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A subtrope of [[Informed Attribute]]: A character's skill and abilities are frequently mentioned by the cast, but are nonexistent in practice.
 
Though the motivations for allowing this are similar to the motivations for allowing [[Informed Attribute|Informed Attributes]]s in general, there is much less of an excuse for it. Believably getting it across that, say, someone is compassionate is ''difficult stuff''; it's the mark of a good author to pull that kind of thing off. Skills and abilities are a much simpler deal: Is someone a master locksmith? Have them pick a lock now and then. Are they combat experts? Have them take the fight to their opponents whenever they can and gain the upper hand.
 
What often deters writers from going through with the above plan is the fact that, well, [[Most Writers Are Writers]]. They're writing a character who's supposed to be a musician, but they don't know the particulars of meters or chords. They have a character who is a military expert, but they don't know how long an infantry division can fight until it needs to be resupplied. They have a character who's a genius, but they haven't a clue what kind of problem only a genius would be able to work through, or how. If they actually attempt to show the ability in action they take a very real risk of the portrayal falling completely flat.
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This trope can be [[Played for Laughs]] - a character might find increasingly bizarre and unlikely reasons to not use their alleged abilities in situations where they would prove useful, or that one time where they actually put it to use may be a [[Noodle Incident]] that goes on being mentioned at random, or they may display their skill, but in a manner conspicuously offscreen while the other characters exclaim "Look at them go!". If they finally, at one point, go ahead and prove that they are every bit as capable as their reputation suggests, that's [[Let's Get Dangerous]].
 
See also [[Faux Action Girl]], where "competent fighter" becomes an [['''Informed Ability]]'''. A [[Necessary Weasel]] in [[Video Games]], where often you'll be playing someone supposedly very competent, but how well they actually perform is up to you, and often they'll go through tutorials teaching them the basics of their supposed area of expertise for the player's sake. Compare [[Character Shilling]] or, in particularly bad examples, [[Creator's Pet]].
 
[[No Real Life Examples, Please]].
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** Tohdoh is described as a great general (having beat Knightmare Frames during the invasion without any of his own), only to have disaster strike whenever he is put in a leadership position, the most obvious instance being the season finale where he manages to get nearly his entire army either killed or captured. ''Code Geass'' was quite big on informing of someone's genius outside of Lelouch.
** The Knights Of Round. Most of them are killed by {{spoiler|Suzaku}} with ease, and Luciano Bradley and 4 of his subordinates, together, manage to defeat a sniper in melee, but even the ones who live don't show impressive ability. Anya's greatest skill is using her Knightmare's giant cannon, to blow stuff up. And with a cannon that big, I'd be shocked if she missed. Gino is the only one who shows actual skill, and he's left in the dust by Knight of Seven, {{spoiler|Suzaku Kururugi}} - so much that he's not even a challenge. At least he can go toe to toe with every other pilot in the series... Except, you know, the Black Knights' own ace, Kallen. But that's not unexpected, so that's... a 2 out of 7?
* Punie from ''[[Dai Mahou Touge]]'' is supposed to have nigh-infallible submission techniques to bring down her opponents, but everybody who knows a bit about martial arts should see that it's a bit silly. Most opponents don't even defend against her approaches--andapproaches—and when they fall down they don't even ''try'' to get up anymore, making it all too easy for Punie to perform a lock on them.
* [[Naruto]]:
** The Chunin examinees are said to be the best Genin in the world, but all nine of the rookies fresh out of the Konoha academy, as well as Team Guy, whose members have been ninjas for a little over a year, all make it to the finals while many more experienced ninja fail {{spoiler|although in Kabuto's case, he did it on purpose to gather intelligence on the competitors}}.
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** Sasuke has actually flirted with this trope from time to time, While he's without a doubt [[The Ace|very skilled]], when you actually take a closer look at his Win/Lose ratio Sasuke doesn't put up the best performances. A good majority of Sasuke's victories have been a result of [[Worf Had the Flu]]; {{spoiler|Naruto specifically held back at the end during their battle at the Valley of the End, he ambushed Orochimaru when he was on a sick bed, Itachi was nearly blind, and Danzo specifically held back to deal with Madara.}}
** Hayate Gekko, the Chunin Examiner was heavily implied to be pretty tough judging by the fact that he's got the job he does. However, he gets offed while listening in on two villains, one of which, the Sand Ninja Jonin was his killer.
* In ''[[Hitohira]]'', Nono is supposed to be able to beat up all of the karate club on her own, even though later she is shown to have her hands full fighting only ''one'' person, namely {{spoiler|her female fellow club member Risaki}}--which—which even results in a tie.
* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'':
** The Canis Niger group of [[Punch Clock Villain|bounty hunters]], who were made out to be an incredibly strong group of mages. We see them capture Nodoka (a total noncombatant) and her group of treasure hunters (who we've never seen fight), before Negi shows up and wipes them all out single handedly. The only real thing of note that they pull off successfully is luring Setsuna and Kaede into a trap.
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* In the ''[[Excel Saga (manga)|Excel Saga]]'' manga, Elgala and Hyatt claim to be a master swordsman and marksman respectively. Elgala is seen holding a sword on a cover, once brandishes a stick like an [[Iaijutsu Practitioner]], and claims to have gone on a real-life ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'' adventure for treasure. Hyatt died trying to throw a rock the only time she's attempted "combat".
* Yoshii from ''[[Holyland]]'' is said to know how to use a knife properly, but apart from slashing some random guy once, he gets promptly demolished by Masaki when he tries to do so.
* Character sketches describes Literature Girl from ''[[Daily Lives of High School Boys]]'' as an otherwise sociable, popular girl in Sanada West High... When not [[Wrong Genre Savvy|trying to]] [[Longing for Fictionland|re-enact]] her [[Romance Novel]]'s [[Meet Cute]] by lounging next to Hidenori--whichHidenori—which is nearly the only case when she appears.
* Rando from "[[Yu Yu Hakusho]]" is said to have 99 Techniques, but we only see him use seven.
 
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** Cain did have one impressive achievement: murdering Vesper Fairchilde and framing Bruce Wayne for it (all off-panel). It took the Bat-Family a lot of time and effort to disentangle that mess. True, Cain had [[Lex Luthor]] backing him with the orchestration, but Luthor didn't know Bruce Wayne's secret identity, so Cain still gets credit for the planning.
** To top it off, Cain planted evidence deep enough that the police wouldn't find it but Batman's proteges would that made it look like Vesper was killed because she discovered Bruce is Batman which really threw some doubt on the situation.
