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* [[Contested Sequel]]: A good number of fans tried to compare this game with its previous installments. Expect heated debates.
* [[Counterpart Comparison]]:
** The Marvel and Capcom characters introduced side-by-side in every trailer have a theme and/or similarities:<br /><br />Ryu and Wolverine: Both of whom have cases of [[Wolverine Publicity]], appearing in many spinoff medias, and being the "icons" of both the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' and ''[[X-Men]]'' series, respectively. They can also be considered the unofficial "icon" for both Capcom, Marvel, and the whole ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom]]'' crossover series. Both also [[Spirited Competitor|love]] [[Blood Knight|fighting]], have their own honor code, and both are [[Determinator|very determined to achieve their goals.]]<br /><br />Morrigan and Iron Man: The former is a [[Horny Devils]], the latter is a [[Casanova]]. Overlaps with [[Crossover Ship]]. Both also uses jet booster to fly (although Morrigan can also use her wings, she just prefers turning them into jet boosters).<br /><br />Chris and Hulk: The former is trained to fight bioweapons, and the latter can be considered one of them. There is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuXkVzBdJQ the Chris + Boulder RE5 video]. Chris punched [[Memetic Mutation|that boulder]] into the lava. Hulk's Gamma Crush uses a flaming boulder.<br /><br />Dante and Deadpool: Both are [[Crazy Awesome]] sword-wielding, gun-toting, wisecracking red-clad mercenaries with a [[Healing Factor]] whose names starts with D. [[Not So Different]] indeed. Their themes are also the only ones which are rock arrangements with vocals. Both also have two similar hypers: Million Dollars and Devil Must Die for Dante, and Happy-Happy Trigger and Cuttin' Time for Deadpool.<br /><br />Felicia and Captain America: Both love freedom, are [[Eagle Land|eaglelanders]] as well, (moreso with Cap) and they both happen to be the most pure-hearted of their respective series.<br /><br />Chun-Li and Doctor Doom: Both characters possesses deep love for their parents (her father for Chun-li, and his mother for Doom).<br /><br />Trish and Super-Skrull: Both were made to impersonate certain traits of people related to the protagonist of their series. Trish was made to look like Dante's mom and has a weapon of Sparda's, while Super-Skrull, of course, copies the powers of the [[Fantastic Four]].<br /><br />Amaterasu and Thor: Both are [[Physical God|Physical Gods]] and share an [[Elemental Powers]]: [[Shock and Awe|lightning]]. If you take into account actual [[Japanese Mythology]], Thor could be likened (somewhat) to Susanoo, Amaterasu's brother and the Shinto god of sea and storms.<br /><br />Viewtiful Joe and Dormammu: they both get more power from their respective realms (MovieLand and the Dark Dimension.) Both also [[Playing With Fire|play with fire.]]<br /><br />Tron Bonne and X-23: Both are [[Breakout Character|Breakout Characters]] from their respective series. Both are also [[Anti
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9OqbiRLaho opening movie] of ''Ultimate'' had all of these rivalries scrambled and re-done to include new characters.<br /><br />Ryu and Nova: Both have a strong sense of heroism and are good at firing energy blasts. Both also have a [[Kamehame Hadoken]] as one of their hypers.<br /><br />Wolverine and Vergil: Both are (or, in case of Wolverine, was) samurai who have a strong sense of honor. They tend to win fights by slicing their enemies and both have [[Healing Factor|healing factors]]. Wolverine has the Adamantium claws which is said as the unbreakable metal; Vergil's Yamato is able to cut anything, thus giving the theme of [[Unstoppable Force Meets Immovable Object]]. Also, Wolverine uses savage brawling while Vergil uses refined swordmanship. In gameplay terms, they both have a [[Super Mode]].<br /><br />Hulk and Haggar: Both are big hulking bruisers. There's also their respective quotes to each other in the game itself, emphasizing their rivalry.<br /><br />Dante and Ghost Rider: Both are demon-hunting badasses. While Dante is cocky and loves to crack jokes, Ghost Rider is cold, serious, and intimidating. This is also shown in Dante's vanilla ''MvC3'' ending.<br /><br />Morrigan and Dr. Strange: Strange deals with abominations from other dimensions; Morrigan is just one of them.