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== Fan Works ==
* In ''[[Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality]]'', Harry learns methods of deception at higher levels, such that this becomes invoked. If you want to pretend that you don't know anything about something, you don't say "I don't know", you act as you anticipate your opponent anticipating your actions if you didn't
* Played with in ''[[My Immortal]]''. When <s> Ebony</s> Enoby travels back in time, she knows that <s>Snape</s> Snoop possessed <s>James</s> Samaro and made him kill <s>Lucious</s> Lucian. She, however, did not "want them to know [she] knew." Whether or not Tom knew she knew is not made clear, but it is likely, as {{spoiler|he is Volxemort and commanded Snop.}} "Suddenly it's a [[Sitcom]]," the dramatic reading snarked at this bit.
** Tom knew she knew that he knew that Snoop worked for Volxemort and possessed Samaro and... it kind of melts from there.
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== Films -- Live-Action ==
* ''[[The Princess Bride (film)|The Princess Bride]]'' has this between Vizzini and the Man in Black, as he attempts to figure out [[Poisoned Chalice Switcheroo|which goblet contains the poison]]. (See the Literature entry below.) Subverted in that Vizzini isn't really trying to reason it out; he's just throwing possibilities at the Man in Black to see if any of them gets a reaction. If he were ''really'' playing
** If Vizzini were paying attention to his own line of reasoning, he might have realized that he was getting dangerously close to the truth (as shown by the Man in Black getting increasingly nervous in this scene in the book) that {{spoiler|neither goblet was safe to drink from}}.
* ''[[The Lion in Winter]]'' played this straight, albeit slightly lampshaded, complete with the line itself from [[Manipulative Bastard|Prince Geoffrey]]: "I know. You know I know. I know you know I know, we know that Henry knows and Henry knows we know it. We're a ''knowledgeable'' family."
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** Zhuge Liang is the '''master''' of this trope. Various plans include:
*** Empty City: Zhuge Liang sits alone in an empty city playing his harp while a rival army comes up. They know that Zhuge is a genius and is obviously up to something. Knowing they would know this, the city ''really is empty'', and the whole thing was a stall tactic. That worked.
*** Two Roads: Cao Cao is leading his army through a mountain pass when he comes to a fork in the road, one direction he can see a lot of smoke as you would expect from army camp fires; down the other he sees ''very'' little smoke. Obviously, the big smoke path is a ruse and the little smoke path is an ambush. Actually?
* Played with in ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]''. Edward and Alice Cullen play a [[Chess]] game by using their abilities to figure out what move the other is going to make next... and countering... and being countered... and countering again... and so on.... The game is finished in their minds before two pieces are physically moved.
* A children's book titled ''Finding Buck McHenry'', about a man who may or may not be a retired pro baseball player, has the young narrator going, "I knew. And he knew that I knew. And I knew that he knew that I knew. Stop. You're making yourself dizzy." {{spoiler|The story Mack Henry eventually tells is half true; he did play baseball as a young man, but he wasn't the same man the kids are confusing him with.}}
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** Parodied in the same episode, when Monica walks into the apartment and dramatically says, "They know." Cue the confusion.
* Similar to the above example (but fewer levels), Richie in ''[[The Class (TV series)|The Class]]'' must determine how Duncan's date went for Nicole, but since he's a [[Bad Liar]], he ends up revealing Nicole's secret, then Duncan's secret, then both.
* During Draft Day betting at ''[[Sports Night]]'' Dana and Casey try to figure out if the other knows anything about Tommy Castro's knees, and if so, do they know that the other person actually doesn't know anything about... etc. Ends when Casey explains the entire
* The ''[[Doctor Who]]'' one-off comedy special ''The Curse of the Fatal Death'' has the Doctor and the Master engaging in a round of this. Since both have access to time machines, it quickly gets complicated.. ("624 years in a sodding sewer!")
** Also in the regular series episode "Let's Kill Hitler", between the Doctor and River. {{spoiler|Though it doesn't matter, because she's already poisoned him.}}
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I don't want to be sitting here<br />
Trying to deceive you<br />
'Cause
That I don't wanna go'' }}
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== Radio ==
* John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme, Ep. 3, gives us this brilliant example. Warning: Any and all attempts at comprehension may result in brain damage.
** Bob: Okay. I want you to listen very carefully and tell me if I've got this right. You're angry about what you think I said about what you said about what you thought I said (but we now both agree I didn't say) about what you thought I thought you thought about what I did when you did what you did when I didn't do what you thought I said I would do but what I thought I said I would try to do, is that right?<br />Alice: Yes.<br />Bob: Yeah I thought so. Well I didn't say that.<br />Alice: Yes you did! You said you couldn't believe I said what I said about what I thought you said (but which we do agree you didn't say) because you thought I said I said what I said not because you didn't do what you said you'd do but because you said you'd do it, and that makes me feel that you feel that I feel that you don't feel what I feel.<br />Bob: You know I feel you feel I feel what you feel.<br />Alice: Yes but I don't feel you know I know that and that's why I said what I said.<br />Bob: What did you say?<br />Alice: That sometimes, I think you're a little over-analytical--<br />Bob: Bollocks.
== Sport ==
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* This is often done by the players themselves during wifi [[Pokémon]] battles. Ha, you've sent out your [[Sea Monster|Gyarados]] against my [[Starfish Aliens|Starmie]]? I'll just use [[Shock and Awe|Thunderbolt]] to exploit your [[For Massive Damage|4x weakness]] to electricity! But you know I'll do that. So you'll [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors|switch in a ground type that will be immune]], so I should use [[Making a Splash|Surf]]. But you know that I know that you know, so you'll leave in Gyarados, letting it soak up the [[No Sell|not-very-effective hit]] in exchange for hitting me with [[Death or Glory Attack|Giga Impact]]; therefore, I should use Thunderbolt after all. But you know that I know that you know that I know, so you'll switch out, and--
** Tthe opponent is in the exact same situation because you could [[Take a Third Option]]: switch out ''yourself'' into say a Grass-type that could handle either Water or Ground (and other options exist, so unless all of the opponent's Pokemon have already been revealed, you never know what may be brought out next).
* [[Platform Game]]: Any type of this game can have this trope come into play with various types of trap like the [[Pressure Plate]] trap or [[Kaizo Trap]]. One example is in [[Limbo]], which has one a [[Pressure Plate]] trap, and then another right after. This leads to the
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== Western Animation ==
* Kronk does this in one episode of ''[[The Emperor's New School|The Emperors New School]]''. He is faced with a choice of two levers and is instructed to pull the one he ''wouldn't'' pick, due to his ineptitude with levers. He does an
* Done in ''[[Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends]]'', where Bloo is setting up a humiliating surprise party for Mac, and all his efforts play right into Bloo's hands, even when he thinks he's doing the opposite of what Bloo thought he'd do.
* Taken to extremes in the ''[[Danger Mouse]]'' episode "The Statue of Liberty Caper", where Danger Mouse and Baron Greenback both try to outwit each other with regards to the location of a trapdoor in the floor, leading Danger Mouse to say "I guessed that you'd guess I guessed you guessed I'd guessed you'd guessed and out-guessed your guess, I guess".
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