** Furthermore, the majority of Cain's appearances in Bat-Comics are as a ''retired'' assassin, so he generally shows up in the story for reasons other than being hired to do a hit on-panel -- usuallypanel—usually because he's the biological father of Batgirl III (Cassandra Cain) and part of her ongoing family drama. So the reason he never 'succeeds' is because he's not actually trying to. Even the Vesper Fairchild job was specifically him coming out of retirement for one last job.
* Due to the [[Loads and Loads of Characters]] the ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]'' have mounted over the decades and the [[Popularity Power]], [[Pandering to the Base]], and [[Running the Asylum]] factors that guide the course of the story, many mutants suffer from poorly expanded or very limited use of their powers. It's more common to see these characters stating what they could do instead of actually doing it. Some don't even get their powers listed until after they're dead and the [[All There in the Manual|Marvel Handbook]] fills in the blanks.
** The most prominent examples are the Omega Level mutants; originally, it simply referred to the [[Superpower Lottery|highest class of observed mutant powers]] such as [[Physical God|Physical Gods]]s and [[Reality Warper|Reality Warpers]]s such as Jean Grey and [[Fantastic Four (Comic Book)|Franklin Richards]] but now refers to any number of mutants with specific skill sets ([[An Ice Person|Iceman]], [[Healing Hands|Elixir]]) who are confirmed to have the genetic potential to transcend either [[External Consistency|the laws of physics]] with their powers ([[Up to Eleven|way more than most mutants]]) or [[Internal Consistency|some ill-defined "limitations" on mutant stamina and power usage]] which themselves are only in effect [[Depending on the Writer]]. While Elixir, Vulcan, Legion, and X-Man have at least shown a little of their magnificent powers, many confirmed Omegas are too self-conscious or inexperienced with their powers and have not come close to achieving the level of power or skill to surpass the feats of other non-Omega mutants, while other "proven" Omegas have gotten their asses kicked by non-Omegas to demonstrate [[An Aesop]] about how skill trumps [[Unskilled but Strong|raw power]]. The only thing the writers can agree on is that "Omega" means "unlimited" in some manner.
** [[Storm]]'s leadership qualifications can fall short in practice. Everyone hails her as a legendary leader, despite her tenures tend to result in the worst setbacks in X-Men history. Before M-Day, more team members died (or appeared to have) than any other's. Lost Rachel? Who cares. Wolvie's MIA. He can take care of himself. Psylocke dead? Twice. Abandon the X-Men's mission to hide in the Outback? Sure why not? Use that time to take lethal action against foes like the Reavers and Marauders? Absolutely. Berating Wolverine when he does exactly the same thing? Priceless.
* Tim Drake's Robin is supposed to be a brilliant leader on par with his predecessor [[Nightwing]] in the ''[[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]]'' comics. Except that his team mostly does what they want, when they want. And they keep quitting because he and Wonder Girl are both assholes. Indeed, Robin's leadership is mostly shown only as him shouting "You, fight him! You, fight her! The rest of you, fight the rest of them! Go!"
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* ''[[Justice League of America]]'': ex-hero-turned-villain Triumph had numerous ones but unlike most examples, it wasn't for a lack of trying; he was quoting [[New Powers as the Plot Demands]] in practically every panel he appeared in. His powers revolved around complete manipulation of the electromagnetic spectrum and among his stated-but-never-seen powers: generating a microwave pulse, perceiving radio/satellite signals and being able to kill [[Superman]] by sucking the solar energy from his body . He also claimed to have other powers the heroes "didn't even have names for" so his list of informed abilities was potentially endless.
* ''Carlie Cooper'' from [[Spider-Man]]. All those amazing qualities of hers are never ''shown'', most likely becuase she hasn't been published long enough.
** Carlie is possibly an odd combination of [[Informed Ability]] and [[Composite Character]]. Those things that are supposed to make her great? [[Nerds Are Sexy]], [[Beautiful All Along]], falling for "Peter, not Spider-Man" and having a [[Dark and Troubled Past]] involving her dad? ''Deb Whitman, Gwen Stacy, and Mary-Jane Watson would like to have a word with you.'' Writers think we're going to like her becuase she's an odd mash-up of former love intrests' good qualities, except all those qualities ''are told not shown'' due to said short publishing time she's had (All those others? At least a decade of publishing each, movie appearances for two of them, and at least one animated series).
** It also doesn't help that she's a poor substitute for [[One More Day|Spider-Man's wife who the publisher supposedly hates.]]
* [[Wolverine]] can sometimes fall into this category in regards to his martial arts training. He's said to be one of the most formidable fighters in the Marvel universe but 90% of his attacks involve simply jumping at his opponents and slashing him/her with his claws: a move anyone with two legs and claws can perform. He often lacks the finesse of other comic martial artists such as [[Captain America (comics)]] or [[Batman]]. It doesn't help that, due to his [[Healing Factor]], he is much more likely to get shot, stabbed, and otherwise mutiliated by common [[Mooks]]. Sure, he gets better almost immediately but it can make him look less skilled than his peers who rarely even get touched by mooks.
** Fridge Brilliance: it is notably easier to hit your opponent if you're willing to let yourself get hit in return, like a stop-hit in fencing. When your superpower is the ability to not die however badly wounded you get, it actually makes sense for you to design your martial arts style around all-out offense and no concern to defense.
** Also, its not really an ''informed'' ability if they actually show it on-panel often enough to establish its not a fluke, and Wolverine regularly gets the occasional issue -- orissue—or at least he used to in the 80s and 90s -- devoted90s—devoted to showing that he is indeed a legitimate ninja master and classically trained martial artist. He just usually doesn't bother using it because with his superpowers cyborg implants, unless he's facing some specific martial arts challenge that can shut down his normal berserker rush its much easier to just rush in and cut his opponent in half.
 
== Fan Fiction ==
* In [[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]], Ronan is supposedly a great musician, but thee songs that we hear him sing are ''terrible.'' ("AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH MY DICK IS LIKE A BIG FAT ROCKET AND UR PUSSYS LIKE A HOLE AND I FUCK U HARD AND IV GOT A HUGE POLE"). {{spoiler|His son Ekaj}} supposedly inherited Ronan and Naruto's abilities, but never uses either, and the only proof of him being powerful is his having won all his fights (which are against [[Mook|Mooks]]s alongside Ronan, but he's better off than most of the canon characters here, who suffered [[Badass Decay]], and the original villains).
