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*** All of which [[Older Than They Think|predate the Internet]].
* [http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/ Bill 156] (NSFW). 4chan, especially /a/, has been ''fuming'' over the ruling, which is understandable, considering the side effects it will cause. (For one, with all suggestive content being removed from shows aimed at children, which is [[Values Dissonance|surprisingly]] [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?|a lot]], several animation studios will be bankrupted from having to relocate outside Tokyo, causing unemployment rates to skyrocket, harming the Japanese economy due to the impact on exporting anime and manga, fueling hostilities between traditionalist and otaku cultures in Japan, leading to civil unrest, and... well maybe it won't be ''that'' bad... or will it?).
** Looking at [http://www.animenewsnetwork.
* In general, Anime and Manga and its position when it comes to [[Animation Age Ghetto]] can rile up [[Flame War
** Likewise, go to a non-Anime related forum and simply start a discussion about Anime and Manga, or any given show, and you will get at least one person that will bash you and your taste in media, and that [[And That's Terrible|you are watching stuff for kids]] or nothing but hentai and naughty tentacles. And yes, despite all the cries for [[Animation Age Ghetto]] to stop, this even happens on [[TV Tropes]].
** Also, just causally mention that people in Japan are ''not'' as into Anime/Manga as one would think or that only "Weeaboos" think people in Japan like Anime. If you're lucky, you'll manage to survive with only a few minor burns from the ensuing flames.
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** In regards to ''[[The Movie|Conqueror of Shamballa]]'', ask whether the "real world" people are or not alternate versions of Greed or Archer. Flames ensue.
** Want to send just about any anime forum (and some non-anime ones) into apocalyptic rage? Mention that you don't like FMA ''at all''. Bonus points if you compare it to one of [[Naruto|The]] [[Bleach|Big]] [[One Piece|Three]] while doing so.
* Fans of [[Bowdlerise
** Even [[Woolseyism]] style translations get targeted. Argue the merits of changing ''Pokémon'' names for other markets and get people who claim the only real names are the Japanese ones.
* The rift between the people who think ''[[Naruto]] Shippuden'' is good and the people who think it is not. Seriously, sparks start flying whenever someone ''mentions'' the series.
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** For even greater lulz, bring up how Women are treated on Naruto ''anywhere'', flames will burn - even though most people are in agreement that being a woman in Naruto SUCKS. But there's always going to be the one person that agrees with the treatment of them - they'll send Orochimaru and Madara after them.
*** Go up to the "fandom feminists" and even ''question'' their constant bashing of the female characters ("Sakura is the worst character ever, even worse than Madara and Orochimaru!" "Hinata is a fat and weak bitch who doesn't deserve Naruto!" "All the women in Naruto are (re: useless, whores, bitches, sluts) and should either die or not exist!" "KISHIMOTO HATES WOMEN!") That will be the death of you. Double if you're a female yourself or a feminist embarrassed by their absolute screeching hate of any Naruto female.
** Asking "Why is Naruto such a crap Anime" on an anime forum gets three different responses; non-fans saying it is, fans saying it isn't and a third group that actually look at the question and point out its foibles & short comings, and try to answer it logically and factually. The first and second group will fight like hell, and the third inevitably joins in, and can take either side. Posting in the form of a question is best as it is open-ended; anyone can add any reason at all to like or dislike it. Also, the resulting [[Flame War
*** Bonus points if you dare to say ''[[One Piece]]'' is a better than ''[[Naruto]]''.
** What, did we forget Shikamaru vs. Hidan? Shikamaru is either a super genius who should be the real protagonist, or a [[Jerkass Stu]] as well as a walking [[Broken Aesop]] ("[[Revenge]] is bad? What's that?"). Hidan is either an [[Faux Affably Evil]] [[Laughably Evil|and hilarious bastard]] who provides great interactions with his partner Kakuzu, or a super [[Complete Monster]] whom you aren't even allowed to appreciate as a character. Put fangirls of these two in the same breathing space and get ready for spectacular [[Internet Backdraft]].
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* Do ''not'' mention [[Fushigi Yuugi|Nuriko's sexuality]], especially in terms of his dealings with Miaka. Or the subject of whether or not Miaka counts as a [[Canon Sue]]. The resulting wank will give you a headache.
** Even better/worse: Mention Nakago. Then RUN AWAY.
* ''[[Hellsing]]'' TV series. Just say those 3 words on a ''Hellsing'' forum, and wackiness ensues. Try saying that it's better than the [[OVA
** Oh, and say that [[Bifauxnen|Integra]] is a nice guy, but a bit too feminine for a man. It always divides fans between humorous and irate. Mostly irate.
** Also, just casually mention [[Ship-to-Ship Combat|Alucard/Integra VS Seras/Integra VS Alucard/Seras]] and see what happens. On second thought, don't.
