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**** Lets recap on the possesion of the Reaver: First, it was taken from Janos Retreat to the Sarafan Stronghold then it was found by Raziel and use its power to kill all his human brothers and his Sarafan self, The Reaver turns on Raziel after the Spectral Reaver manages to manifest on the real world after being away from Moebious Staff and if it wasnt for Kain, Raziel would have been trapped in the Reaver (as expected). Kain now holds The Reaver and during all Defiance he still holds it until the end where he accidentaly stabs Raziel with the Reaver and becomes purified. For some reason, the blade doesnt go berseker again even if its the same one as the last time.
*** It went "berserk" on him the first time to force him to stab himself. The last time, he was already stabbed of his own accord. Why would it go "berserk" when the object of going berserk (to stab Raziel) has already happened?
**** How about the Avernus fight of Kain and Raziel? Before having his hearth being torn out of his torso by Raziel, he accidentally started to absorb Raziel into the Reaver. The question is, why didnt the Reaver went berseker there? Think about it, everyone expected Kain to die at least in this timeline on Avernus and if we count that the Reaver is basically the best method of dealing with guys that cant stay day for 2 seconds (like Raziel or Kain) then having the Reaver act that way would have made sense.......except it didnt for some reason. It didnt take long in the [[SR 2]]SR2 finale for the Spectral Reaver to engulf itself on the Reaver and going berseker, so why not in that moment where everyone seemed to make all their bets on Kain dying?
*** Because history didn't dictate that Raziel get absorbed into the Reaver at that point in time.
 
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** [[Rule of Cool]], [[Rule of Cool]], [[Rule of Cool]]. Raziel's ruined wings are important thematically as well as for gameplay purposes. From the beginning he was supposed to be a fallen angel type character seeking redemption, and from there it sort of evolved into him being a twisted echo of the original elder race that became the vampires who ruled over the Pillars (though clearly not the first vampires, as the Hylden vamp in BO2 seems to indicate.)
 
* How, just '''how''' is the Soul Reaver possible to exist in the original timeline? {{[[User|Albertosaurus]] This troper}} put together an [http://members.multimania.nl/matthijs_alberts/LokTimeline_web.htm entire multi-timeline for the series] and the original timeline is causing problems. By manipulating the Kain to kill William the Just, Moebius changed the timeline to incite a vampire genocide, making vampires extinct except for Kain, leaving him with two bad options (Although it later turns out that there is an [[Take a Third Option|Edge Of The Coin]], of course). Fine. So Kain refuses the sacrifice and founds an empire. ''But did his empire exist in the original timeline?'' If it did not, then how is the Soul Reaver created, since to become the ''Soul'' Reaver, the reaver needs to absorb the wraith Raziel. But if it did already exist, then why was it necessary to change history in the first place? And how would it have come into existence anyway? And why does Kain retain his memories of the original timeline if other paradoxes change his memories, like at the end of ''Soul Reaver 2''?
** (By the way, the e-mail address mentioned on the timeline is defunct by now.)
** Nosgothic timeline is static, you did take that into account, yes? Right, now since we got that fact we can build upwards:
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