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Jean Gray died in 1980, and Bonita Juarez first appeared in 1981. Bonita gained the ability to manipulate flame with her mind, assuming a flaming bird shape around her body. When she uses her powers for the first time in a while she creates an enormous giant flaming bird shape on the horizon. She also had mental powers and could sense when someone like Hank Pym was in trouble and distress. And it was stated she was immortal and could not naturally die. Those three powers, together in combination: fire manipulation in a flame bird shape, mental powers, and tremendous longevity/life force are so idiosyncratically "phoenix-like" the character idea seems totally random if she ''isn't'' a phoenix. Also, there were a bunch of other events that showed she was more than just a typical pyrokinetic. For instance, she was able to use her flame to deal additional damage and purify demons and do extra harm to werewolves, as well as destroy illusions during the team up between the Avengers West Coast and Werewolf by Night.

* This was a plot-point in Alan Davis' 2006 miniseries ''Fantastic Four: The End''. Far in the 616-future, after a vaguely-defined Mutant War had wiped out that, er, species to the point of being [[Un Personed]] (other than their collective deadness), Reed Richards created something called a Methuselah Treatment that extended life-spans, but also upped the dosage on fatalism and depression. So...kind of useless in a [[What the Hell, Hero?]] way.

* Firebird of the West Coast Avengers comes up with a reason for this. She learns that her powers are not direct control of heat or fire, but of random molecular motion. This explains how fire-heroes can generate heat and turn air into plasma, and also how they can fly -- they unconsciously direct molecular movement of the plasma around them in specific directions, giving them buoyancy and thrust. It also explains Sunfire's [[Deflector Shields|protective plasma field]] and implies that all Marvel fire-powered heroes have potentially far greater applications of their powers than they are aware of. But, since this tends to be a [[Personality Powers|Personality Power]] for the [[Hot -Blooded]], it's unlikely that most will have the mental discipline to develop these applications.

* This troper assumes it's an [[AuthorsAuthor's Saving Throw]] for [[Civil War]] to allow Marvel to claim that, notwithstanding the [[Word of God]] that readers were supposed to support the pro-reg side, this had always been planned from day one and that Civil War, Secret Invasion and Dark Reign, taken together, were intended to be a parable about why you shouldn't allow the government too much power, even when notionally "good" people (who will merely throw you into an extra-dimensional concentration camp without charges) are in power because less scrupulous men may follow them and abuse that power.

The fact that Marvel doesn't take that [[AuthorsAuthor's Saving Throw]] and run with it is all the proof I need that there's no God. [[God Is Evil|Then again...]]

== [[Howard the Duck (Comic Bookcomics)|Howard the Duck]] will be [[Retcon|Retconned]] into originating from the [[Disney Ducks Comic Universe]] ==

One of the side effects of Star Brands's [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|messing]] with [[Timey -Wimey Ball|time and causality]] is that an [[Alternate Reality]] version of his was spawned in a state of reverberation between the Marvel and DC Universes. Additionaly, that reality shakeup (the White Event) woke up the Brothers and made them aware of each other.

* SO what about the U-foes or alternate universe [[F Fs]].

Whatever the Void appears to be right now as of Siege #3 {{spoiler|(a black-red figure with scorpion legs of red energy coming out of his back)}}, it appears to be a darkness embodied. I'm not sure since when Siege was set up from, but ever since Sentry showed up, we've gotten the above mentioned events, and the heroes have slowly been losing against the villains. We know Sentry's able to use telepathy to mind-wipe the entire world, so maybe it's possible that he's been influencing the entire Marvel Universe without anyone knowing the wiser, in preparation for his final strike against the world.

People in the Marvel Universe see people dying and then coming back. As a result, they slowly lose the ability to grieve since they are never sure if their loved ones will come come and they can't go on. It's like if a person goes missing, their loved ones can't grieve properly until they know for sure that person is dead. But this is worst since that person really is dead and when they come back, they throw everything in a loop. So, people lose fear of death and can't truly move on after death.

== Civil War was waged entirely by Skrulls and [[Captain America (comics)]]. ==

First conceived of on [http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2727071.html this] scans_daily thread. Basically, every time Franklin wonders about something, bizarre changes to the status quo happen to reflect his thoughts, regardless of characterization, history, or logic. Ex, if Franklin wonders "What if the bad guys won?" BAM. Siege. "Nah, I don't like the bad guys winning." BAM. Age of Heroes. "Why are mutants treated like a minority?" BAM. House of M. "[[Iron Man|Uncle Tony]] and [[Captain America (comics)|Uncle Steve]] are really close. What if they fight?" BAM. Civil War. "I really wish [[Spider -Man|Uncle Peter]] had more time to spend with me." BAM. [[One More Day]].

** Perfect [[AuthorsAuthor's Saving Throw]], because you can run with it forever without totally handwaving away the events. "The Hulk almost killed Uncle Ben! I hate him!" BAM. Planet Hulk. "The [[Fantastic Four]] are ''so'' much cooler than [[The Avengers]]!" BAM. Avengers Disassembled. "Why does everyone hate superheroes? Do they prefer supervillains or something?" BAM. Dark Reign. And his confusion over everyone flipping out like this all the time? "Are these guys all Skrulls, Daddy?" BAM. Secret Invasion.