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** Who here was familiar with ''[[Doctor Slump]]'' before Goku and General Blue visited Penguin Village?
*** In Spain, ''[[Doctor Slump]]'' was popular too.
*** An interesting case happened in Malaysia. The Penguin Village episode aired in Malaysia around 1997-1998 if my memory serves me correctly, Dr Slump later aired 4-54–5 years after the episode aired.
** ''Fusion Reborn'' was released in North America in March 2006. Before that, the video game ''Budokai 3'' had Gogeta as a playable character in 2004, and 2005's ''Budokai Tenkaichi'' had Gogeta and the movie's antagonist, Janemba. Gogeta was also in the game ''Ultimate Battle 22'', but they tried to cover it up by calling him Vegito (another fusion). ''Budokai 3'' also came out a few months before ''[[Dragon Ball GT]]'' ended, so it additionally spoiled Omega Shenron and Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta. The aforementioned Gogeta is also playable in his Super Saiyan 4 state from the end of GT, making him a double spoiler.
** ''Raging Blast 2'' averts this with Hatchiyack, since the game comes with a remake of the anime special he debuted in. However, it's played straight with Tarble, from the yet-to-be-dubbed ''Son Goku and his Friends Return''.
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*** And now, with ''[[Trinity Universe (video game)|Trinity Universe]]'', it's happening ''again'', with Violet Platane of ''Atelier <s>Viorate</s>Violet'' making her American debut in that game. Potentially rabid gamers wielding carrots have, in fact, been spotted outside the NISA offices.
** Speaking of ''[[Cross Edge|X Edge]]'', 4 characters from it, Lily, Whim, Raze, and Rewrich are from ''Mana Khemia 2'', a game that was planned to be brought over by NISA..... months after ''[[Cross Edge|X Edge]]'' in spite of MK2 far preceding it in Japan in both system and release dates.
** Relatedly, the ''Atelier'' series first came to the US via the ''Iris'' subseries, which was an attempt to use some of the ''Atelier'' concepts in a more standard RPG -- namelyRPG—namely, one with a male lead and a Defeat The [[Big Bad]] main plot. The fact that ''these'' were the ones that finally managed to get companies interested in a US release is irksome to some fans, as well.
** In a franchise sense, the newest ''Atelier'' games are now coming over, Rorona and Annie respectively... which means that this trope has happened ''again''. Liese Randel in ''[[Atelier Annie]]'' shows up in the second year of gameplay to help out our heroine and seemingly has a bit of history... history which is covered in ''her own game'', ''Atelier Liese'', which didn't make it out of Japan<ref>For reasons related to [[Game Breaking Bugs]] in the initial release</ref> meaning English gamers only know her from ''Annie''.
* Cless Albane and Arche Klein, of ''[[Tales of Phantasia]]'' fame, made their Western debut in 1998... in a cameo in ''[[Tales of Destiny]]''. And then they appeared in ''[[Tales of Eternia]]'' (known in the West as ''Tales Of Destiny 2'') as a [[Bonus Boss]] fight. ''[[Tales of Phantasia]]'' didn't cross the Pacific until 2006, ''over a decade'' after its debut in Japan and ''eight years'' after the characters showed up in ToD.
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== Turn Based Strategy ==
* The [[Trope Namer]] and current world record holder of this trope is, of course, Marth, the star of the original ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' game who made his (and the series as a whole) Western debut in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]] Melee'', over a decade after the first ''Fire Emblem'' game was released in Japan. His presence and popularity motivated Nintendo to release ''Fire Emblem'' games in the West at last. However, since that series uses mostly [[Non-Linear Sequel|Non-Linear Sequels]]s, until 2009 Marth would not appear in any of his own games, despite appearing in ''Super Smash Brothers'' twice! However, in 2009 the [[Nintendo DS]] remake of his game finally, FINALLY reached Western shores. This was around '''eight years''' after the various Western releases of ''Super Smash Brothers: Melee'' and almost '''''nineteen years''''' after his initial Famicom debut in Japan!
** Roy actually ''did'' debut in ''Melee'' - his own game hadn't come out yet in Japan when the game was released, and his inclusion (and possibly Marth's as well) was meant to promote the upcoming game. His game never even made it to America, who instead got the prequel starring his father Eliwood. For Europe and Australia, however, this is a straight example, as ''Melee'' came out there a few months after ''The Sword of Seals'' was released in Japan.
** Technically, Marth debuted in the USA (as "[[Spell My Name with an "S"|Mars]]") when the ''Fire Emblem'' OVA was released, in 1997.
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