<br /><br />Strider Hiryu and Spider-Man: In the artwork for the online re-release of ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (Video Game)|MvC2]]'', the two were portrayed as rivals. Both are also agile characters, and red and blue (Spidey's default color) results in purple (Hiryu's default color).<br /><br />Wesker and Phoenix: Both are "gods" -- Wesker just claims that he's one, while Phoenix has the Phoenix Force sealed inside her.<br /><br />Nemesis and X-23: Both wear black leather. The former is an experimental zombie mutant while the latter is an experimental clone mutant, and both are trained to hunt people.<br /><br />Phoenix Wright and Deadpool: Both use speech bubbles as attacks.<br /><br />Hawkeye and Captain American vs Firebrand and an army of Red Arremers<br /><br />Spencer and Iron Man: Both are tech-themed.<br /><br />She-Hulk and Jill: Both are brutally powerful females.<br /><br />Thor and Trish: Both wield lightning and have blonde hair.<br /><br />Amaterasu and Dormammu: Both manipulate reality, are gods, and wield fire.<br /><br />Iron Fist and Chun-Li: Both are well-studied martial artists. Chun-Li is often focused on kicks while Iron Fist is often focused on punches.<br /><br />Rocket Raccoon and Viewtiful Joe: Both are two of the smallest members of the cast and use [[BFG|BFGs]].<br /><br />Zero and M.O.D.O.K: Both are mechanical characters that utilize laser weaponry.<br /><br />Sentinel and Tron: Both are highly brutish in their style, are tech-themed, and have robot assistants.<br /><br />Crimson Viper and Frank West vs Super-Skrull: Both are humans with unorthodox fighting styles against an alien with an unorthodox collection of super-powers<br /><br />Hsien-Ko and Taskmaster: Both are weapon-freaks.<br /><br />Akuma and Storm: The power of Gaia versus the power of the Shin-Goku-Gatsu. Both are also dark-skinned.<br /><br />Chris and Felicia vs Shuma-Gorath: Chris and Felicia deal in a regular basis with supernatural threats, such as Shuma-Gorath.<br /><br />Arthur and Doctor Doom: Arthur mistakes Doom for a knight in the game.<br /><br />Magneto fighting Galactus alone: Both are/were the final bosses of their debut game.
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** Dante, of his own admission.
{{quote| (''after beating Deadpool'') ''"Sometimes you gotta out-crazy the crazies if you wanna beat 'em."''}}
* [[
* [[Crossover Ship]]:
** Iron Man and Morrigan gets paired with many characters, and between themselves.<br /><br />Morrigan has been shipped with [[Iron Man]] (by virtue of [[Iron Man]]'s winquote and the first intro movie of vanilla MvC3) Chris (by way of Chris's [[Take My Hand]] moment in the first intro movie and the final picture in the fourth intro movie) Deadpool (by way of a hilarious scene in the first intro movie) Dante (which ''predates'' this game by a margin of a few years) Shuma-Gorath, (she appears to be... fond of Shuma's tentacles) and Wolverine. (By way of his ending)<br /><br />Iron Man has been shipped with almost all of the women, especially Morrigan (by virtue of the already mentioned intro movies) C. Viper (by way of his pre-fight quote) and even Tron Bonne! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRyLDZ8VHmo A web animation] takes it to the logical extreme.
** Some fans also have been pairing up Felicia, Amaterasu, Super-Skrull and Hulk in all of the pairing matches.
** Hulk/X-23 and Deadpool/Dante, claiming both pairs look dreamily into each other's eyes. [[May
** And now, thanks to the fourth intro movie, Haggar/Felicia.
** {{spoiler|1=She-Hulk/Spencer}} in Spencer's ending.
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{{quote| (''after defeating Thor'') ''"Tall, Blonde, you're my kinda guy. But do you have to carry that hammer around everywhere?"''}}
** Doctor Strange greets a female character (except Hsien-Ko) by inviting her to join his team of "all-female Defenders". He also throws a rose to female fighters as his taunt. How much have you picked up from Tony, Stephen?
* [[Designated Hero]]: The character select screen is labeled as "'''Hero''' Select" despite the presence of Deadpool, Super-Skrull, Dr. Doom, Dormammu, M.O.D.O.K., Taskmaster, Wesker, and, [[Anti
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]:
** From the most fan polls, the highest ones in the poll tends to be Mega Man X, Gene, Venom (and/or Anti-Venom), and Gambit.
