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* ''[[Black Lagoon]]''. it's hard to tell, at times, whether it's an over-the-top parody of the Hollywood action film genre or a straight example with a tendency to occasionally take [[Refuge in Audacity]]. The series seems to swing a bit back and forth depending on the arc in question.
* ''[[Busou Renkin]]'' is also somewhere in between, but often seems closer to a very self-aware [[Shounen]] entry, especially in the second part when the [[Cerebus Syndrome]] sneaks in.
* ''[[DragonballDragon Ball]]''. People forget that it was originally a parody of earlier martial arts manga, and for good reason considering that once it became ''[[Dragonball Z]]'', it got so cliched that [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny|it actually became the basis for every cliché in martial arts manga since.]] (It's easier to come to terms with this fact once you accept both shows as being two entirely unrelated works.)
* ''[[Love Hina]]'' starts mocking the harem genre hard, inserting audience surrogate Keitaro in a female dorm inhabitated by character prototypes from diverse dating games, in an onsen (making every early episode an onsen episode). It goes so far into comedy land that one wonders if the romantic plot will ever resolve or is it going to go for a [[Tenchi Solution]]. But when it wants to get serious it gets serious.
* ''[[Martian Successor Nadesico]]'' is this for [[Humongous Mecha]] shows. For every over-the-top [[Unwanted Harem]] scene or bizarre character or situation, there's also [[Mood Whiplash|real, serious drama]] (often when those over-the-top characters get killed). Even the [[Show Within a Show]] ''[[Gekiganger 3]]'' goes from a silly [[Homage]] of [[Super Robot]] shows to a real problem in the show's universe. It's bad enough that the protagonist explicitly states the [[An Aesop|Aesop]] in the final episode just to be sure everyone's on the same page: [[MST3K Mantra|stop taking anime so goddamn seriously]].
* ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' parodies romance anime but has strong romantic storylines as well.
* ''[[Sailor Moon (Manga)|Sailor Moon]]'' went from being a parody of the [[Magical Girl]] genre to the defining example of the Magical Girl genre. Some of the early episodes are notably more comedic in tone. The later ones? [[Cerebus Syndrome|Not so much.]]
* ''[[Super Dimension Fortress Macross]]'' It's said that this happened here, but that the parody elements didn't last much beyond the first few episodes, then it became a partial deconstruction and partial homage of the genre.
** A [[Real Robot|genre]] that was [[Mobile Suit Gundam|practically brand-new]], in fact.
* ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Anime)|Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' is an arguable example; it could be interpreted as an [[Affectionate Parody]] of the [[Super Robot]] genre just because it's so gosh darn over-the-top, but the trouble is most [[Super Robot]] anime are already so over-the-top it ends up being seen mainly as... a [[Super Robot]] anime.
** The beginning of it feels like [[Affectionate Parody]]. It loses pretty much all semblance of parody after the [[Time Skip]]. The base is broken over which period is the best.
 
 
== Films -- Animation ==
* ''[[Allegro Non Troppo (Animation)|Allegro Non Troppo]]'' seems to be imitating ''[[Fantasia (Disney)|Fantasia]]'' about as much as parodying it.
* ''[[Kung Fu Panda (Animation)|Kung Fu Panda]]''. The action scenes are breathtaking one minute, and downright silly the next.
 
