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*** [[Manimal]]? A [[Manimal]]-motif ranger would be... interesting, to say the least.
** OP: I didn't know that about Demeter, and I keep fogetting the Peacock as Hera (despite loving the use of that motif). But it works both ways. A male [[Mahou Sentai Magiranger|mermaid ranger]] (yes it would still be a mer''maid'') is a bit odd as well.
*** [[
**** Well it wouldn't be a milestone celebration without something strange happening now would it?
** Because their transformation is based on the [[Captain Obvious|original rangers' motif]]. It wouldn't [[Choujuu Sentai Liveman|Black Bison]] without a [[Exactly What It Says
* Exactly why didn't the previous sentai teams use their mecha in the Legend War (instead of giving up their powers)?
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*** Also, the most of the Magirangers turn into their giant robots, so there's no reason the Magirangers couldn't have turn into MagiKing of something at the battle.
* How does the Gokaiger's [[Early
** These Vs. movies aren't exactly Canon in the first place. But it may have something to do with the [[Mirai Sentai Timeranger|Timeranger]] powers.
*** Confirmed. {{spoiler|It is in the Timeranger tribute, which would explain why the Gokaigers had Ranger Keys.}}
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*** Tell that to the Zyurangers and their somehow back from the dead Dragonranger.
*** The difference is that Burai was killed late in the series, Magis was killed before the beginning of Goseiger.
*** I think it's [[Merchandise
*** Then there's the simple fact that he's called ''Gosei'' Knight, as opposed to something like [[Something Person|Knightman]]. It may seem shallow, but it clearly shows that the writers intended for him to be part of the Goseigers, whereas the writers of Kakurangers and Carrangers may not have felt the same way about their characters.
*** Signalman is in the battle, while Ninjaman is mostly a mech that was taken down by the Zangyack fleet.
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** ...Really? That's what bugs you? Do YOU want to wait 5 more years?
*** It just seems like a waste and there is no way they can top this for the 40th anniversary.
**** Cannot top this? That's what they said and we thought about all the [[Shout
** Because not only is it [[Super Sentai]]'s 35th Anniversary it's Toei's 60th. This is also why they are doing a big [[Kamen Rider]] Anniversary movie so soon after Decade.
** Besides since they did the work for Gokaiger they now have brand new suits of the past 35 years of Sentai...let that sink in for the 40th they have 35 years of suits now in mint condition
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** Maybe even more, since I assume that each suit actor is a different size.... thats five if I'm correct. Or maybe the women are the same size, and the men share a size, who knows.
** There is definitely no way that the 40th anniversary super sentai would able to top or even equal Gokaiger. They did any that is almost everything possible for a anniversary season. How do you expect the 40th anniversary and any other future anniversary to top that or even come close? They might as well quit no before the other anniversaries get bashed-down for not even coming close to Gokaiger.
*** They could if they got a [[Sixth Ranger]] [[
** Why are we so set on waiting for the 40th anniversary? If we were really waiting for a milestone anniversary, shouldn't we be talking about the 50th Sentai anniversary (which, if my math is right, would also be Toei's 75?) Why wait for a specific year to have an awesome season, why not just enjoy them as they come along?
** They make it like Gokaiger is the last season or something by pulling out all the stops...
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** But what about shows like Fiveman where it wasn't a matter of leggings and a skirt but a completly different lower spandex design, the women for example had a sort of bathing suit cut to end the upper suit.
*** Some of the examples listed, like Bioman or Flashman, don't work because Yellow's a girl and Blue's a boy, like Gokaiger and thus negating the need for gender swapped costumes. However, if any of those costumes do need to be gender swapped, then they can make two sets of suits.
** Why go big now and not wait for the 40th, 50th, or whatever anniversary? To cut down on the [[Author Existence Failure|Author Existence Failures]]. If you look at other franchises that his 35 or more, you can see they lost plenty of their stars, ruining the chance of a return for a anniversary celebration (Deforest Kelly and James Doohan from [[Star Trek]], Alec Guinness from [[Star Wars]], the first three Doctors from [[
* Why have them transform into the Gaoranger in 8 if that's the series that's getting the limelight in the very next episode? Seems redundant.