 
 
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* Played for laughs in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]]'': "(Brody) has friends in every village from here to the Sudan. He speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear. You'll never see him again. With any luck, he has the Grail already." Just as you're thinking, "That doesn't sound like him at all," we get a [[Gilligan Cut]] to confirm that it was all a bluff. Indy even says that Marcus once got lost in his own museum.
* In ''[[Ever After (film)|Ever After]]'', Danielle uses this to her advantage. She tells her captor that she is a good swordswoman without ever actually fighting with a sword. This is actually a subversion - she's ''bluffing'', and very convincingly too. (We know she's bluffing because she tells him that her father taught her to swordfight; her father died when she was ''eight''. Even if he did teach her, it's not as though she's had much opportunity to keep her skills up in the ten years since.)
* ''[[Not Another Teen Movie]]'' parodies this in that Janey is supposed to be a great artist but is clearly only capable of drawing the same stick figures over and over. It also parodies [[Hollywood Homely]], which is a sub-trope of [[Informed Ability]].
* In ''[[Star Wars]]'':
** Obi-Wan notes, "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise," yet throughout the rest of the series, stormtroopers [[Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy|hardly ever hit what they're aiming at.]]
*** Although throughout the series, stormtroopers remain consistently good at killing anything not a main character or otherwise protected by Plot Armor... which admittedly rules out 90% of everything we see screen time actually devoted to having them shoot at it. And in the prequel trilogy they're even ''better'' marksmen, giving even experienced Jedi Masters a hard time in sufficient #'s.
** General Grievous is said to be a fearsome combatant that has personally killed dozens of Jedi, and such an effective and brutal tactician that he replaces Count Dooku as the greatest threat to the Republic during the Clone Wars, yet in the prequel film, he spends most of his screen time running away and getting his butt kicked. This is somewhat explained in ''[[Star Wars: Clone Wars]]''. Both seasons demonstrate Grievous as a serious threat, even when confronted by multiple Jedi at once. At the end of the second season, however, his chest gets force-crushed, explaining his hunchbacked, hacking wimpiness in the film. His strategic brilliance remains undemonstrated, though most strategy in Star Wars seems to look like [[Zerg Rush|Zerg Rushes]]es anyway.
*** To be fair in ''Revenge Of The Sith'' when he is finally cornered into a battle, [[Not So Harmless|he proves more than a match]], with Obi Wan clearly on the ropes before finally managing to damage his armor and slay him.
* In [[The Great Race]], while in Boracho, TX, Professor Fate & Max hear of a man named Texas Jack who is described as the roughest, toughest man they know of. When Jack shows up, everyone clears the way for him and even the sherrif backs down. But once a bar brawl breaks out, Jack isn't shown to be better at fighting than anyone else.
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* Rocco in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]'' is nicknamed "The Funny Man" by his fellow mobsters. He only tells one joke in the whole movie, and only when ordered by a patronizing Mob boss. He seems to have earned the nickname from mobsters who like to laugh ''at'' him.
* In ''[[Stranger Than Fiction]]'', [[Emma Thompson]]'s character is supposed to be a great writer, yet the few examples of her writing we're given aren't exactly stunning prose.
* ''Save the Last Dance'' would have us believe that the character played by [[Julia Stiles]] is an amazing dancer, who is auditioning for a prestigious dance school. Unfortunately, Stiles has very minimal ballet training, and it shows. Stiles was not at all believable as a high level dancer who had any realistic shot at her goal. It's particularly apparent when she's in a dance class scene, where she should be at least as good as if not better than the other dancers-- whendancers—when in fact, she is visibly struggling to even keep up. (For those not in the loop about ballet, the clearest example of this is her extension, meaning hip flexibility and how high she can raise her leg. The angle of her leg is noticeably lower than those around her, even to the untrained eye.) Obviously, given the type of story this is, the character is successful in her audition... which is entirely unbelievable, given how severely Stiles's limited ballet experience shows in every scene where she does her own dancing.
* In ''[[Reality Bites]]'', we are expected to sympathize with [[Winona Ryder]]'s character because she finds herself unemployable after graduation, despite having been valedictorian in journalism at her college. Things go downhill pretty fast when she loses a page from her valedictorian speech and utterly fails to improvise. After graduation, she flunks a job interview with an editor because she cannot define the word 'irony' to any coherent degree, and later fails an interview with a fast-food manager because she cannot add $0.85 and $0.55 in her head. This might be intentional, due to her scene with Troy in which he easily supplies her with a succinct definition and implies that she's not living up to her level of education.
* [[Played for Laughs]] with brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin of ''[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]'' (as well as the stage adaptation), who was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp. Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken. We never saw him have the chance to not be afraid as such acts were imposed on him, though we did see him "bravely beat a brave retreat" as his bard narrated. Sir Bedevere the Wise also cocks up a battle plan. Sir Galahad the Chaste is remarkably keen to sample the perils of Castle Anthrax. Even 'Sir Not Appearing In This Film' appears in the credits.
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* Anne Bancroft plays a great ballerina past her prime in ''[[The Turning Point]].'' Herbert Ross, the director, wisely keeps Bancroft's "dancing" to a few shots (e.g., brief barre work), but even so, Bancroft fails to either look or move like a dancer, nearing retirement or otherwise.
* In ''[[The Good, the Bad and the Ugly]]'', Tuco nicknames [[Clint Eastwood]]'s [[Man With No Name]] "Blondie", and interrogates other characters as to his whereabouts by asking for a 'tall blond man'. Angel Eyes goes so far as to gush over Blondie's beautiful blond hair, calling him a 'blond-haired angel'. His hair is light brown. This is particularly bizarre because the part was almost certainly written for Eastwood. The reason is a failed [[Woolseyism]] - the original Italian script had Tuco nickname the [[Man With No Name]] "Biondo", which ''technically'' means "blond" but can be used to mean someone with fair colouring. The novelization, more closely based on the Italian script, refers to the character as 'Whitey'.
* Played with in ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'', to the point of several characters lampshading it. Jack Sparrow is touted to be the best pirate ever, yet he is mutinied after being captain for a year, in the first movie is captured twice and saved twice (first by Will, then Elizabeth), gets knocked out from behind twice, and his [[Plan]] almost fails. In the second movie another one fails after Norrington discovers his [[Bait and Switch]] and pulls a switch of his own, setting into place the events of the third movie, where everything finally seems to go his way. The characters themselves can't seem to figure out if he's a bumbling quirk or an unlucky [[Magnificent Bastard]] whose [[Plan|plansplan]]s/[[Indy Ploy|Indy Ploys]]s keep getting [[Spanner in the Works|spanned]]. (One character at least calls him the worst pirate he's ever heard of.)
