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== Note: Before posting a question, ask yourself "Can this be answered by [[Rule of Funny]]?" If the answer is "Yes", consider whether posting it is a good idea. ''And keep in mind that this page is for actual questions, NOT senseless ranting.'' ==

 

* In a universe that Apple, the company that popularized the i- prefix, (such as iPod, iPhone, etc.) , is replaced by Pear, a company that uses the Pear- prefix, (such as Pear Pod, Pear Phone, Etc.) how does the name iCarly make any sense?

** The tv-show is named to mean something in our world, then fit backwards into the iCarly universe. In our world it's associated with Apple (but wasn't invented by them, nor was the actual idea of a 'prefix' for example e-mail etc). Apple not existing doesn't change the sense in naming the webshow iCarly:

** Would that mean that there will be a webshow in the future known as Pear Carly?

 

== Show demographics and marketing. ==

* One thing I don't get is how long this show can last while being marketed to 8 year olds. Carly, Sam, Freddie etc. are only going to get older. How is an 8 year old going to relate to a 25 year old who has a webshow?

*** The show has a very wide demographic. It works for 8 year olds to 18 year olds (especially in season 3), and also has a big [[Periphery Demographic]] because of the [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|innuendo and stuff they get under the radar]] (it's at [[Western Animation]] levels, which says alot). Plus, how long it'll last is probably going to depend on the main cast. Physically, the kids are almost done with puberty, and their in-show ages are still only about 16. It's the same thing that happened with [[Drake and Josh]]. The only reason that ended is because the guys who played [[Drake and Josh]] wanted to move on.

**** This show is a ''Teen'' Nick show. It's for preteens and teenagers.

 

== The Peruvian Puff Pepper. ==

 

== After seeing the Kids Choice Awards, does anyone else find it interesting... ==

** I'm guessing all the new found Bieber related friends couldn't get past the amount of total iCarly fans. Who else was up for that award Selena won? The other nick stars probably split the vote. [[Miranda Cosgrove]] suffers from [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]] for a reason, and that reason is a lot of the Jenette/Sam fans.

*** For favorite actress? She was also against Miley Cyrus, Miranda Cosgrove and Victoria Justice.

 

== Where does the door in the Shay's kitchen lead? ==

 

== Where are the trolls? ==

* Are you kidding me? Maybe they're absent because an episode centering around people posting porn and screetching poorly spelled racial epithets would be a poor choice for what's primarily supposed to be a kids show?

* Where are all the trolls for real [[Web Original]] series?

== Jennette's new show ==

* I could post this on Dan's headscratchers page, but i'm posting it here where it's more likely to be noticed. We already know that iCarly is ending production in June, because I know that Miranda is going off to college and has outgrown the show. I don't know about Nathan, but if Jennette is older than either of them and most of the Victorious cast (will be 20 in June), then wouldn't she be too old to start her own show with him by then? How will this work?

*** True, I can understand why you'd think that (Nick not caring about ages of their stars), because [[Big Time Rush]] is still on and the guys there are well over 18. But where did you hear of Drake Bell being on it? I thought he and Josh had moved on from Schneiderverse (though he has been in A Fairly Odd Movie and Rags). With that said, i'm pretty sure Dan will begin Jennette's show after iCarly has wrapped up for good.

 

== iPilot = 13 million viewers in one airing or two? ==

* Okay, this has been getting at me for a while. I have a very hard time believing that iPilot's 13 million viewers were in one telecast when it premiered on September 8, 2007. I remember hearing that they WERE in two, and the second had around ~30% more than the first. Dan Schneider has mentioned that iSaved Your Life was the most watched episode ever with 11.2 million, and that Victorious had the most watched live action premiere in Nickelodeon history with 5.7. And if memory serves, iWant More Viewers after iPilot had 3.7 million, so I have a hard time believing that a 13 million would serve as a lead-in into a 3.7 million. If the Victorious premiere WAS #1 (or #2 if you count Big Time School of Rocque and its 6.8 million), then iPilot's first airing must have had like, .1 million less...I can't spin my head around this.

** Victorious does not have the most watched live action premiere in Nick history. Schneider stated this but the information is false. The title still belongs to Big Time Rush.

 

** [[Adults Are Useless]], with a generous dose of [[Rule of Funny]].

** It was a [[Running Gag]]. At least twice before in the episode, Freddie got blamed for whatever was going on with the locker.

** Don't forget [[Status Quo Is God]]!

 

== ''iPsycho'', Gibby not calling the police. ==

* Why didn't Gibby just call the cops and tell them that the iCarly kids were locked up in Nora's house? Why waste time going all the way to Olympia when the police would've been there in maybe 10 minutes?

*** Why did Gibby spend hours trying to get $5 out of a tree? Why was he so excited to massage Spencers back? Why does he take his shirt off? Why does Gibby do anything? Calling the cops would have been far too logical for Gibby.

*** And when you think about how dumb Gibby is portrayed in the first two seasons, you cab see how he forget to call the cops, and Spencer. He isn't as dumb as he was back then, not to the point of Flanderization, IPWV proves how dumb he can be.

Ok this bugs me. In [[I Get]] Pranky Drake and Josh is a TV show within the show itself, that's fine, but THEN we get the cameos in [[I Start]] A Fan War. How does this work!? Is Drake and Josh a show in the setting or not?