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*** That wouldn't be very practical considering it has two swords. If it had a hook, then it would be actually quite hindered in battle even if it could use the hook as as weapon, as the hook would be limited in movement while the sword in the other hand is free to be swung in any which way.
*** Still, they could at least fold up that fist. It just seems out of place with the race car design.
**** I think when it's in car form, the fist is supposed to pass as an engine blower ([https://web.archive.org/web/20140216192232/http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/407583-bigthumbnail.jpg like this.]) I agree that it doesn't look all that accurate, but we've had a Triceratops with caterpillar treads in the past, so stranger things have happened.
* Where are some people getting the 200 Heroes idea? It's not a whole lot, but there's a small handful of postings over on the WMG page guessing at who the 200th hero will be. The problem comes up when you crunch the numbers: 33 teams have 5 members, +3 from Sun Vulcan, +4 from Abaranger, +15 [[Sixth Ranger]] Keys held by Gokai Silver (so 16), +10 Extras (Signalman, Bullblack, Dekamaster, Dekaswan, Magi Mother, Wolzard Fire, Zuuban, Rio, Mele, and Princess Shinken Red) comes to a grand total of 198. Assuming AkaRed shows up, that's still only 199. Why are some people trying to round up to a solid 200?
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* I can understand GaoLion giving GokaiOh the ability to become Gao GokaiOh... {{spoiler|1=but how the hell can it give it the ability to become ShinkenGokaiOh? Wouldn't the Gokaigers need the Shishi Origami to do that?}}
** Two main factors, probably: The [[Merchandise
** The Gokaiger's powers will likely change him in the same way they changed Gao Lion to begin with, who is the original article and not a recreation made by the Sentai Keys.
** It may also show some connection to the currently running [[Power Rangers Samurai|Power Rangers Season]] at the moment. Seeing as the former [[Power Rangers Wild Force|Wild Force Red Ranger]] is a bad guy in that season.
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** Maybe the stuff that's really heavy is bolted down?
** Its amazing what you can do with artificial gravity, which we know it has from the fact that down is still down in it when its in space.
** Maybe it's like a [[Doctor Who
** As seen in episode 29 its still there when a Zangyack action commander entered and was chased all over [[Gokai Oh]]'s Galleon section.
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** [[You Fail Economics Forever]]
* Are the Gokaigers other than Red ever going to fight (or at least move a few feet?) in their own mecha? What is even the point of having [[Combining Mecha]] (other than [[Merchandise
** They did already.
** {{spoiler|They do in #36 when they're trying to chase Machalcon down.}}
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* The previous sentai losing their powers makes sense for the teams who derive their powers from mystical sources, but what about all the technology-based teams? What's stopping them from acquiring new sets of [[Transformation Trinket|Transformation Trinkets]]?
** [[No Plans, No Prototype, No Backup]] would be my guess.
** Or in some cases, perhaps giving up the powers also depleted whatever power source or [[Applied Phlebotinum]] they used to create the powers in the first place- for example it could have depleted the [[Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger|DekaBase's]] supply of DekaMetal.
*** {=[[Deka Base]]=} is a mecha, so it may have actually been destroyed in the Legend War - in the Dekaranger tribute episode, SPD's police station looked nothing like the Dekabase interior.
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* If Luka or Ahim transforms into a heavily armored character like [[Gekisou Sentai Carranger|Signalman]], [[Mahou Sentai Magiranger|Wolzard Fire]], or [[Tensou Sentai Goseiger|Gosei Knight]], will their suits still gain a skirt?
** Most likely, they're simply not going to, for the simple fact of sparing the costume team the hassle (since they must already be stressed to a breaking point.) However, in a fun little bit of WMG, I figured it would be some skirt-like armored panels (like [http://www.amasterofmagic.com/MysticKnight.jpg this] or [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/13558L.JPG this.]{{Dead link}})
** Perhaps like something from [[Star Wars: Clone Wars]].
** With Magi Mother, Deka Swan, and Mele, there's no real point in them needing to turn into a male Extra Ranger
** To officially answer your question, as of #37: they don't! Luka transforms into Zubaan and nothing gets added on.
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* Just popped into my head, but I was thinking since Gokaiger is one big continuity and there are multiple Heaven-like places (Magitopia and Gosei World from what I've seen)...so like, have they all joined together or are they found in different places or...or maybe I'm just thinking too much.
