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* [[Capcom vs. Whatever/Awesome Music|Awesome Music - Capcom vs. Whatever]]
* [[Marvel vs. Capcom 3
* [[Capcom vs. Whatever/Memes|Memetic Mutation - Capcom vs. Whatever]]
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** As of March 22, 2011, Sentinel's health was officially nerfed from 1.3M HP to 905K.
** '''[[Galactus]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK_r23inl7o is playable in] ''Ultimate.'''''
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3k5WcicY_0 "Heroes vs Heralds"] mode, the mode the dev team was talking about that would change the way you play the game. Very similar in application to the Gems System from ''[[
** Spencer's [[DLC]] costume is of his ''[[Bionic Commando
* [[Broken Base]]: Simply put, the fanbase as a whole is [[Broken Base|a bit divided.]]
** With the inclusion of Zero brings the resurgence of a long-standing debate over [[Mega Man X
** There's also the outcry that ''X himself'' was disconfirmed, with many of his fans proclaiming that it was finally time for Capcom to give X his due.<br /><br />And [[It Got Worse]] when X was inserted... as an alternate costume for Zero. Cue rage from the fans who wanted X in as his own unique character, and a smaller portion who wanted his [[
** There's also the exclusion of the original Mega Man, with the devs saying that they don't want to put him in the game due to the previous game's mediocre moveset as well as representing the series with the aforementioned Zero. Many people have accused the devs of laziness and hypocrisy, due to the fact they completely changed Jill's moveset, and wondering why the devs couldn't apply this same treatment to him. <ref>It should be noted that Jill's moveset is changed because they use [[RE 5]] Jill, not the [[RE 1]] one (the one in [[Mv C 2]]). Still, it's widely seen as a weak excuse.</ref>
** [http://www.newsarama.com/games/marvel-vs-capcom-3-preview-interview-110201.html An interview to Seth Killian made by Newsarama] becomes ironic when it was confirmed that Iron Fist and Ghost Rider are playable in ''UMvC3''. A snippet:
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** The ''existence'' of ''UMvC3'' is a point of contention for the fanbase. In one corner, you have fans decrying an [[Updated Rerelease]] being announced no less than ''five months'' after the original game's release; the other side more or less says, [[Capcom Sequel Stagnation|"This is Capcom. You should have seen it coming."]] There's also a subset that falls somewhere in the middle of this that believes that while a psuedo-sequel is the usual business for Capcom and is not ''too'' irked by it, it probably would have been better for them to have just waited until everything was ready to go since the window between vanilla and ''Ultimate'' was only about eight months. Explanations given in later interviews (such as Japan's 2011 Earthquake ruining the DLC plans for MvC3 and giving UMvC3 as a result) helped to abate some of the backlash, [[Fan Dumb|but alas...]]
*** The trailer, especially considering the leaked list of fighters appearing (or better yet, ''not'' appearing) for each company.
*** This goes double for the revelation that [[Mega Man (
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* [[Character Tiers]]: In Vanilla: Dante, Phoenix, Wesker, and Wolverine are the [[Tier
** Early looks into ''Ultimate'' are giving a lot of hype to the newly-buffed Captain America, Vergil, Phoenix Wright, and Hawkeye.
** Wesker has been at a high position on the Tier list for both games. He got ''better'' in ''Ultimate'', now with an infamous buff when he takes off his glasses, leading many to decry his spot as the third character on many teams where he now gets [[Game Breaker|"Level 4 X-Factor"]].
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* [[Contested Sequel]]: A good number of fans tried to compare this game with its previous installments. Expect heated debates.
