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* Okay. Originally when I first watched this, [[Fridge Logic]] made me wonder why, if Lewis saying "I will never invent you" changed the future to the point where Doris ceased to ever exist, why all of the "Robinson Family future" didn't fall apart as soon as he said he wasn't going to fix the memory scanner. But then, I realised they have, in fact, justified this with the foot-slip you hear in the very first part of the movie, as that shows us that ''the version of time that we're watching'' is the version where Lewis gives up and Wilbur Robinson goes back in time to fix things, assumedly a [[Stable Time Loop]] of sorts -- essentially, Lewis saying "I won't fix this" didn't change the future because that decision -- the decision to give up and not fix the scanner, forcing Wilbur to try and fix things -- is the decision that brought about the future that we see. HOWEVER, if this is so, then Bowler Hat Guy's (and by extension, Doris's) existence is necessary to force Wilbur Robinson back in time to bring about the future that we see, so declaring that he'd never invent Doris should have destroyed Lewis's "Robinson Family Future" as well, by ensuring that Bowler Hat Guy would never initiate the time travel that forces Lewis to try again with his memory scanner. A [[Timey
** WAIT. I'm having second thoughts. If Doris didn't exist, then no one would have been there to mess up his scanner the first time, so the future would, indeed, happen as Lewis had first seen it -- but none of the time travel would've happened! (Meaning he shouldn't remember it, for one thing -- meaning he might create Doris after all -- augh, [[Temporal Paradox]]!)
*** Not to mention that Lewis would have tested teh memory scanner on himself, and probably things wouldn't go like the end of the movie portrayed. Really, I stay with the [[Stable Time Loop]] theory.
** See [[Timey
*** But Future Goob is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. Without someone else first having concieved her, how could he have taken the credit for Doris's creation? Without a prototype to present to Inventco, he has nothing.
**** Both scenarios, though, involve the Robinson Family Future coming about, whether it's because of Doris' interference or not (it's reasonable to assume that Lewis would've let his soon-to-be adopted mother try the machine after he did, and that he might start a relationship with the frog girl even without knowing in advance he'll eventually marry her). In this way it's sort of a greater stable time loop that involves not only the movie but also the original timestream before Bowler Hat Guy and Doris interfered. The only way to break the time loop would be A) Doris and Bowler Hat Guy figure out a way to actually -win- in one of the repetitions of the loop, or B) Doris and Bowler Hat Guy don't steal the time machine but instead attempt to plot revenge without using time travel.
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** Maybe the Dinos managed to start winning after that line of Goob's. But still, dwelling on that one catch though...
** Well, Goob is rather imbalanced. Perhaps he's just an [[Unreliable Narrator]]. Granted the kids got mad at him for falling asleep during a game, but there's no reason to believe they genuinely hated him, especially after the following line, and his non-sequitors when he grows up.
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'''Kid Two:''' Hey Goob, you wanna hang out? Cool binder.
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** He actually says "we've been doing better recently" or something to that effect... thus, they'd improved enough to get into the cup...?
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** Probably should just go with "he's stupid". Really, this troper got the feeling that Wilbur was pretty much that dumb kid who screwed up and made an even bigger mess trying to fix it, completely oblivious to the far easier solutions available. Only, you know, [[Recycled in Space|IN THE FUTURE!]]
** I think it's because it wouldn't have worked anyway. The time-machine exists outside of time. Because it was already taken in the future, going back to prevent it from being taken is impossible, because it no longer exists in just that time. It's now in a different time as well. Or something. Time machines are difficult >.>
* What's with the [[Meanwhile in
** It seems to switch to a past, the signing period, that has the seemingly uncaused(?) Doris in it, as well as a time-transplanted Bowler Hat Guy. Doris brings about the bad future.
* When Lewis first sees the time machine, he says something like:
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** ...Only that wouldn't ever make sense for anyone to say. First, he doesn't know that Wilbur is from his lifetime. Second, if a time machine is invented in ''anyone's'' lifetime, it can travel to yours, making the point moot.
** He's probably just blurting out something, caught up in the awe of the moment, and not choosing his words carefully. He ''is'' twelve, after all.
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