** Most likely they're still seperate places. Heaven to each Sentai group tied to them but multiple heavens.
*** Magitopia is apparently where strong magicians go when they [[Ascend to
* So how do you {{spoiler|elope from your son}}, exactly?
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* Go-onger's Great Power, Engine Machalcon: {{spoiler|The son of Bear RV and Speedor. How the heck do motor vehicles reproduce?}}
** It's possible that {{spoiler|1=Engine biology is completely different from normal human/animal biology, but as for how a bird-machine and a bear-machine can produce ''another'' bird-machine, your guess is as good as mine.}}
*** Then again, this is ''[[Engine Sentai
* Ok, I can understand most of the Great Powers being used once (I personally think they'll be used again), but why did Super Live Robo pretty much show up and blow away the enemy...that's it. Unlike Daibouken, they actually summoned Super Live Robo ''physically''. Is it just me, or does this seem like a waste of a perfectly good addition? Not only could they make a new toy to sell, being able to summon another complete mecha to join them in battle would've been benefital and probably helpful in battle. Or at the very least, they could've made it astral like DaiBouken and attack, but they decided to ''physically'' summon a mecha and it just blasts the enemy. Don't get me wrong, I love the attack and think it's awesome, but I just feel like it could've been far more epic and have more than one use. Heck, they could've had Joe pilot Super Live Robo and finish off the enemy personally. I'm just a little irratated they overlooked all the possibilities they could've done.
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** Yeah but here's the thing no one is limited to their coresponding Keys they could use any they like also who said Gokaiger was getting a super mode?Not to say they won't but it's not set in stone.Also Gai dosen't need to be involved in another finisher given he has at least three(four at most) he dosen't need to be part of another,also what do you mean by "Gokaigers would be the same why without Gai involved ,aside from Goujyujin"?If you mean in overall performance in battle, probaly not since battles have been pretty tough lately and without Gai the Gokaigers would most likely have been defeated.Lastly supporting roll?Pfft like I said without Gai as their [[Sixth Ranger]] the team would most likely get defeated.
*** Ok...[[Rouge Angles of Satin|from what I could decipher from that]], Gai IS limited to his corresponding keys due to the way the [[Gokai Cellular]] works. [[Merchandise
**** Excuse my spelling I have a habit of typing carlessly(there's no reason to be a rude dick about it though),anyway I'm saying think about the way the Gold mode is used it's plugged into the bottom,who says other keys that aren't buttons on the Gokai cellular can't be used that way?Also stay efficient?Ok Gokaiger isn't really a total "every last ranger is serious" type of sentai so having a comedic Sixth dosen't really screw with the dynamic all that much even with his supossed Spot light stealing status,as for the buster *shruges* all i have to say is don't overthink it it's just a kids show.P.S. yes I do think they would skip out on the opertunity considering their were seasonal gaps in rangers getting super modes.
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** Presumeably, they were made by AkaRed, who has simular powers naturally due to being the [[Anthropomorphic Personification]] of the Red Ranger Spirit.
* The justification for not using the Treasure seems a bit thin. After all, we're talking entire ''worlds'' destroyed by Zangyack - billions upon billions of people. Surely the fact that Rangers provide inspiration as well as monster-blow-uppage can't take precedence. Now, Earth's sentai teams never having existed may cause as much damage to the universe as Zangyack - there were many galaxy-spanning evils stopped cold [[Tokyo Is the Center of
** I believe that the evil groups that the Sentai fought would also be taken care of by the Treasure. After all, you can't very well live in a "universe at peace" if any of those dicks are running around, and I doubt the Sentai members would have given the Gokaiger's their blessing to use it if it meant their old foes would benefit from it. Odds are, the evil teams would just not exist along with the Super Sentai teams if that's what they desired. However, even then, here's a question for those that would think using the treasure is the only sensible option: if there was a button in front of you that would make it so that every war that ever occurred in our history never happened, would you press it?
** I think you also have to look at it at who to Gokaiger are. They are pirates, while also heroes, they don't want the easy way out of anything. It is perfectly consistent in the Gokaiger's characters to refuse to use a "magic reset" button.
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