* [[Counterpart Comparison]]:
** The Marvel and Capcom characters introduced side-by-side in every trailer have a theme and/or similarities:<br /><br />Ryu and Wolverine: Both of whom have cases of [[Wolverine Publicity]], appearing in many spinoff medias, and being the "icons" of both the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' and ''[[X-Men]]'' series, respectively. They can also be considered the unofficial "icon" for both Capcom, Marvel, and the whole ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom]]'' crossover series. Both also [[Spirited Competitor|love]] [[Blood Knight|fighting]], have their own honor code, and both are [[Determinator|very determined to achieve their goals.]]<br /><br />Morrigan and Iron Man: The former is a [[Horny Devils]], the latter is a [[Casanova]]. Overlaps with [[Crossover Ship]]. Both also uses jet booster to fly (although Morrigan can also use her wings, she just prefers turning them into jet boosters).<br /><br />Chris and Hulk: The former is trained to fight bioweapons, and the latter can be considered one of them. There is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuXkVzBdJQ the Chris + Boulder RE5 video]. Chris punched [[Memetic Mutation|that boulder]] into the lava. Hulk's Gamma Crush uses a flaming boulder.<br /><br />Dante and Deadpool: Both are [[Crazy Awesome]] sword-wielding, gun-toting, wisecracking red-clad mercenaries with a [[Healing Factor]] whose names starts with D. [[Not So Different]] indeed. Their themes are also the only ones which are rock arrangements with vocals. Both also have two similar hypers: Million Dollars and Devil Must Die for Dante, and Happy-Happy Trigger and Cuttin' Time for Deadpool.<br /><br />Felicia and Captain America: Both love freedom, are [[Eagle Land|eaglelanders]] as well, (moreso with Cap) and they both happen to be the most pure-hearted of their respective series.<br /><br />Chun-Li and Doctor Doom: Both characters possesses deep love for their parents (her father for Chun-li, and his mother for Doom).<br /><br />Trish and Super-Skrull: Both were made to impersonate certain traits of people related to the protagonist of their series. Trish was made to look like Dante's mom and has a weapon of Sparda's, while Super-Skrull, of course, copies the powers of the [[Fantastic Four]].<br /><br />Amaterasu and Thor: Both are [[Physical God|Physical Gods]] and share an [[Elemental Powers]]: [[Shock and Awe|lightning]]. If you take into account actual [[Japanese Mythology]], Thor could be likened (somewhat) to Susanoo, Amaterasu's brother and the Shinto god of sea and storms.<br /><br />Viewtiful Joe and Dormammu: they both get more power from their respective realms (MovieLand and the Dark Dimension.) Both also [[Playing
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9OqbiRLaho opening movie] of ''Ultimate'' had all of these rivalries scrambled and re-done to include new characters.<br /><br />Ryu and Nova: Both have a strong sense of heroism and are good at firing energy blasts. Both also have a [[Kamehame Hadoken]] as one of their hypers.<br /><br />Wolverine and Vergil: Both are (or, in case of Wolverine, was) samurai who have a strong sense of honor. They tend to win fights by slicing their enemies and both have [[Healing Factor|healing factors]]. Wolverine has the Adamantium claws which is said as the unbreakable metal; Vergil's Yamato is able to cut anything, thus giving the theme of [[Unstoppable Force Meets Immovable Object]]. Also, Wolverine uses savage brawling while Vergil uses refined swordmanship. In gameplay terms, they both have a [[Super Mode]].<br /><br />Hulk and Haggar: Both are big hulking bruisers. There's also their respective quotes to each other in the game itself, emphasizing their rivalry.<br /><br />Dante and Ghost Rider: Both are demon-hunting badasses. While Dante is cocky and loves to crack jokes, Ghost Rider is cold, serious, and intimidating. This is also shown in Dante's vanilla ''MvC3'' ending.<br /><br />Morrigan and Dr. Strange: Strange deals with abominations from other dimensions; Morrigan is just one of them.<br /><br />Strider Hiryu and Spider-Man: In the artwork for the online re-release of ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 2
* [[Crack Pairing]]:
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* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: [[Magnificent Bastard|Albert Wesker]], [[Brainwashed and Crazy|Jill Valentine]], ([[Anti-Villain|to some extent]]) [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|Tron Bonne]], [[Super-Powered Evil Side|Dark Phoenix]], and several others as taste and fetish dictate. [[Averted Trope|Not]] [[Horny Devils|Morrigan]], however; she is undeniably sexy, [[Dark Is Not Evil|but she is not evil]].
* [[Fan Dumb]]: There's a large amount of fans of certain dis-confirmed characters [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|who will flame anyone who doesn't agree that the exclusion of the character they wanted makes the cast totally worthless]].
