[Nightmare Fuel|offputtingly so]].
* The Dio Brando-versus-Joutarou Kujou Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny in ''[[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' part 3 is perhaps one of the most overlooked examples (WRYYYYYYYY and the steamroller eclipse it, but are aspects of it). The sequence danced gleefully into this territory (STEAMROLLER) and never left until the battle was over. Not only do you get Jojo and Dio trying to out-beatdown one another, you get then trying to outsmart, and eventually {{spoiler|out-TIMESTOP one another, culminating in a simultaneous-punches-connect-simultaneously that holds off the conclusion JUST LONG ENOUGH...}}
* Happens between Shirou and {{spoiler|Kotomine Kirei}} in the finale of the Heaven's Feel route of ''[[Fate/stay night]]'', while both of them are virtually dead, nonetheless - {{spoiler|Kirei's heart was destroyed by Sakura ''two days'' ago,}} and Shirou {{spoiler|is all but overtaken/corrupted by Archer's arm, which is quite literally ''turning his body into swords'' because he used its projection capacities}}. The fight is basically two walking corpses brutally beating each other to death. {{spoiler|Shirou wins, but only because Kirei's time runs out first, just as he's about to kill him. Shirou ([[Multiple Endings|possibly]]) follows suit under a minute later, though, and the [[Tear Jerker]] ending [[Killed Off for Real|expands on this concept...]]}}
** And a route before that in Unlimited Blade Works, we have Shirou vs. {{spoiler|Archer.}} Outclassed in skill and power, has a broken arm, a broken leg, shattered fingers, is bleeding profusely, and is much to his opponent's surprise, ''still able to parry and attack''.
* Don't even try guessing who is winning on ''[[Hellsing]]''. Even if someone has been decapitated, shot in the head, impaled a bajillion times and stuck to the wall, they've still got it under control. Really.
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* Jango Fett's backstory/tribute comic ends with him and his [[Cycle of Revenge|lifelong archnemesis]] brutally beating each other down on a spaceship and then on the planet below. This fight mostly refrains from the "two supercharged beings no discernible damage" part of the trope listed above: both of them take a beating and show it (especially after Fett slashes Vizsla's belly open).
* [[The Punisher]] regularly suffers injuries that would render a normal man utterly comatose, if not dead. This is because he is [[Made of Iron]]. Once a shotgun blast blew one of his ribs clean out (!) and he kept on fighting.
* [[Batman]] has also suffered phenomenal physical trauma and kept going.
** Of course he has. He's [[Batman]].
* ''[[Sin City]]'' characters are generally hard to put down. Marv is probably the main offender. In his original story, he gets run over with a car mutliple times in a row, gets beaten by a [[Serial Killer]], and is still perfectly healthy enough to fight an entire SWAT team of federal agents... all in the span of one night. Cardinal Roark even mentioned how hard he was to stop.
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== Fanfiction ==
* In ''[[Troper Works/Ultimate Sleepwalker|Ultimate Sleepwalker: The New Dreams]]'', the battles between Sleepwalker and Psyko tend to be vicious bloodbaths from which the participants emerge more dead than alive. It's made worse by their [[Reality Warper|ability to warp physical objects]], which lead to them flaying each other with sharpened steel spikes, smashing each other through concrete walls, electrocuting each other with high-voltage wires, and catching each other in the middle of exploding sewer pipes and tanker trucks, oftentimes all in the same battle.
== Film ==
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== Tabletop Games ==
* ''Fudge'' is one of few tabletop RPGs that actually weakens people as they get beat up, using a wound track (boxes under wound categories that get filled in), with hurt and very hurt wound boxes. A hurt is a significant penalty, and it will be obvious, a very hurt is a huge penalty, and will be just absurdly obvious.
** ''[[Mutants and Masterminds]]'' does the same thing. It seems that in the games where systems other than hit points are used this is extremely prevalent.
*** Although, in the default implementation, wounds and bruises only affected your ability to take further damage. An optional rule (usually invoked for Iron Age games) stipulates that all rolls suffer a penalty. Taking a significant enough blow can leave you stunned, staggered, unconscious, disabled, or dying (specific states that hamper your actions).
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** But still, they are equally strong until slain or poisoned. Wounds are just a cosmetic issue.
*** This is deliberate, as the whole premise of the comic is "people living in a world that works like the D&D rules"; Therefore, while they are getting wounded (losing HP) it doesn't actually impair them - just like it doesn't in D&D.
* Lampshaded by ''[[8-Bit Theater
{{quote|'''Thief''': He was remarkably spry for being so close to defeat.
'''Red Mage''': This is why we should really play by the grim and gritty rules. Rather, our '''opponents''' should. Like hell I'm not gonna use my AC. }}
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* Tennyo vs. the Arch-Fiend, in the story ''Boston Brawl'' of the [[Whateley Universe]]. It just keeps escalating, and they just keep healing up, all the way until a building falls on them. They both get up from it {{spoiler|but the Arch-Fiend is out of energy, and Tennyo is just pissed off.}}
** Averted with Sara, who has similar regeneration abilities. Getting cut in half meant she was pretty much doomed, and needed to eat FAST. Fortunately, some minions are nearby.
** It bears mentioning with the above fight that Tennyo is an intentional [[God Mode Sue]]; the writer attempts a [[Deconstruction]].
== Western Animation ==
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