 
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* ''[[Enchanted]]'' has elements of both, thus this trope. While it mocks a lot of the tropes of fairy tales and shows how ridiculous they would be in real life, it also has a happy fairy-tale ending and suggests that life would be better if people did live more by fairy tale ideals of kindness and trust. The only way that a relationship between Giselle and Robert can work is for her to become less of a fairy-tale true-believer (and give up the perfect prince) and him to become more of one (allow himself to love someone again).
* ''[[Feast]]'' , a survival horror film starts as an obvious parody of such films, wherein the characters are simply named after their archetypes. However, despite the occasional sex joke, it creates some truly frightening monsters and horrific death scenes. By the end of the movie, no-one's laughing.
* ''[[Friday the 13th (Filmfilm)|Friday the 13 th]] Part VI: Jason Lives'' was part self-parody, part serious slasher.
* The ''[[Get Smart (Filmfilm)|Get Smart]]'' remake movie was criticised by some reviewers for attempting to both parody spy action movies whilst at the same time attempting to be a straight spy action movie. The original was like this as well, though not quite as blatant about it.
** That happens to most spy movies aimed at children and teenagers. ''Spy Kids'', ''Agent Cody Banks'', ''Stormbreaker'', ''Los Superagentes'' and even ''Cats and Dogs'' suffered from it.
* ''[[The Golden Child]]'' can't seem to decide if it's an [[Affectionate Parody]] of [[The Chosen One]] or a straight use -- and incidentally also stars Daniel Wong as a [[Trickster Mentor]].
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* ''[[Gremlins]]'' The first film didn't seem to know if it was supposed to be a parody of monster films or just a particularly weird monster film itself. While it had the highly goofy scenes with the gremlins themselves, it otherwise portrayed them as a very real threat. Action sequences were a bit hard to pin down. For example, is the violent kitchen fight supposed to be just a simple horror action sequence or a parody of it? The sequel was a more clear cut case of being a spoof.
* ''House of the Wolfman'' can't seem to decide whether if it wants to be a spoof of old [[Monster Mash]] films or a [[Retraux]] horror film.
* ''[[Kick -Ass (Filmfilm)|Kick-Ass]]'' is somewhere between this, [[Affectionate Parody]], [[Deconstructive Parody]], and [[Indecisive Deconstruction]]. Put another way, it starts off as a deconstruction of superhero tropes and [[Decon Recon Switch|plays them straighter as it progresses]].
* ''[[Lake Placid (Film)|Lake Placid]]'' took a lot of heat from critics who didn't realize it was ''supposed'' to be funny. As though a [[Cluster F-Bomb]] from [[Betty White]] could be anything else.
* ''[[Last Action Hero]]'' tried to split the difference between [[Lampshade Hanging]] mockery of action movie cliches and [[Affectionate Parody]] of them, and suffered for it.
* ''[[Lesbian Vampire Killers]]'' At times seems to be parodying the ridiculous oversexualisation of female vampires and vampire clichés, it also has long scenes of gratuitous nudity and a massive phallic sword [[MacGuffin]].
* ''[[Mystery Men]]'' cannot decide whether it is a ruthless [[Deconstruction]] of the [[Superhero]] genre, or an [[Affectionate Parody]]. At first, the "heroes" are made to look like some deluded loons <s>in a world without superpowers</s>... until an old mentor and a new member with actual superpowers appear, and then the bunch of losers finally save the day against all odds.
** Ultimately, it ends up firmly on the side of [[Affectionate Parody]]. ''[[Mystery Men]]'' may [[Lampshade Hanging|hang a few lampshades here and there]], but it's rooted firmly in comic book logic. The only subversion is that the film focuses on superhero [[Fan Boy|Fanboys]] who end up inheriting the real job.
* ''[[Never Say Never Again (Film)|Never Say Never Again]]'' The "unofficial" [[James Bond]] film can't quite seem to decide if it's a harsh satire of the Eon series or if it's a regular James Bond film. Plainly satirical scenes (such as Bond's discussion with M at the beginning) are side by side with normal Bond-style scenes.
* ''[[Pineapple Express]]'' starts out as mushing a stoner movie into an action movie, showing how poorly this type of thing would go in real life. But then Seth Rogen [[Took a Level In Badass|takes an offscreen level in badass]], and is jumping ontop of people and shooting everything.
* ''[[The Princess Bride (Filmfilm)|The Princess Bride]]'' is this trope done more or less to artistic perfection.
** More obviously a parody in the book (if only because of Goldman's "analyses" of "S. Morgenstern's" work. See the whole idea is Goldman is pretending it's someone else's... it's a weird setup). Would you believe it ends with a {{spoiler|[[Bolivian Army Ending]]}}?
* ''[[Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves]]'' is never really sure whether or not it's serious.
* ''[[Scream (Filmfilm)|Scream]]'' was marketed as a [[Deconstruction]] of the [[Slasher Movies|Slasher]] genre, but for all it did to point out as many traits as it could, it just ended up being a straight entry of the genre with [[Death Byby Genre Savviness|genre savvy characters that still fall into all the same traps]].
* ''[[Shoot 'Em Up (Filmfilm)|Shoot Em Up]]'' is arguably at least partly a metahumor-touched [[Affectionate Parody]] of the more over-the-top entries in the genre from which it takes its name (for goodness sake, the eagle-eyed hero's even a carrot-chomper!), and thus includes ridiculously over-the-top gunplay action ''and'' ridiculously over-the-top scenes involving sex and/or nudity on top of that. It's pretty entertaining... ''if'' you noticed the parody elements for what they were, which a ''hell'' of a lot of people (including a good two-thirds of the people this troper went to see the film with) apparently didn't, thus leading quite quickly to the film being dismissed as "another dumb, pointless action movie with unrealistic plot and characters" instead of being recognized as the fourth-wall-flirting action-comedy it really is at heart.
** The fact that Paul Giamatti is in an action movie ''at all'' should have been something of a clue.
** There's a scene were he shoots up an entire room full of bad guys WHILE having sex, and another were he shoots out the umbilical cord of a newborn baby. People took this movie seriously?
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* ''[[This Is Spinal Tap]]'' A lot of people didn't understand that the "[[Rockumentary]]" film was a parody of the burgeoning heavy metal scene of the time. [[Stealth Parody|People thought it was a documentary of a real band]]. Much of this was probably because of how much [[Truth in Television]] it had (Eddie [[Van Halen]] is quoted as not finding it funny because "everything in that movie had happened to me"... Which just goes to show how [[Serious Business|serious Eddie Van Halen takes himself]]).
** Confusing things further, [[De Fictionalisation|Spinal Tap actually toured]]. After opening act [[A Mighty Wind|The Folksmen.]]
* ''[[True Lies (Film)|True Lies]]'': Either a 90's action comedy, or a parody thereof.
* ''[[Van Helsing (Film)|Van Helsing]]'' couldn't decide if it was an [[Affectionate Parody]] of old fashioned horror movies, a straight parody, or a [[Massive Multiplayer Crossover]] of the genre. Although it might be considered "[[Two-Fisted Tales|pulp]]" like ''[[The Mummy Trilogy (Film)|The Mummy Trilogy]]''.
** Interestingly, whether or not a person likes ''Van Helsing'' seems to be determined a great deal by whether they thought it was a parody or not.
 