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** Though there's more than a bit of [[All There in the Manual]] too, as there's quite a bit going on, but only in the supplemental materials and [[Word of God]]. Let's see... the two worlds are converging-likely caused by Dormmammu. This leads to the usual "heroes from both worlds waste their time fighting each other." Meanwhile, Wesker and Doom are attempting to use the chaos to their advantage, but the portals between the two worlds are unstable and they decide (due to an idea by the Super Skrull) to attempt to use energy from Galactus' ship. Though they are confident they can do it without the big guy knowing, they are wrong, and the enraged [[Physical God]] then comes to earth to exact his vengeance. Doom's ending suggests he attracted the big guy's attention on purpose; Wesker's ending suggests he was surprised but just rolled with it.
** As seen above, the "Heroes and Heralds" mode in ''Ultimate'' has its fair share of this.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: [[Magnificent Bastard|Albert Wesker]], [[Brainwashed and Crazy|Jill Valentine]], ([[Anti
* [[Fan Dumb]]: There's a large amount of fans of certain dis-confirmed characters [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|who will flame anyone who doesn't agree that the exclusion of the character they wanted makes the cast totally worthless]].
** In particular, many [[Mega Man (Video Game)|Mega Man]] fans will insist that Rocket Raccoon's inclusion in Ulimate is somehow directly at fault for the Blue Bomber's absence, despite the fact that RR is a Marvel character, and therefore has no influence on the Capcom line-up.
* [[Fashion Victim Villain]]: Taskmaster's Carrot Orange outfit from his time in the Frightful Four makes a return.
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'''Deadpool''' (''in a singsong voice''): ''[[Genre Savvy|This is the Hyper combo...]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Wrong Genre Savvy|Anime power up time!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Screw This, I'm Outta Here|Bathroom break!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Amusing Injuries|Ow!]] [[Ow My Body Part|My kidney!]]''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Your Mom|Yo momma]]!''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Blood Knight|Who was I supposed to kill again? Heh, doesn't matter]]!''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Breaking the Fourth Wall|Hey! YEAH, YOU!]] [[What the Hell, Player?|I'm down here busting my ass]] [[Take That|while you sit on yours watching me jump around?!]] How is THAT fair?''<br />
'''Deadpool''' (''[[Gameplay and Story Integration|If Deadpool barely wins the fight]]''): ''You, with the controller! I won DESPITE you. [[This Loser Is You|You suck]]. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|And you smell... REALLY smell.]]'' <br />
'''Deadpool''' (''[[Gameplay and Story Integration|If Deadpool wins via]] [[Curb Stomp Battle]]''): ''[[Shameless Self Promoter|You were recording that, weren't you, player?]] No? Eheheh... WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WEREN'T RECORDING THAT?!''<br />
'''Deadpool''': ''[[Pre
'''Deadpool''' (''up first against any [[Street Fighter]] character''): ''Man, I freaking LOVE ''[[Street Fighter]]''! Autograph your spleen for me?''<br />
'''Deadpool''' (''upon defeating any [[Street Fighter]] character''): ''I get to be on the cover of the next'' [[Street Fighter]] ''for this, right Capcom? RIGHT?''<br />
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** With the announcement of ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'', and being less than half a year since the game was released, [[It Got Worse|things have gotten worse.]] It calmed down a little, when Seth Killian explained that DLC plans were shelved whilst the development team (based in Japan) dealt with the aftermath of the 2011 Tsunami. The reason the game itself is coming out so early is because Capcom already has ''[[Street Fighter X Tekken (Video Game)|Street Fighter X Tekken]]'' due for release in early 2012 and Marvel has several properties tied up in games scheduled for release later that year, so it's a case of do it now or wait several years for it.
** Then, Ryota Niitsuma explained that [[Mega Man X (Video Game)|Mega Man X]] couldn't make it into the top ranking of the character poll... [[Logic Bomb|even though he was number 1 at the top of a fan-made poll's ranking data]]. Naturally, this didn't help. It should be noted, though, that fan polls don't largely affect the developers' decisions.