** In particular, many [[Mega Man (
* [[Fashion Victim Villain]]: Taskmaster's Carrot Orange outfit from his time in the Frightful Four makes a return.
* [[Flanderization]]: Phoenix, especially in contrast with the other X-Men. All of her battle quotes seem to revolve around her fear of Dark Phoenix, whereas Storm, Wolverine, and X-23 all have surprising degrees of characterization for a [[Fighting Game]].
* [[Fountain of Memes]]: ''Anything'' [[Deadpool]] says is liable to [[Memetic Mutation]]. He has given us more phrases than EMP '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA "IT'S MAHVEL,] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE!"]''' Yipes, and is giving [[Fatal Fury|Terry]] [[The King of Fighters
{{quote| '''Deadpool''': ''[[Cloudcuckoolander|I love me some]]--[[Cloudcuckoolander|pineapple!]]'' <ref>Done by performing his medium Ninja Gift ("Pineapple!") immediately after his Trigger Happy ("I love me some guns!"). Both quotes are unused in the actual game, though.</ref><br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Trigger Happy|I love me some guns!]]'' <ref>Not present in the final build of the game, instead replaced by the below quote.</ref><br />
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'''Deadpool''': ''[[Wrong Genre Savvy|Anime power up time!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Screw This, I'm Outta Here|Bathroom break!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Amusing Injuries|Ow!]] [[Ow, My Body Part|My kidney!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Your Mom|Yo momma]]!''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Blood Knight|Who was I supposed to kill again? Heh, doesn't matter]]!''<br />
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'''Deadpool''' (''up first against Magneto''): (''[[Evil Laugh]]'') ''[[Ascended Meme|MAGNETO, WELCOME TO]] '''[[Ascended Meme|DIE]]'''!''<br />
'''Deadpool''' (''upon defeating Magneto''): ''[[Ascended Meme|I just beat Mag-freakin'-neto! Where yo curleh mustache at?]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''' (''upon defeating Wolverine''): ''You see that? That's how you beat Wolverine, people. [[Take That|AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED]] [[X-Men (
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Captain Obvious|This is my taunt!]] [[Don't Explain the Joke|Heh. Get it?]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Exactly What It Says
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]:
** Iron Man's rib towards Spencer in regards to his bionic arm ("Just the arm? What? Can't afford the rest of the suit?") takes on a darker, more somber tone if you played the 2009 ''[[
** The "too much RAM" jokes regarding the Human Torch's removal from the game also become slightly more awkward now that {{spoiler|the Torch was killed off in the comics.}}
* [[Game Breaker]]: Sentinel was this before the health nerf although his power, defensive capabilities with [[Beam Spam|neutralize]] and armored normals and amazing assist help to keep him viable. Also, Zero [[Difficult but Awesome|in the hands of a highly competent player.]]
** X-Factor, particularly Level 3, which can quickly change the tide of the battle.
** Phoenix is the major one, mainly due to Dark Phoenix being an enormous pain to fight and even more of one if X-Factor is involved; see "[[Tier
* [[Genius Bonus]]: [[Captain America]]'s quip against Zero can be a reference to the [[Zeroes and Ones|binary numbers concept]], or the fact that Japanese fighter pilots in WWII were nicknamed "Zeroes", though Cap didn't fight in the Pacific.
** Or the fact that zero is a generic insult.
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{{quote| ''"I get to be on the cover of the next'' [[Street Fighter]] ''for this, right Capcom? RIGHT?"''}}
** Chris said to Wesker in ''[[Resident Evil 5|RE5]]'', "Do you take all your ideas from comic book villains?"
*** In a similar vein, in ''[[
** [[Johnny Yong Bosch]] is voicing yet another [[Code Geass|Zero]], who has a [[Sword Beam]], which [[Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World|three]] [[Devil May Cry|other]] [[Bleach|characters]] he voiced have, as one of his Hyper Combos.
** Morrigan has a Scottish accent with her English voice (makes sense, as she's from Scotland). She sounds much better with it here than her American animated self.
** The [[Ultimate Marvel]] version of Nick Fury appears in C. Viper's ending. Most people saw it as odd... until the [[Updated Rerelease]] came out with the name '''''Ultimate''' MvC3''.