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== Literature ==
* ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]'' varies between [[Affectionate Parody]], [[Deconstructive Parody]], and just being extremely [[Sliding Scale of Silliness Versus Seriousness|silly]].
* ''I Kissed a Zombie and I Liked It'' parodies YA [[Paranormal Romance]], eg. ''[[Twilight (Literaturenovel)|Twilight]]'' and its ilk. The message it sends is that it's silly to [[Space Whale Aesop|literally give up your life just to be with a guy]] yet Alley would have gladly done so had Doug not {{spoiler|been torn apart by feral zombies he created himself.}}
** {{spoiler|[[Word of God|From the author]] - nah, they would have broken up in about six months. But I didn't have time to write a book that long. }}
* ''[[Snow Crash]]'' is an [[Indecisive Parody]] of [[Cyberpunk]]. In places it feels like a checklist of all the cyberpunk tropes ramped [[Up to Eleven]]: instead of the [[Mega Corp]] being as powerful as governments, corporations literally ''replace'' governments. The [[Hero Protagonist]] is ''named'' Hiro Protagonist, and is both the world's greatest hacker ''and'' the world's greatest [[Katanas Are Just Better|katana-duelist]]. [[Evil Counterpart|Raven]] is the epitome of [[Badass]], [[Invoked Trope|complete with a whole passage explaining in detail why]] he is the world's greatest badass. There are infodumps about various subjects, from toilet paper to Sumerian mythology, thrown in at random. From the [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|mock-epic]] first chapter to the insane climax, it oozes [[Rule of Cool]]. It's considered a landmark work of Cyberpunk, a parody of Cyberpunk, and a herald of [[Post Cyber Punk]].
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== Live Action TV ==
* ''[[Desperate Housewives]]'' When it premiered, it straddled the line between parody & nighttime soap before landing on the side of soap (albeit with a good dose of comedy).
* ''[[Glee (TV)|Glee]]'' seems to be sliding in here. Is it a quirky teen drama with dark comedy elements and [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]? Or is it a dark comedy parodying teen dramas with intentional [[Soundtrack Dissonance]]? Nobody seems to really know. Indeed, one of the main criticisms of the is that it both wants to be a goofy hyper-skewed version of high school, while at the same time wanting to "really speak to the kids" and seriously "be a voice to the voiceless", something that smacks of having one's cake and eating it too.
* ''[[Power Rangers RPM (TV)|Power Rangers RPM]]'' In a definite case of [[Tropes Are Not Bad]], it manages to be one of the most depressing parodies of ''[[Power Rangers]]'' ever. The show constantly varies between lampshading PR tropes ("Sometimes when I morph, a giant fireball appears behind me for no apparent reason..."), and dark storylines (Dr. K's past). Of course, for some, [[Your Mileage May Vary]].
* ''The 7pm Project'' Part of the reason it's struggling in the ratings is because of this. Is the show a news satire, a news parody which looks at amusing stories, or an ordinary news show that happens to be hosted by comedians?
* ''[[She Spies]]'' Nobody seemed to get that it was an action-comedy series bordering on parody, mainly because to the untrained eye, it looked like just another trashy syndicated action show. Which is probably why it got [[Retool|retooled]] into a straight action show for its second (and last) season.
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** [[Alanis Morissette]]'s cover does it much better.
*** But at that point it's the [[Genre Shift]] that makes it funny.
* [[BrokenBroke CYDENCYDE]] seem very indecisive about whether they're a [[Stealth Parody]] or [[Doing It for Thethe Art]].
* Dethklok, the [[Defictionalization|Defictionalized]] [[Death Metal]] band from ''[[Metalocalypse]]'', border on this. While certainly satirical, the virtual band's music is actually quite good, with drums from the [[Heavy Metal (Music)|Metal]] veteran Gene Hoglan from The [[Devin Townsend]] Project.
** [[Your Mileage May Vary]]. There's plenty of metal heads that denounce Dethklok. [http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=170953 Take a look at the metal-archives.com review page for the first Dethalbum.]
*** Noting, of course, that most of the reviews vary from lukewarm to positive, with ratings of around 60-90%, and that of the few bad reviews, one is titled "I hate this and anyone who likes it is a scumbag", which betrays just the ''slightest'' twinge of bias.
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== Radio ==
* Is ''[[The HitchhikersHitchhiker's Guide to Thethe Galaxy (Radioradio series)|The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy]]'' a Science Fiction Comedy or a Parody of Science Fiction ?
 
