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* Head over to [[Cartoon Brew (Blog)|Cartoon Brew]] and try to post a nice, mature, rational argument that motion capture technology is a valid form of animation when used well. We'll be behind you with the marshmallows...
** Actually, just post anything (in a polite or not combative tone) about the industry that Amid personally disagrees with. Before you even get flamed, you'll more than likely just be deleted, IP banned and deactivated from the blog, and then mysteriously gain your posting privileges back 2 weeks later.
** Heck, motion capture is a picnic compared to what happens if you even casually mention anything remotely connected to the question of whether cartoons should have scripts or storyboards, and whether non-artists should write for animation. From there it quickly devolves into a battle over [[Ren and Stimpy|John Kricfalusi]], who's a very vocal advocate of storyboards, and who attracts very rabid [[Fan Boy|fanboys]] and an avid [[Hatedom]], the latter resulting from some of his [[Small Name, Big Ego]] qualities.
* Add ''[[Family Guy (Animation)|Family Guy]]'' to this. ''Family Guy'' has become a good source of heated debate there for a while, only to come to a head in this [http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/family-guy-goes-disney.html# commentsrecent blog post], with 105 replies and counting. Jerry Beck himself is a self-admitted hater of the show. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oekDrOQGnYY This person] believes that ''[[Family Guy]]'' should be canceled off the air for [[Dead Baby Comedy|repeating pop-culture reference gags]], and he even bashes Seth for [[Only in It For The Money|making cartoons just for cash over entertainment]].
** Say you like "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven". They'll treat you the same way as Brian.
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** Also, [[Broken Base|Bender's Game]]
** Season 6 is getting the same reactions. Even with the one of the episodes having a heartwarming ending, it STILL doesn't stop them.
** And whatever you do, don't even ''think'' about touching the [[Official Couple|Leela/Fry Ship]]. ''Especially'' [[Broken Base|around either]] the [[Fan Fiction]] writers [[Fanon|who want to see an entire show]] [[They Do|based on them being a married couple]] with [[Human Mom Nonhuman Dad|sight gag]] [[Babies Ever After|offspring]] or the [[Fan Dumb|"long-time"]] [[No True Scotsman|"real" fans]] who insist the show ''[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|must be like]]'' [[The Simpsons]] ''[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|and remain a static cartoon with no alterations in character setups]]'' '''''[[Ruined FOREVER|whatsoever]]'''''.
* ''[[Kim Possible]]'': Is the title character a strong female heroine with who shows [[Character Development|realistic character flaws over the course of the series]]? Or the victim of [[Chickification]] in favor of her [[This Loser Is You]] sidekick [[Took a Level In Badass|taking a level in badass]]? There are enough people who feel strongly about this that flame wars spring up around the topic quite often. And let's not even start with [[Ship to Ship Combat|Kim/Ron versus Kigo versus any other possible KP ship]].
** Another option is start a war between Fight For Five and Fight Against Five (people who want/don't want a 5th season for the show).
** Kim's rival [[Alpha Bitch|Bonnie]]: Does her [[Freudian Excuse|crappy home life]] give her a good reason to belittle Kim and Ron at school? Some say yes and view Bonnie as a sympathetic character (and even an [[Anti -Hero]]), others say no, claiming that a [[Freudian Excuse]] for the [[Alpha Bitch]] is the most [[Warped Aesop]] in children's programming. Arguments between these groups are almost as fierce as the ship wars. Oh, and speaking of ship wars, Kim/Bonnie and Ron/Bonnie tend to be fairly popular couples amongst the fanbase, so rivalries with Kim/Ron and Kigo come into play quite often. Kim/Bonnie and RonBon are so popular in fact that fanfiction of canon pairing [[Pair the Spares|Junior/Bonnie]] is practically nonexistent.
* Simply say that ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', ''[[The Boondocks]]'', ''[[Teen Titans (Animation)|Teen Titans]]'', or ''[[Code Lyoko]]'' are anime. If you want to commit suicide in a ''really'' painful way, say ''[[Winx Club]]'' is an anime, or even compare it to ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.
** Which is always hilarious when one takes into account that Japanese refer to all hand-drawn or computer animation as "anime" (here's a hint, [[Captain Obvious|the term is a shortened form of the term animation]]), so if shown there all those shows (and every other western animation) will be called anime anyway by a Japanese viewer.
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** This has since died down, and the arguments now are mainly over whether [[Base Breaker|Ezekiel]] is returning/deserves to return.
*** And now after ''that's'' cooled down, the [[Ship to Ship Combat|Duncan/Gwen vs. Duncan/Courtney shippers]] have started it up ''again''.
** Say you like [[CreatorsCreator's Pet|Owen]] or [[The Scrappy|Sierra]] and that the former doesn't really get too much screentime. Go ahead, do it.
** Alternatively, say that you don't like [[Breakout Character|Cody]] or that he didn't deserve to win ''World Tour''.
* Even before it began, the ''[[Young Justice (Animation)|Young Justice]]'' cartoon was already undergoing this. It's not an adaptation of the [[Young Justice (Comic Book)|comic of the same name]], but it has led to people either trying to defend how appropriate the title is despite it not being an adaptation or criticizing using the title because it isn't one. The presence of Dick Grayson and Wally West instead of Tim Drake and Bart Allen has also invoked this.
** Their version of [[The Joker]]. Either you thought it was an interesting interpretation, or he was the worst thing ever. Be prepared for comparisons to the [[Batman the Animated Series|Mark Hamill]], [[Batman Under the Red Hood|John Dimaggio]], and [[The Dark Knight Trilogy|Heath Ledger]] versions of the character..
** The second season has just begun, and fans are already arguing about the [[Time Skip]]. You either think it's unnecessary and [[What Happened to The Mouse?|ignores several established characters]] [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|and plotlines]], or that it paves the way for new characters to shine. And don't even get fans started on [[Ship to Ship Combat|the fact that Superboy and Miss Martian have broken up and the latter is now with Lagoon Boy]].
* [[Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends]]: Regardless of which forum you go to, it is usually best not to bring up with the fans any of the following: liking Goofball, promoting Mac x Frankie, general dislike against Frankie, Mac, Wilt, or any fan favorite character, saying you like Cheese, and thinking the post season 3 episodes weren't as good as the earlier ones. You have been warned.
** If I may add, it's probably best not to bring up pairings such as Herriman x Frankie or Wilt x Frankie. The debates can get... heated to say the least.
* The [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] episodes penned by Dave Polsky, "Feeling Pinkie Keen" and "Over a Barrel", have sparked a more than a few arguments, detractors claiming that the former is a direct attack against skepticism, and that the latter is a trivialization (or, in the most extreme arguments, ''glorification'') of the oppression towards Native Americans in the early '90s.
** "Feeling Pinkie Keen" is ''so'' prone to this that a [[Flame War|"Debate"]] on its message occured in a forum thread ''that was criticizing a completely separate episode''.
** The simple mention of this show can incite this from [[Hype Aversion|those trying to avoid it]].