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*** Evidence on this can still be found on [[LiveJournal]] in the Hetalia community, since this happened at the start of April 2009.
** Try asking about the countries personified as females in a discussion on gender roles. Watch both sides tear each other apart in arguing whether Hetalia is sexist or not to its females, or even if the countries they represent have as much significance as "First World" nations like America. [[It Got Worse|It gets worse]]. [[Take a Third Option|Taking a third option]] might also not be very wise if the particular discussion is already heated.
*** Even better if you discuss the girls in regards to [[Shipping Wars]]. Is it valid to have them paired up, or would it kill their personalities? Do they become insta [[Relationship Sue
** Mention the old version of the main storyline's third chapter, (''G-R Nonaggression Pact?''). See Russian and German fans tear each other down over the ''original'' one [[Old Shame|which Himaruya deleted and remade]] because of the [[Unfortunate Implications]].
** ''Botticelli's Erotic Painting'': Post the translated strips to this old deleted story or ask people their opinions on its content. The fans will tear each other down over whether it was a satire on the effect of banning erotica, if the author was using it as an excuse to showcase a [[Shotacon]] fantasy, or if it's okay to be offended or not in general. France and Spain's behavior alone in the strip is also a very divisive matter among fans as to whether it should still be counted as "canon" or not.
** Now that the dub cast has been released, ask about [[Vic Mignogna]] being cast as [[Bi the Way|Greece.]] Have fun by watching [[Yaoi Fangirl
*** On that note, Vic in general can be a rather... controversial topic. Either he's an absolutely awesome voice actor who should be revered and is always right even when he's not, or he is an absolutely horrible gayhater of a monster who should die and NEVER touch the [[Yaoi Fangirl
*** Once the dub voice of England was released, the [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|outrage over the dub voices grew]], along with rage against liberties in the script and FUNimation calling him "Britain" (by request of the Japanese publisher), which is technically correct, but fandom has gotten used to calling him England. Asking about his voice or the name change will only generate more of a [[Flame War|flamewar]].
*** The dub itself has become a [[Rated "M" for Money|controversial subject]] of discussion due to its massive script rewrites which FUNimation claimed were necessary and [[Crosses the Line Twice|"purposely offensive"]] to reach a wider audience. The results of bringing up this subject are a lot more loaded than any [[Shipping]] debate; The Hetalia fans that love the dub, the fans that hate the dub, and even the haters of Hetalia itself will tear each other to shreds.
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** Don't ask about ethnicity in ''Bleach'', especially in the case of Yoruichi. What's especially disturbing about this is the number of people who don't just disagree, but are violently opposed, '''offended''' in fact, at the suggestion [[Ambiguously Brown|that Yoruichi may be black.]] [[Unfortunate Implications|Wonder what their problem is?]]
* ''[[Corrector Yui]]''. The manga/anime had so many divided opinions that if you ever bring such name in certain anime forums, there'll be the ones that liked both seasons, ones that only liked one of them, and the ones that despise Corrector Yui like it's a 4-Kids dub, but made in Japan. To have a slight idea, even in Japan such backdraft happens, and some manage to call Yui an "indecent harlot", and say that was Kia Asamiya's second biggest error (some of them claim that his biggest error was to convert [[Batman]] into a manga, without the things that would make ''normal'' Japanese people think he was a villain).
* Just try to go into any ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' or ''[[My-HiME]]'' fan board and say you don't like Natsuki/Shizuru and/or Konoka/Setsuna pairings, regardless of your overall sexual views. Or that you like Yuiichi Tate and Shiho Munakata. Or that you like the Hime manga, in which, among other changes, Natsuki is pursuing Yuuichi instead of a [[Celibate Hero]] who may return Shizuru's feelings for her. Or any of the ''Negima'' anime adaptations (other than the Ala Alba/Another World [[OVA
** Heaven help you if you bring up ''Negima'''s [[Live Action Adaptation]]...
* How do you properly pronounce [[Dragon Ball|Saiyan]] again? This question can be used to unlock the gates of Hell.
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* Go find any ''[[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]]'' fans that you can, and casually bring up whether 8059 is better than 5927 or not.
** Do not ever mention any pairing on any ''Reborn!'' related forum, if you want to stay alive.
* Bang Zoom! Enterntainment CEO Eric P. Sherman started a massive [[Internet Backdraft]] when he [http://www.animenewsnetwork.
** Bandai did [http://www.animenewsnetwork.
* Want to start a [[Flame War]] amongst the ''[[Soul Eater]]'' fans? Just mention you don't like/hate [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Death The Kid]].
** [[Viewer Gender Confusion|"Is Chrona]] [[Ambiguous Gender|a boy or girl?"]] And...cue the ensuing flame war.
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