 
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== Theater ==
* Arguably, ''[[A Midsummer NightsNight's Dream]]''. Particularly the scenes with the Mechanicals, who are performing a self parody of [[Romeo and Juliet]], it's possible those characters are parodies of some of the Lord Chamberlain's Men
* The Broadway version of ''[[Tanz Derder Vampire]]'', retitled ''Dance of the Vampires''. ''Tanz'' is a serious rock musical, albeit not without humor. ''Dance'' tried to make the show into a straight-up musical comedy, since the producer thought this would go over better with an American audience. Unfortunately, due to an incredibly dysfunctional creative process, many of the songs didn't fit in with the new approach, so the show wound up swinging between [[Camp]] and seriousness, leaving no one satisfied. To quote the [http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117919518?refCatId=33 Variety review]: "It's not an outright comedy [...] but as a serious musical -- well, it's pretty damn funny."
* The play ''[[Done to Death]]'' is an [[Affectionate Parody]] of the [[Mystery Fiction]] genre. However it combines drastically different styles and the first scene of Act 1 is extremely different from the rest of the show.
 
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== Web Original ==
* ''[[A Very Potter Musical]]'' and its sequel run on [[Rule of Funny]]--until they get to a particularly serious moment from the books and play it up as heartwrenchingly as possible before settling back into nonsense again.
* Meta example: In ''[[My Little Pony Camaraderie Is Supernatural]]'', an [[The Abridged Series|abridged]] parody of ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', Twilight Sparkle explains that a proper parody has to stay close to its source material and cannot just go off the rails with whatever the author thinks would be funny.
 
 
== Western Animation ==
* The ''[[Total Drama Island (Animation)|Total Drama Island]]'' series started out as an animated parody of reality shows. The focus on shipping and other such plot tumors have essentially made it a totally pre-scripted (read: slightly more scripted than usual) reality show that happens to be animated.
 
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