* [[
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Wesker. In his ending, despite {{spoiler|the completely unforeseen arrival of Galactus}}, he still managed to play the situation to his advantage.
* [[Memetic Badass]]:
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** To a lesser extent, the effect of the X-Factor in ''Ultimate MvC3''. It turns the user into a black silhouette with red outlines and aura. It's a bit unnerving to some.
** Oh guys, you have not seen the Level 3 hyper of Ghost Rider have you? <ref> ''[[Brown Note|It's his Penance Stare.]]'' [[Sarcasm Mode|Have]] [[Nightmare Face|a good]] [[Death Glare|night's]] [[Mind Rape|sleep.]]</ref>
** [[Resident Evil 3|Nemesis]] is making his Fighting Game debut, but is it lessening any of his horrifying nature? ''Hell no''. Tentacles burst forth from nearly every pore of his body, he's one of the tallest characters in the game, and his Level 3 Hyper? Well, [[One
* [[Older Than They Think]]: So, Shuma-Gorath's a Doctor Strange villain from the 1970s, right? Wrong! Turns out Shuma-Gorath was invented by Robert E. Howard for a Kull story, written no later than the 1930s (but not published until 1967).
* [[Popularity Power]]: Aside from the constant [[Internet Backdraft]] and [[Base Breaker]] status the newcomers have caused in the game, newcomers from both Marvel and Capcom were already well established characters in their comics (Marvel) and games (Capcom) with years to whole decades of characterization; but [[Street Fighter IV (Video Game)|C. Viper]] is the one who takes this trope to heart, she has appeared in no more than two games with only 2 years of characterization, no cameos in other games, nothing, and yet she's iconic enough to appear in crossover games already. Mind you that she wasn't even intended to be the icon of ''Street Fighter IV''; Abel was supposed to be the center of it, but the fans welcomed C. Viper as their main and apparently Capcom caught on to this too.
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** The Simple Mode. It is geared towards the newcomers to the game, with the simplified command for specials and hypers. However, because of the nature of the mode itself, specials and hypers are easily spammable in this mode. Particularly annoying when you encounter keepaway characters like Dormammu, Dr. Doom, and Sentinel.
** Team Aerial Combos are ludicrously easy to setup (all it takes is ''one button!'') and impossible to escape from unless you can predict what random direction your opponent is holding his analog stick. Worse, successful combo starter give away free hyper gauges (1 gauge for down + S, half gauge for side + S, no gauge for up + S), meaning a dirty player can just spam launchers and knock you around in the air, just to greet you with a Team (or Delayed) Hyper Combo when you land.
* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]: If you even consider using Simple Mode, prepare to have some of the more elitist players chew you out.
* [[That One Attack]]:
** Sentinel's "Neutralize!" beam and (Hyper) Sentinel Force, which is already reviled by the fans since ''MvC2''.
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** In ''Ultimate'', this has fallen on Wesker. Highly damaging normals with high priority, teleport spamming and shooting in the air, and the ability to do Level 1 X-Factor damage when the shades come off ''(even worse when he activates Level 3 X-Factor,)'' all make fighting him an absolute ''chore''.
** Morrigan is starting to get some of this, especially since her playstyle involves spamming the screen with projectiles.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:
** Fans were preparing to [http://www.mvc3bingo.com/ complain about the same game they've been waiting for a decade]. Complaints went from assist characters taking too much damage, missing "important" characters (despite most of the requests not being important to the Marvel universe since [[The Nineties]] or--in the case of Capcom characters--it not having any released game since [[The Nineties]]), the roster size being smaller than ''MvC2'' (despite half of that game's cast consisting of "clone" characters and those few really cared about), its combo-easiness compared to ''MvC2'' (despite there being several infinite combos), that the game takes little to no skill, to trivial stuff like Deadpool's lines, slight changes in movesets, and the game '''not''' being ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (Video Game)|Marvel vs. Capcom 2]]'' running on MT Framework.
** A minor one from ''Ultimate'', people are complaining about the visual effects of X-Factor (the character becomes a black silhouette with red outline and aura, as well as the highlighted X on the lifebar). Another one is the HUD; people preferred the vanilla HUD because the new one is jumbled (Assist 2 on the top, point character in the middle and the Assist 1 on the bottom of the arrangement).
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