** In ''[[Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
*** At one point during ''Trials and Tribulations'', Phoenix wondered about who would pay for a fight between a lawyer and "a giant robot" after [[Makes Just
*** The announcer of the game sometimes says ''"Let your fists do the talking!"'', when the lineup of characters for the next match is presented. If Phoenix Wright is on a team, his [[Badass Pacifist|fighting]] [[Talking the Monster
*** The announcer may also say ''"Go for broke, FIGHT!"'', which is equally amusing given Wright's financial problems sometimes in his own series, despite being a lawyer.
** [http://brokenteapot.deviantart.com/art/Resident-Lawsuit-153741550 A fan art of both Phoenix Wright and Nemesis] becomes funnier when all 3 of these characters are in ''Ultimate''.
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{{quote| '''Iron Man's intro against female character''': ''So, you doing anything after this?''<br />
'''Rocket Raccoon's winquote against Ammy''': ''So... you doing anything after this, cutie? Rowwwr!'' }}
** Felicia having [[Battle Circuit|Yellow Iris]] as her DLC alt. makes sense given that they're both [[Catgirl|Cat Girls]], but then there's the fact that the two appeared side-by-side in Felicia's ''[[
** Phoenix Wright isn't [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|the first character voiced by Sam Riegel]] [[Memetic Mutation|whose voice gives him]] [[Yu-Gi-Oh!:
* [[Holy Shit Quotient]]: The gameplay videos and especially the trailers have been supplying such moments in spades.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: ''The sole mention of the game'' is enough cause for a heated debate. Poor Capcom...
** Usually happened when characters are confirmed not to be in the game, although a lot of the newcomers receive a good chunk of it as well. Admittedly, some arguments are actually reasonable and well-thought out, but it mostly tends to [[Flame War|get WAY out of hand]]. It pretty much comes in one of four flavors:
{{quote| "X is [[Game Breaker|BROKEN!]]"<br />
"X [[Tier
[[The Unexpected|"Wait, why did X get in over Y?"]]<br />
[[Critical Research Failure|"X's presence caused Y to be disconfirmed]], [[Insane Troll Logic|so I hate them."]] }}
** Go on the official ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' facebook page and "request" a character somebody doesn't agree with (read: "anybody"). Prepare to be in an argument.
** With the announcement of ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'', and being less than half a year since the game was released, [[It Got Worse|things have gotten worse.]] It calmed down a little, when Seth Killian explained that DLC plans were shelved whilst the development team (based in Japan) dealt with the aftermath of the 2011 Tsunami. The reason the game itself is coming out so early is because Capcom already has ''[[
** Then, Ryota Niitsuma explained that [[
* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: On the opposite end of the [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]] debacle (see below), there's an equally large swarm of people complaining that the game is too close to ''MvC2'' and ''TvC''. Yes, the fanbase is as quenchless as Galactus.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Wesker. In his ending, despite {{spoiler|the completely unforeseen arrival of Galactus}}, he still managed to play the situation to his advantage.
* [[Memetic Badass]]:
** Mike Haggar, the shark pile-driving Mayor of Earth. To gamers, Haggar is the perfect example of an "action politician".
** Dante, the slo-mo pizza eater who is invincible! (Only in [[Cutscene Power to
** Chris, the boulder-smasher.
** Ghost Rider, due to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx8ob0BAkOs a particular incident involving Galactus] [[Fantastic Four (
* [[Most Wonderful Sound]]:
** The announcer's declaration "You have saved the Earth!"
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** To a lesser extent, the effect of the X-Factor in ''Ultimate MvC3''. It turns the user into a black silhouette with red outlines and aura. It's a bit unnerving to some.
** Oh guys, you have not seen the Level 3 hyper of Ghost Rider have you? <ref> ''[[Brown Note|It's his Penance Stare.]]'' [[Sarcasm Mode|Have]] [[Nightmare Face|a good]] [[Death Glare|night's]] [[Mind Rape|sleep.]]</ref>
** [[Resident Evil 3 Nemesis|Nemesis]] is making his Fighting Game debut, but is it lessening any of his horrifying nature? ''Hell no''. Tentacles burst forth from nearly every pore of his body, he's one of the tallest characters in the game, and his Level 3 Hyper? Well, [[One-Winged Angel|it involves his final blob form]] constricting the poor opponent, then spitting acid at them from a ''first person view'', no less. Capcom probably got away with adding him in because [[Alien Blood|he bleeds a green liquid]].