** Jack himself has a retort to anyone who challenges his claim: "But you have heard of me." Pirates have a short life expectance and being famous draws more attention. Being famous ''and'' alive is impressive.
* It's hard to imagine that [[Fred Astaire]]'s dancing could be an [[Informed Ability]]. But in ''[[Shall We Dance]],'' Astaire's character is supposed to be a successful ''ballet'' dancer. A convincing ballet dancer, Astaire is not.
* In ''[[Finding Forrester]]'', the writing of both Forrester and Jamal is said to be brilliant, but given that it's a movie, not a book, there wasn't really any time to show the audience this. This is obviously because if the screenwriters themselves were capable of creating brilliant work, they wouldn't be writing ''[[Finding Forrester]].''
* In ''[[Jurassic Park|The Lost World]]'' [[Designated Hero|heroine]] Sarah is said to be an expert field biologist. In the film, she can't help but pet a wild stegosaur cub, then snaps pictures from about three feet away like a tourist (she then rants at [[Only Sane Man|Ian]], as if he was a misogynist for coming to save her, when ''five minutes earlier, she started a freakin' stampede!''). Then, after frequent lectures that her expedition had to "leave no trace", she does the logical thing; take an injured baby tyrannosaur to their camp and splint its leg, causing the parents to come and wreck it and kill a party member. Then she walks around in the forest wearing a blood-soaked shirt (after both mentioning that it wasn't drying and that the T. Rex had the greatest sense of smell ever), leading the parents to again wreck an encampment.
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** Similarly, Nicholae Carpathia's amazing oration is illustrated by a speech in which he rattles off a very long list of trivial details about the people in attendance and the agencies of the UN, and at one point reciting the names of all the member countries in alphabetical order. Actually listening to this speech would grow tedious very quickly, and also be a thorough waste of time.
** This trope is part of Slacktivist's [http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/ funny critique] of the novel.
* The ''[[Inheritance Cycle]]'' somehow manages to combine [[Instant Expert]] with [[Informed Ability]]. We are told at various points that Eragon is the Greatest Swordsman Ever. Except that he's not. At all. One particularly dreadful example is when <s>Yoda</s> Oromis tells him he has already mastered the art just pages after he handed Eragon's ass to him in a spar. It's funny when you think if it in terms like this exchange from ''[[Discworld]]'':
{{quote|'''Granny Weatherwax:''' We taught her everything she knows.
'''Nanny Ogg:''' Yeah...you think we ought to have taught her everything we know? }}
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** Even [[Big Bad|Lord Voldemort]] falls victim to this as he becomes more integral to the series. He's the [[Evil Overlord]], [[The Evil Genius]], [[Big Bad|leader of the Death Eaters]], who's so frightening that even the mention of his name sends people into panic. It is true that Voldemort is extremely powerful, to the point where the only person in the series to fight him evenly is Dumbledore. But also throughout the series he's constantly holding the [[Villain Ball]]. He does things like {{spoiler|hiding his Soul Jars in places connected to his past, and frequently using a killing spell against his archenemy even though it '''consistently''' failed to kill him in the past.}}
*** Also, in regard to the {{spoiler|[[Soul Jar]]}}, they are a branch of magic so obscure (and deliberately kept so; among the few magic books that even mention them, they don't go beyond mentioning the name) that he had to go to great lengths to even find out what they are. He probably saw the protections he placed around them as secondary, since odds were small anyone even knew they ''existed''. Dumbledore himself had to go to great lengths to even confirm his theory that Voldemort had created them.
**** Unless Voldemort believed that Dumbledore had never bothered to speak to Professor Slughorn -- whoSlughorn—who he originally got the knowledge of Horcrux creation from in the first place -- atplace—at any time in the past fifty years<ref>Which would be an entirely absurd assumption given that Slughorn was a co-worker of Dumbledore's for decades.</ref> he had no reason for assuming that his opponents were ignorant of the existence of horcruxes. Sure, that knowledge wasn't in ''general'' circulation, but Voldemort's problem ain't what the general public might know, its what Dumbledore might know.
** Dumbledore is reported to hold the position of, essentially, the Head of the Supreme Court of magical Britain. Yet he never uses his authority to resolve any of the occurring cases when innocent people are being accused by the incredibly flawed wizardry judicial system. Though, possible a subversion. In ''[[Literature/Prisonerof Azkaban|Prisonerof Azkaban]]'' it's hinted that the magical supreme court is corrupt. When Dumbledore does use his influence, he's immediately villianized by the other politicians and kicked out of office.
*** However, Dumbledore then proves an adroit enough politician and lawyer that even ''after'' being kicked out of office he can still entirely derail Harry's railroaded underage magic trial, in fifteen minutes flat, with one surprise witness and no prepared script. In light of that performance the mind boggles at what he could have done from the bench... if he'd ever exerted himself.
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** Jacob. He's supposed to represent devilish temptations, like premarital sex, but he was, in the first book, the only well-written character and was a pretty [[Nice Guy]]... until ''New Moon''.
* The eponymous protagonist of ''[[The Jackal Of Nar]]'', Prince Richius Vantran, is a clear example of this trope. From being boldly described as "the best general of the Emperor of Nar" right on the book description, to having pretty much having the author attempt to have all signs pointing that the holder of that somewhat prestigious-sounding title(should be) is a badass, clever, war-savvy, fearsome character.... only to have him actually showcase the maturity of a 13 years-old along with matching leadership capabilities, cringe-worthy emotional stability, not to mention how he also acts dumbly and boorishly , ditching his army in face of his men's doom to go whoring or blowing his disguise in ten different ways when he has to act stealthily....(to those that have read the book: note the adverbs, teehee) In any case, it goes well with the lackluster discovery that what sounded like a warfare-centric novel actually had whole kingdoms going at war and invading each other with armies totaling around fifty dudes...
* Marguerite, in ''[[The Scarlet Pimpernel (novel)|The Scarlet Pimpernel]]''. We are told at length how "brilliant" she is, and she is repeatedly referred to as "the cleverest woman in Europe" by her peers. In practice, however, while she doesn't seem excessively dumb, her intelligence rarely seems more than average. She is consistently taken in by the Pimpernel's ploys, and the audience is almost certain to guess his identity before she does, even though she {{spoiler|lives with him}}. This is probably partly a product of the portrayal of women at the time (even though the author was also female) and more importantly a [[Plot Induced Stupidity|product of the suspense narrative]] -- since—since a lot of the drama would be lost if the narrator guessed things instantly. Regardless of the reasons, though, we are told in the descriptive passages that Marguerite has intellectual skills that she doesn't really demonstrate in the narrative.
