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==== YMMVs introduced by ''Force'': ====
* [[Complete Monster]]: The Huckebein, who kill countless people without feeling any remorse. In-universe, the characters do not have the same sympathy for them that they did for other villains.
** Given Vandine Corporation has been confirmed to have given them jobs, we can safely add them to this list. And that's not counting the experiments which usually ended in either [[And I Must Scream]] or Runaway Eclipse Drivers.
** Cypha.
* [[Contested Sequel]]: Largely because of the [[Darker and Edgier]] atmosphere, move away from [[Magical Girl]] tropes, new main character, and largely unsympathetic villains who {{spoiler|defeat and severely wound Signum and Hayate}}.
** A good number of people have pointed to apparent lapses in the worldbuilding and raw writing as a sign of a general drop in quality, but this opinion is far from universal enough to qualify for [[Sequelitis]].
* [[Creator's Pet]]: During the first chapters of ''FORCE'' Tohma is introduced to us without much backstory and the [[Base Breaker|fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of chapters we've informed right of the bat that [[Remember the New Guy?|he knows and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] without very little explanation or background whatsoever.
** In interviews the author has seemed genuinely shocked that people do not find the Huckebein sympathetic or likeable, particularly Cypha.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]:
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* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Arnage, which is the other reason for the above.
** Curren has started to catch the attention of part of the fanbase just because of this.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: A lot of it. It's easy enough to write it off as not even being a ''Nanoha'' series, since it has '''nothing''' in common with the other entries in the franchise other than some similar-looking characters with the same names.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: A lot of it.
* [[Funny Moments (Sugar Wiki)|Funny Moments]]: Wendi and Teana's [http://www.mangafox.com/manga/mahou_senki_lyrical_nanoha_force/v04/c017/28.html response] to Touma and Lily staying in the same room.
* [[Generic Doomsday Villain]]: The Huckebein, so far.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: The Huckebein may have been meant to be seen as this, but their attitude towards killing, lack of redeeming features and little emphasis on their plight prevents them from being sympathetic.
* [[Jumping the Shark]]/[[Ruined FOREVER]]: ''Force'' is the season with the biggest amount of backlash to date. It elicited this reaction for having a heterosexual male lead and supposedly dropping the magical girl tropes. Not to mention they put some of the most cheered characters this franchise have in real danger of suffering [[Badass Decay]], starting with {{spoiler|[[Lady of War|Signum]]}}.
* [[Gary Stu]]: Tohma. The fact that he's the replacement protagonist for Nanoha, of all people (despite the series still being ''named after her''), is just the crappy, burnt cake the writer served. The several types of icing are his hax mode powers, his adoration by the legacy characters, and his textbook [[Wangst]]y past.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Cypha admitting to killing dozens of civilians and treating it casually.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: Tohma has drawn a lot of fire for being a [[Cursed Withwith Awesome|very typical, male, angst-ridden main character]] with a [[Story-Breaker Power]] [[Ass Pull|pulled out of nowhere]] that can beat out the established and well-developed main characters of previous seasons with little effort.
** The Huckebein in general have been accused of being a [[Replacement Scrappy]] for the ''A's''-era Wolkenritter, as they hit many of the same general tropes excluding motivation.
*** Being made even more obvious since [[Hostile Show Takeover|most of the Huckebein's victims so far]] are members of the [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha As (Anime)A's/Characters|Yagami Family]] with only a single exception.
* [[The Scrappy]]:
** Cypha's caught a lot of flak for handing {{spoiler|Signum}} her first real defeat, and for being kind of a bitch about it. When it was announced that ''[[GearsMagical ofGirl DestinyLyrical (VideoNanoha Game)A's Portable|Gears of Destiny]]'' will feature ''Force'' characters, many were hoping Cypha would be included, so they can [[Catharsis Factor|beat the crap out of her.]]
** Curren probably beat Precia's record for instant hatedom, considering the chapter with her first appearance wasn't even translated yet and people already wanted her to die. For ''[[Twilight (Literaturenovel)|Twilight]]'' haters, her name being the same as a certain sparkly vampire is just the icing on the cake. The reason? {{spoiler|Debuting by instantly impaling Hayate in the back}}.
* [[Scrappy Weapon]]: Most people don't really like the AEC Equipment much, since their main purpose in the story seems to be preventing the heroes from using magic in a story and setting about magic, and they show no signs of going away anytime soon.
** Lots of people however like the AEC Equipment simply because they look [[Badass]].
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