* [[Older Than They Think]]: So, Shuma-Gorath's a Doctor Strange villain from the 1970s, right? Wrong! Turns out Shuma-Gorath was invented by Robert E. Howard for a Kull story, written no later than the 1930s (but not published until 1967).
* [[Popularity Power]]: Aside from the constant [[Internet Backdraft]] and [[Base Breaker]] status the newcomers have caused in the game, newcomers from both Marvel and Capcom were already well established characters in their comics (Marvel) and games (Capcom) with years to whole decades of characterization; but [[Street Fighter IV
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]:
** The June 2010 issue of Game Informer confirmed that ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' would use the ''[[
** The E3 build of the game had you hold back and assist to tag out, a la ''Tatsunoko vs. Capcom''. The backlash was so bad that this was eventually changed in the next playable build.
** ''Every'' disconfirmation of a vet or [[Ensemble Darkhorse|fan-favorite]] has caused different sectors of the fandom to claim this.
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** A minor example, Captain America loses his Shield Slash glitch after the patch. Mind you, he lacks OTG, groundbounce or wallbounce attacks, nor an aerial hyper. But it has since died down thanks to his buffs in ''Ultimate''.
* [[Scenery Porn]]: Especially the Asgard and [[New York City|Daily Bugle]] stages.
** [[Scenery Gorn]]: The [[Ghosts
* [[Skill Gate Character]]: More of the simpler characters, if they don't fall into [[Character Tiers|God Tier]] or [[Tier
* [[Scrappy Mechanic]]:
** X-Factor. Particularly level 3 X-Factor as some players feels as it's too strong and lasts too long. Characters like Sentinel and Dark Phoenix can KO anyone with a basic 4-5 hit combo. Many pro players have express their dislike for the mechanic. Some wish for it to be toned down while others want it removed entirely.
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** Rocket Raccoon's Log Trap, as well as his ability to burrow underground.
** Doom is made on this trope, Hidden Missile is a really good assist, has Beam assist, a Beam move, the dreaded [[Fan Nickname|Marlinpie style TAC]] and of course, FOOT DIVE.
* [[Tier
** Ryu got this kind of flak from a surprising amount of fans. Some have even gone far enough to state that Akuma's presence makes Ryu obsolete in every way possible, despite the fact that Ryu can wallbounce and Akuma can't, has better stamina, and possesses quirks such as an ''aimable'' Shinkuu Hadouken.
** Sentinel, for no reason other than his broken status in ''Marvel vs. Capcom 2'', even though Capcom is aware of how powerful he was and has worked to tone him down. There's already a few players loudly proclaiming a need to create an anti-Sentinel team. He does have counters, though, and he's more balanced than he was in ''2'', and even more after the nerfings.
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** Morrigan is starting to get some of this, especially since her playstyle involves spamming the screen with projectiles.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:
** Fans were preparing to [http://www.mvc3bingo.com/ complain about the same game they've been waiting for a decade]. Complaints went from assist characters taking too much damage, missing "important" characters (despite most of the requests not being important to the Marvel universe since [[The Nineties]] or--in the case of Capcom characters--it not having any released game since [[The Nineties]]), the roster size being smaller than ''MvC2'' (despite half of that game's cast consisting of "clone" characters and those few really cared about), its combo-easiness compared to ''MvC2'' (despite there being several infinite combos), that the game takes little to no skill, to trivial stuff like Deadpool's lines, slight changes in movesets, and the game '''not''' being ''[[
** A minor one from ''Ultimate'', people are complaining about the visual effects of X-Factor (the character becomes a black silhouette with red outline and aura, as well as the highlighted X on the lifebar). Another one is the HUD; people preferred the vanilla HUD because the new one is jumbled (Assist 2 on the top, point character in the middle and the Assist 1 on the bottom of the arrangement).
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]:
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