* Thrawn in the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] is a good example of ''why'' this happens. He's supposed to be a brilliant tactician, but most of those writing him aren't tactical experts, so they must either leave his abilities vague, show him outwitting the protagonist [[You Are Too Late|in nontactical ways]], or give his opponents an [[Idiot Ball]].
** Also in the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]], the [[General Failure|ruefully incapable]] [[Jedi Academy Trilogy|Admiral Daala]] applies. Immediately after being spoon fed her [[Freudian Excuse|elaborate background story]] as Grand Moff Tarkin's ingenious secret protegé kept down by [[Stay in the Kitchen|sexism]], she arbitrarily loses ''three quarters'' of her fleet in a series of glorious defeats before even really starting her campaign. Sucks to be a villain in a universe where ''everybody'' has [[Contractual Immortality]], it seems. Karen Traviss does a decent job of making her more effective in the ''[[Legacy of the Force]]'' series - although she gets herself ''unanimously elected as the leader of the free galaxy'' - but add her previous incompetence to her doing ''nothing'' for about thirty years and the net effect makes it even worse. Ultimately, the novel [[Death Star]] had [[Internal Retcon|her suffer some minor brain damage in a Rebel attack]] as a means to explain what happened to her vaunted military capability.
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** Or if you were strapped to that chair...
** Or if you weren't a member of a species who have produced the galaxy's very worst ever poetry, and were not therefore immune to the physical effects of terrible poetry in a way the rest of the galaxy is not. In most versions of the scene Ford is in agony while Arthur, the only human present, is merely confused.
* Nearly every major character in Dostoevsky's ''Demons'' is [[Mary Sue|obsessed, to one degree or another,]] with Nikolai Stavrogin. Each one has had some sort of profoundly moving experience with him--allhim—all of which took place, not only before the events of the novel, but even outside the country--andcountry—and he exerts a lasting, though in most cases unintended and unpredictable, influence over each of them. Yet almost nothing we see him do justifies why they hold him in such regard.
* Richard A. Knaak wastes no opportunity to remind everyone that [[Warcraft|Vereesa Windrunner]] is an expert marksman and a powerful hero in her own right... but her grand contributions to the plot of any book she appears in is to lose her bow in chapter 1, get kidnapped, fall in love with Knaak's [[Mary Sue]] pet hero, and getting married to Rhonin. Just like her husband, she goes from being an adventurer to suddenly leading the largest faction of high elves (mages in her husband's case) without any explanation at all.
* Used to be a very common in the romance genre. Most typically, the heroine would be described in the first chapter by the author as intelligent, assertive, strong-willed and independent, but her dialogue, actions, etc. throughout the entire book portray her as a week, hollow shell of a woman with the mind of a tuna sandwich.
** Noted by George Eliot in "[[Silly Novels by Lady Novelists]]," where she says, "In her recorded conversations [the typical [[Mary Sue]]] is [[Patrick Stewart Speech|amazingly eloquent]], and [[Take Our Word for It|in her unrecorded conversations, amazingly witty]]" -- the—the implication being that the writers of these books can do [[Author Filibuster|Author Filibusters]]s but not jokes.
* ''[[The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo]]'': Author Stieg Larsson repeatedly says that the hero Mikael Blomkvist is a wildly talented journalist and exceptional writer; the not-so-easily-impressed Lisbeth Salander is certainly taken with his prose, even before meeting him. This is generally a harmless case through most of the book, as Blomkvist shows real skill with public records and investigative techniques. However, the little bit of his prose we actually see is...not ''bad,'' exactly, but it's hardly very good.
* ''[[Sherlock Holmes]]'': Professor Moriarty is a huge example of this. Sherlock tells Watson (i.e. Doyle tells us) that Moriarty is the greatest criminal mastermind of all time, but we never get to see any masterminding. Furthermore, Holmes tells us about his cat and mouse game with the good Professor, but never shows or even explains either side of it, leaving us having to take his word for the brilliance on both sides. Add to that the fact that the vast majority of Holmes' mysteries were of a nature that no outside source could possibly care, be aware of, or benefit from, it makes Holmes' claims that Moriarty was behind nearly all the crimes he'd ever investigated look odd. He is a pretty paper thin archnemesis.<br /><br />(In many ''adaptations'' Professor Moriarty has a stronger role -- he is a classic [[Breakout Villain]].)
 
(In many ''adaptations'' Professor Moriarty has a stronger role—he is a classic [[Breakout Villain]].)
** The (non-Doyle written) ''Seven Percent Solution'' takes this idea and runs with it, explaining that Moriarty is a perfectly harmless fellow (and Holmes' former math teacher), who Holmes merely perceives as a villain as a side effect of his cocaine addiction.
** Then again, consider [[wikipedia:Adam Worth|Moriarty's inspiration]]. If one assumes that Holmes was indulging in a bit of hyperbole about "most of the crimes [he] ever solved," one may still assume he was a deeply dangerous man behind the really heinous ones.
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* In the ''[[Babysitters Club]]'' books, the reader is informed in every book that Claudia is a fantastic artist. This is something of a [[Justified Trope]], however, since it's very difficult to show that in a literary format.
* In the ''[[Sweet Valley High]]'' series, Elizabeth is said to be a brilliant writer and wants to become a journalist. We are almost never shown examples of her writing, and the few which do somehow make their way into the story are quite average.
* In [[Robert E. Howard]]'s "[[Queen of the Black Coast]]", we are told that Belit and [[Conan the Barbarian]] form a [[Brains and Brawn]] -- but—but all the brain we see from Belit is deciding to go somewhere, and Conan does most of the thinking that is done.
* This is a large premise of ''[[The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]]''. Though the scarecrow has no brain and the tin man has no heart, neither character behaves in a way that reflects this, with the scarecrow actually being quite intelligent and the tin man quite kind. When they finally "receive" these skills later in the book, the remedies are obvious placebos.
* There's one children's book that's called "Three Smart Pals" or something like it. It's about a trio of kids who are said to be very smart. On their way to an outing they see a shopkeeper that they know getting a sign ready. They "help" him make the sign "better" by taking out various phrases. Taking out a few words makes the sign funny, taking out every word but "Fish" makes the three mad because it's apparently implying that they're either blind or stupid. They finally make him make the sign blank, and call it "perfect!" When they come back, the guy hasn't sold anything due to his blank sign. Then they pretty much have him rewrite the sign ''exactly as it was before they got there'', and suddenly it's a huge success. Wouldn't it have just turned out that way if they hadn't stopped to "help"?