* That is like questioning how "[[Terminator|John Connor sends Kyle Reese to the past to protect his mother without knowing Kyle would be John's own father]]" works. There's already the [[Celebrity Paradox]] of Carly AND Craig/Eric not recognizing Carly's resemblance to Megan, plus the Parker-Nichols Hotel (and many more D&J elements) also exist within the iCary-verse. I don't find it a big deal if the writers would like to inject some reference to the D&J AND having it exist in iCarly.

** The way I see it, is one of the following:

*** That there is some kind of [[Literary Agent Hypothesis]] going on, and that in the Schneiderverse, Crazy Steve, Megan, Craig and Eric (and probably Lola and anyone else who was played by the same person but different characters on Zoey 101 and iCarly) were played by different people for the non-real life 'in-universe' version of [[Drake and Josh]].

*** This breaks down though because of the [[Serious Business]] of iCarly's webshow and Shelby Marx's fighting fame. How come none of their fans point out the resemblance between them and Carly and Tori respectfully?

** I think it wasn't they ''can't'' sue but that they ''won't'' sue. Sam was a pretty bad person in that episode, but I don't think Carly and Freddie would be willing to sue little children. Sam didn't have much grounds to sue them.

*** That'd work out great for Sam.. suing the kids:

Kids: "You were running an underage sweat-shop, we're telling the cops." }}

 

== Does Nick even care about the shit they are dishing up these days? ==

No wonder their ratings are falling into the toilet. They obviously don't care about oversight, not if they let complete crap like iApril Fool get filmed when people want more realistic, emotional/dramatic and character based stories for the trio.

** While it's true that some people think Nick has been dishing out nothing but crap lately, i'm starting to be convinced that Nielsen is at least somewhat at fault for the lower ratings. Why? Because a user named Jon23812 mentioned on the pages for both iOpen a Restaurant and Driving Tori Crazy (on their respective Wikis) that Nielsen has changed their 25,000 people that determine what's being watched or something like that. Still not convinced? Look at some of the recent cable top 25 tables. So in short, it's not like it's just Nickelodeon and Disney that have been getting hit lately. Clearly, something is up with Nielsen and they need to change soon.

 

*** Carly isn't NEARLY as bad as Megan was.

**** This troper always found Megan the only reason to watch that show. She was the only character who wasn't an idiot. But then I feel the same way about Alex and ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' and Sam is my favorite character here. I guess I have a thing for evil girls.

== One parent only theme. ==

* This doesn't just apply to iCarly, but to recent Dan Schneider shows - What's with the "one parent only" theme that's been occurring recently? It's only in Drake and Josh and iCarly, but I'm thinking it might become a continuing theme. Drake and Megan have a mom, no dad. Josh has a dad, no mom. Carly and Spencer have no mom, Freddie's got no dad, and Sam doesn't have a dad. Was Dan Schneider missing a parent or something?

** [[Economy Casting|It's mostly a money-saving device]]. Most of these shows try to have a maximum "main cast" of about 5 people, including adults and kids, and as such shows for kids would rather be about the kids. The reason they don't explain that stuff is because it's not really necessary in a comedic show. I mean, if Carly's mom is dead.. you can't really do a funny episode about that, can you now.

** ''[[Drake and Josh]]'' had Drake, Josh, Megan, and 2 parents.

** ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' has Alex, Justin, Max, Harper and the 2 parents.

** ''[[Hannah Montana]]'' has 2 teenage characters, 2 sidekicks, Rico, and 1 father.

** Is "insert other weird name" a real name?

** You've nearly insulted some people named Fredward. Yes, it's a real name.

** Does it matter? People make up names for their kids all the time.

 

** Sam's expression in ''iSpeed Date'' didn't really show (in my opinion) that she was in love with Freddie.

* I thought it was just something that she was feeling for a while but has trouble expressing her feelings? I guess her [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|being incredibly hostile towards Freddie was her way of showing affection]].

** Well Dan's not exactly the best when it comes to build up. I think he has all the ideas in his mind as to why this works, but it didn't translate on screen. If you wanna reach far enough: Sam is extremely abrasive and especially to Freddie, and after iKiss, she might have been developing some sort of feelings. I mean, in iTTK, Sam brought up their kiss, and it seems too far fetched for laughing has to magically bring secrets like that up. It must've been on her mind at the time. Shows like this that adhere religiously to the status quo make it impossible for any development to occur. And besides, apparently it's hilarious for Sam to grievously injure Freddie...*cough* Also, there may have been pressure to keep the status quo as well between the 3 best friends. Note how Sam was nice and helpful when alone with Freddie and Brad. I guess Brad was just an excuse? I mean they are a bit more civilized whenever Carly isn't around. Hopefully Dan realistically explains this, because I like this ship and I don't want some lazy ass-pull.

*** The funny thing is that the subsequent episodes appear to show that Freddie seems to legitimately believe Sam hates him, and because one of the major indications that something is wrong is that Sam starts hanging around Freddie, it makes it look like Sam and Freddie's friendship is barely there and they never spend time along together. I think anyone looking at the arc objectively can see the arc itself has several ''massive'' flaws in addition to the whole [[Stockholm Syndrome]] plot where Freddie gets bullied and emotionally abused and called worthless for 5 years then turns around and likes the girl who was doing it.

** Was eventually referred to. Sam pushed Freddie into an oncoming bike courier. The courier hit Freddie and caused him to fall face first into a fire hydrant. While he was bleeding from the ears, Sam suddenly decided he was cute. There. That's the true love of Sam/Freddie. Likely to have happened just before ''iOMG'' based on Sam's unchanged behaviour previous to that episode.

 

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