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* ''[[Big Brother]]'' US: Rachel is apparently very good at the game; yet she somehow has to rely on a [[Executive Meddling|blatantly contrived twist]] the second she started to fall behind. She also apparently is likable, yet almost all the time, the editors love to show her constantly crying and having to be calmed down by Brendon.
* ''[[Being Human (UK)]]'': George is described several times as a genius and claims to have an IQ in the 150s. We never see him exhibit any high level of intelligence or knowledge. The smartest thing we see him do is teach basic English to ESL students. He mentions his ability to speak a number of languages, but never does so on camera. He admits to not knowing any Hebrew and can't remember all six words of the ''Shema'' prayer.
* All the ADA's who came after Alex Cabot on [[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]] had to endure a bit of time in the [[Replacement Scrappy]] box because of how popular she was with fans, but Kim Greylek's contribution to the show was pretty much nothing but [[Informed Ability]], to the point that she ''introduced herself'' as "The Crusader" and although we never saw it, she was also a highly aggressive and competent lawyer from big important D.C. and taking cases in little ol' Manhattan to further her political aspirations (that we're told she has). Fans of the show didn't tolerate her very well, and she didn't even last a whole season.
 
== Newspaper Comics ==
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** Depends on the strip: sometimes even Linus and Schroeder belittle him, and not in a [[Vitriolic Best Buds]] way. It's also been stated in the strip that Charlie Brown is the manager of the team because he's the only person who really cares about it that much (to the extent that he'd rather manage than eat).
* ''[[Dennis the Menace US]]'', despite being regarded as such by his parents and neighbors, is hardly ever shown misbehaving at all anymore, no doubt due to parents complaining about him being a "bad example" or the fear thereof. But he was a real terror in the early days.
** [[The Simpsons|Bart Simpson]] was created specifically because Matt Groening remembered how disappointed he was with [[Dennis the Menace US]], and wanted to create one whose trouble making wasn't an [[Informed Ability]].
** It got even worse in the Dennis sitcom and cartoon, where the kid wasn't actually allowed to do anything bad. Instead, he was written as an innocent well-meaning lad who always got into trouble by accident. A better title might have been "Dennis the Unlucky." On the other hand, this qualified as [[Adaptation Distillation]] to those kids who found the good-natured Dennis to be a much more likable character than the nasty [[Bratty Half-Pint]] from the early comics.
* In ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'', [[Played for Laughs|this is used for comedic effect]]. Calvin's [[Her Codename Was Mary Sue|imaginary alter ego]] Spaceman Spiff is constantly described as a tremendous pilot, superb marksman and all round brilliant space explorer, but pretty much every story about him begins as his ship is crashing and/or he's captured by aliens. Same with Stupendous Man; after yet another blunder, Hobbes asks Calvin if Stupendous Man ever won any battle. Calvin replies they are all "[[Doomed Moral Victor|moral victories]]."
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== Professional Wrestling ==
* Often happens when the commentators have to shill a [[Creator's Pet]], and moreso when they're simply trying get a new act "over". Jobbers and journeymen are made to seem like extremely talented athletes all the time -- atime—a good example of a [[Justified Trope]] in this instance. It's pretty much the announcers' ''job'' to do this.
* Similarly, wrestlers are often verbally boosted even if they're higher up the rankings. [[Triple H]] is a wrestler who was rather good, but not exactly a technical mastermind (he kicked and punched a lot, and stuck to only some basic submissions or wear-down holds). And the extent of his planning was usually "lure opponent down to ringside, then hit with a sledgehammer". The announcers played him up as not only the best technical wrestler alive, but the "Cerebral Assassin", noted for his brilliant planning.
** Similarly, although maybe a little more methodical is [[Randy Orton]], who although would be a little unnerving to actually have to deal with, his "psychological torture" of his opponents usually extends as far as extending submissions, moving slowly, hitting them, and giving a few evil-looking stares. Has an evil air, but not exactly a super villain.
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== Tabletop Games ==
* Happens often in tabletop [[RPG|RPGs]]s, where a character might have a lot of points in charisma, intelligence, or wisdom, but will still be played like a boorish nincompoop because of player incompetence.
** In ''[[GURPS]]'' it's possible to take the advantage "Common Sense" to avoid this. The description says that if you do something outrageously stupid (like having your charismatic rogue urinate in the King's face) the GM has to mention it and let you decide on a different course of action.
** Some ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' rulebooks will discuss this as well - a ''character'' may have fantastic intelligence, wisdom, or charisma, but the ''player'' will have nothing of the sort. This is inevitable when playing a wizard or cleric, whose intelligence or wisdom is very likely to reach officially ''superhuman'' levels. In that case, it's acceptable to just stick with ability checks in lieu of roleplaying. Or a DM can do what many D&D CRPGs do, nudging a mentally-endowed character appropriately toward correct solutions and insights, or warning them away from stupendous mistakes.
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** In Maniac's case, [[Leeroy Jenkins|the stunts he pulls]] while flying as a wingman are in-character for him.
* In ''[[Viva Pinata]]'', it is mentioned that the Eaglair "has earned respect through its natural nobility, tempered strength, and thumping great talons." Somehow that 'respect' doesn't seem to stop larger Pinatas from walking over it, and it's 'talons' are somewhat nonexistent due to the Eaglair's legs and feet being a pair of ''stumps''.
* In ''[[Monster Rancher]] Battle Card: Episode 2'', you're allowed to lose as many times as you want because you're always wagering a "Critical" card, which Cue has a massive stack of. Every NPC seems quite interested in getting this card for themselves, going so far as betting fifteen other cards or one Monster Card (...and more skill cards) against it. Critical, however, isn't that good a card-- itcard—it takes two GUTS to use, and adds two points to another attack (which can still be dodged or blocked). A lot of attacks have better GUTS-to-damage ratios, so it's often better to replace Critical with... just about any other card.
* A lot of ''[[Pokémon]]'' have an [[Informed Ability]] in their Pokédex entry, which we never actually see, especially not after catching them. While many Ghost-type Pokémon are able to steal souls, some Psychic-types are hyper-intelligent and empathic and able to rip apart time and space. Also, some legendaries are stated to be able to travel through time, wipe people's memories, permanently paralyze, them or even kill them by merely looking in their eyes. In the end, all that's really impressive about them are their stats in battle... if you train them properly.
** Granted, Cyrus in Diamond/Pearl explains legendary Pokémon lose part of their powers when they are trapped in a Poké Ball the first time, and that's why he gives you a Master Ball free of charge and leaves to steal Dialga/Palkia's powers by himself.
** Ghost-type attacks in Generation I were supposed to be super-effective against Psychic-type Pokémon but possibly due to a programming oversight, Ghost-type moves cannot hit Psychics, leaving a major hole in the [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]] formula and resulting in the Psychic type becoming a major [[Game Breaker]] until later generations fixed it. By sheer coincidence, the same is true of the anime's first season; Ash brings a Haunter to fight Sabrina's Kadabra because Ghost hurts Psychic. But the Haunter in question never uses any Ghost attacks, instead using humor to make Kadabra laugh.
* In ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'' your two rivals are the ditzy Bianca who admits she isn't very good and the analytical Cheren who is focused on nothing but becoming the champion. In your fights with them however, while Bianca isn't a particularlly hard fight, she is still harder than Cheren who has an abyssmal set up for his team .<ref>His two Pokémon that differ from hers are both physical based glass cannons. Knowing this he decides that both should use sets that depend on them surviving an attack o and the second should run a set with no physical moves. While he tries to give one a set up so he will always critical, he doesn't actually complete it and deletes the move needed to pull it off by the time he has put the other pieces toggether</ref>.
* Averted in ''[[Boktai]]''. Master Otenko is the representation of The Sun, and a guardian of the Solar System... but he makes it clear to Django in the first game that he can't fight. Indeed, Otenko does get his leafy stem handed to him on a regular basis.
* In ''[[Soul Series|Soul Calibur IV]]'', Angol Fear, the "King of Terror" is said to weigh 1.44 tons, and be 14800 years old. Given that, you would think that she would be super strong, unjugglable, and more of a threat than all of the fighters in the game considering the knowledge she should have amassed. The character is Seong Mina. Not Shin Seong Mina or Seong Mina with a speed boost or a health boost or extra combos or power armor or juggle resistance or any discernible advantage whatsoever. It's just Seong Mina. Actually a little worse, because her weapon is slightly shorter than Seong Mina's, meaning that in a scant few cases, she doesn't have the range that Mina has.
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* João Franco playing the lute in ''[[Uncharted Waters]]: New Horizons''. Although his [[Leitmotif]] is called "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZfyXEXaLuI Caprice for Lute]".
* ''[[Touhou]]'' characters possess a vast array of magical abilities, ranging from control of insects to being an [[Born Lucky|intense luck charm]] to [[Blow You Away|manipulation of wind]] to [[Reality Warper|absolute mastery of borders]], however as the genre of the games is [[Bullet Hell]] those abilities never appear in gameplay, which a few exceptions (like Utsuho throwing miniature suns at the player). This is given an in-story explanation with the implementation of the spell card rules, both providing the weaker denizens of Gensokyo a reasonable chance of success and preventing the stronger denizens from simply vaporising their opponents.
* In ''[[Blaz Blue]]'', Iron Tager is supposedly around 550 &nbsp;kg, as ''Teach me, Ms. Litchi!'' tells us, but you wouldn't know that from the way pretty much everyone else lighter than him can still [[Punched Across the Room|toss him around]]. Admittedly, it would be unbalanced to make him immovable to others' attacks.
* Dunkoro in ''[[Guild Wars]]'' is supposed to be a good planner, but doesn't actually get to show this much in game. (Partly because a lot of the story consists of reacting to things, though when Dunkoro does give advice, it is often quite basic.)
* For those unfamiliar with the books, a number of [[NPC|NPCs]]s from ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' can be seen like this. One of the most jarring examples is Samwise Gamgee: The Guardian class (a tank class who is described as protectors of those in need) is partly based on him and how protective he was of Frodo in the books, and higher-level players are sent to Sam as part of their training. Imagine the surprise when learning that the "guardian of unmatched skill" is a nervous hobbit who says things like "We are in quite a pickle, aren't we, Samwise old boy?" It's even more noticeable if you're playing as a hobbit yourself, who by then should have a good number of heroic deeds behind them.
* To quote an LP of the ''[[Chzo Mythos]]'': "In case you haven't noticed, John is even worse at psychiatry than Trilby is at stealing. {{spoiler|There is not a single instance in the entire series of a protagonist actually demonstrating a skill we're supposed to believe they have.}}" Note that this is referring to the ''[[Chzo Mythos]]'' series, which doesn't include ''Trilby: [[The Art of Theft]]''.
* In ''[[Starcraft II]]'', General Warfield is supposed to be this badass general, and yet his entire career over the course of the game involves him screwing up the attack on Char and handing over command to Raynor, who lampshades it prior to touchdown.
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** {{spoiler|He does turn out to be the [[Big Bad]] though.}}
* [[Blood Knight|Garrosh Hellscream]] from ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' is constantly regarded as being a "[[Blatant Lies|Tactical Genius]]", even from Major NPCs like Cairne Bloodhoof and Thrall, and even from the [[Word of God|Blizzard Team themselves]], but anyone who actually did the quests and events that involves him would know right off the bat that he is ''lightyears'' from being remotely regarded as this:
** ''The Burning Crusade'' introduces us to Garrosh, who at the time was sooo [[Wangst|wangstywangst]]y about his father's legacy and the deteriorating health of the Greatmother, he never lifted a finger to help with the numerous issues plaguing his clan the Mag'har. You, the player character, end up covering his ass so much that upon the climax of the storyline, he was even willing to ''turn over leadership of the entire Mag'har clan to you so he can go die in a corner because he realized how much of a loser he was in comparison to you''.
** Fast forward one expansion, now we are in ''Wrath of the Lich King'' and Garrosh does a complete 180 turn of his personality, instead of the mopey crybaby, we're now treated to his trademark [[Jerkass]] persona. And during the early questlines of one of the first Northrend zones Horde players will enter, players witness firsthand that Garrosh is as impatient and reckless as his father (One of the reason he was so depressed in the previous expansion by the way), and was more interested in eliminating the Alliance forces on the opposite side of the zone than dealing with the numerous issues just outside his fortress. Later, when scout requested reinforcements to take out a Necromancer and his small army, [[What an Idiot!|Garrosh scoffs and sends ''only'' the player]], who would have been promptly captured and zombified had resident Badass Saurfang not seen the stupidity himself and personally came to the rescue. Garrosh also had some followers in later zones who were as stupid and jerkass as he is, one of them even got herself killed by the player because of her own zeal and stupidity.
*** The player character is actually brought on to help her sister kill her in a fight to the death, because Gorgonna (the sister) knew all of Conquest Hold was about one more tyrannical decision from Krenna (the follower) before riots broke out.
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*** Even better, when you talk to one of the other survivors, apparently Garrosh, in an attempt to save face, claims ''[[Blatant Lies|the alliance attacked them unprovoked.]]''
** A good example would also be Sylvanas Windrunner. Seeing how she is implied to be super threatening and intelligent despite her tendency of keeping potential traitors close to her AND having the "super brilliant" strategy of bombing everything with plague. She also gets her rotting ass handed to her on several occasions by other major characters - often having to resort in her underhanded tactics in the first place. She also gets killed by a single bullet through the chest by one of the said "potential traitors" just after ransoming another NPC.
** The 7th Legion, basically Stormwind's ultimate, elite soldiers. When fighting them, Undercity basically says that they're in serious trouble, that every major battle the Alliance has ever fought has had the 7th Legion behind the scenes secretly winning it for them, they even wiped out two Forsaken camps full of elites. When you fight them, the majority of them are level 13 and 14 non-elites, and their "terrifying" leader, Pietro Zaren is a level 15 non-elite who is only slightly harder to kill than the rest of them. While the 7th Legion was in Northrend, and ''were'' tough there, none of their stronger soldiers are present in Gilneas at all. They're also [[Too Dumb to Live]], as they wiped out two entire Forsaken outposts, except for the leader of one of them. Considering the type of work they were doing, leaving a witness who could tell what happened basically negates your work--aswork—as the witness tells the player what happened and sends the player to wipe them ''all'' out.
** We're informed, in the tie-in novel ''[[The Shattering Prelude to Cataclysm]]'', that Aggra is an exemplary shaman in her own right. As far as she's actually written, however? She's Thrall's [[Shallow Love Interest]] {{spoiler|and [[Babies Ever After|eventual]] [[Birth-Death Juxtaposition|babymama]]}}, but little else.
* In ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'', [[The Gambler|Luxord]] of Organization XIII is stated to have time-based powers, which pretty much extends to putting a "Time Limit" in his boss battle that really just ends up being "Hit Luxord a lot" and fights more with his [[Death Dealer|cards]].
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* Misho, a Solar [[Exalted]] from ''[[Keychain of Creation]]'' supposedly has high awareness. The only way you'd know this is by the other characters reminding him he's [[Lampshade Hanging|supposed to have high awareness]] when [[Failed a Spot Check|he misses important (and sometimes obvious) details]].
* In ''[[Sonichu]]'', Chris has given descriptions to each of the female characters' personalities, ranging from "smart and quick-wit" to "generic high-school girl personality." Of course, we never actually see any of this, since every female character is either interchangeable or useless.
* In ''[[Homestuck]]'', the Kids share a skill with their Guardian, but not as well: John is always bested in prank wars by Dad, Rose falls short of Mom's insane passive-aggression, and Dave is just not as cool, fast, or ironic as Bro. They still [[Informed Ability|try to build up these abilities]] as part of their core personalities.
** Subverted when the Kids meet; Rose acknowledges that she "cannot hope to defeat [John] in a prank-off. He is simply the best there is." Rose also acknowledges how amazingly cool Dave is when he shows off his audio gear and some of his mixes.
* Gemel from ''[[Tony TH]]'' is supposed to be very powerful, but always gets [[Curb Stomp Battle|Curb-Stomped]] whenever he appears. This is actually justified though, for two reasons: A) while Gemel has a lot of power, [[Glass Cannon|he really can't take a hit]], and B) he always fights alone against groups of good guys. The end result is that the heroes spend the entire battle blindsiding him whenever he tries to make an attack, making it less of a battle and more of a game of tennis with Gemel as the ball. During the few times he fights one-on-one or as part of a group, he actually lives up to his reputation.
* In ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', Susan's magical powers, which are seen exactly once and then aren't visible for many arcs. Then Susan explains that Nanase's powers are of a different order than hers ("Awakened" vs. "Dreaming") without going into detail--untildetail—until ''much'' later, when Susan explained her magical abilities [[Subverted Trope|with a big]] [[Flash Back]]. {{spoiler|And she is properly "Awakened."}}
 
 
== Web Original ==
* In ''[[Tales of MU]]'', Amaranth seems to border on having [[Informed Flaw|Informed Flaws]]s. [[Word of God]] is that if the author had wanted to write a [[Mary Sue]], it would have been Amaranth without the flaws. The problem is that while Amaranth's perspective on some matters is clearly skewed, her actual effect on the storyline is always extremely positive.
** Indeed, even her informed flaws are that she's not ''quite'' perfect. She's not ''quite'' as genius-level smart as she thinks she is, she's not ''quite'' perfectly adjusted, and she's not ''quite'' as sensitive and empathetic as someone perfect would be. Saying Amaranth has flaws is like saying that an M&M is less chocolatey than a Hershey's Kiss.
* In ''[[Lonelygirl15]]'', the main characters have a strange tendency to panic whenever they see [[The Dragon|Lucy]] show up. As a sunglasses-wearing Order operative, there ''is'' reason to consider her dangerous by default, but she is treated as if she were the single deadliest person that could be thrown at them. She gets nastily proactive toward the end of the series, but before that point, her greatest known feat was physically restraining a smallish teenage girl.
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** Dan Brent, of ''V3'', is a decent example of this, as his every attempt to score kills fell horribly flat.
* In ''[[Red vs. Blue]] Reconstruction'', Washington concluded that {{spoiler|Church was the Alpha partially based on the fact that he always agreed with [[The Spock|Delta]] (read: the logic aspect of the AI in question). The singular time Delta made a conclusion in Church's presence that he ever commented on.}}
** That sounds less like an [[Informed Ability]] and more like Jumping Wildly To Conclusions. Wouldn't be the first time it's happened in the series.
* Laura, as in "[[Legolas By Laura|legolas by]]", has apparently "got a power and she can distoy us all the bad guys". She never actually uses this power, even when she's imprisoned and tortured by the orcs, or during the big important final battle, and what the power is supposed to be or do is never actually described.
* [[Played for Laughs]] with [[Dr. Tran]]. The audience is constantly told about how he's a badass secret agent who [[Badass|has a PhD in kicking your ass]] and once killed his mother with a broken lawn chair. In reality, he's just a very confused Chinese boy who's constantly harassed by the narrator.
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